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Ebay frustrations


#1

You know I rarely post anything but this is bothering me. I bid in
good faith and paid for a box of rubber molds on ebay the guy had 10
lots of 100 molds in dutch and 2 seperate. When the auction ended he
got 1.00 per lot and was charging 14.00 shipping I paid immediately
15.00 paypal

I get this message next day do not send money only one box available
okkk I smelled something fishy and told this guy I was greatly
disapointed because I am struggling to do so make something to make
money and waxes I could do in my home. I really miss my studio. his
reply was I am way too serious and he had tons of molds just contact
him and work out payment i.e. use ebay to find a customer list then
trade outside of ebay

I am disgusted He says he has a jewelry store and ok but I have come
to know from Orchid members that all a true jeweler has is his
integrity.

Am I just over reacting? I told him about integrity and that how did
he expect me to trust him and do business with him. I just think it
is a bad bad bad way to deal with people and that this does not put a
good light on his store. If I knew of anyone in his area I would tell
them to avoid his store. So in the long run was his 10 boxes of molds
and cheating 10 bidders worth it for his business? I don;think so.

Teri


#2
Am I just over reacting? 

Nope, you are not over reacting. Report him to Ebay. Send them the
correspondence between the two of you. They will toss him out on his
ear. They are good that way lately. I just did that to someone.
Similar situation. Felt great. :wink:

Lisa, (yes, I am still alive. Not going to Philly, not going to
Baltimore. Relying on commissions until economy picks up some.
Yikes! Oh…goats are fine. They say hi.) Topanga, CA USA

Lisa Bialac-Jehle
Byzantia Jewelry
http://www.byzantia.com


#3
his reply was I am way too serious and he had tons of molds just
contact him and work out payment i.e. use ebay to find a customer
list then trade outside of ebay 

Contact ebay and tell them about this guy. This is entirely against
ebay rules and he should, and will be banned from ebay for doing
this.

Kathy Johnson
Feathered Gems Jewelry
http://www.featheredgems.com
http://www.fgemz.com


#4

Teri,

It has been a long time since I have used eBay to buy or sell but I
do know that they frown upon people running listings and then trying
to sell outside of the listing. Contact eBay and tell them what
happened. They will most likely give this dealer a warning unless
enough people complain and then they will suspend his account.

Greg DeMark
www.natureinspiredjewelry.com


#5

Teri,

Turn this scum bag into eBay and file a claim with Paypal to get your
money back. By dealing with him you can be booted off eBay for
breaking the rules you agreed to as part of your contract with eBay.
But then again eBay and Paypal may do nothing. Many people are
leaving eBay because of the things they don’t deal with like these
scammers. The scam is usually they want more shipping money. Or the
item sells too cheap and they are looking for a way out of the deal.
I had that happen with some lapis beads.

Regards,
Rodney


#6

Ask Ebay how to proceed w/ a grievance if you’re not satisfied.
Start by giving neutral or negative feedback & proceed from there.


#7

Teri, looking at the eBay listing I can’t believe that this person
actually has a jewelry store. Every other word is misspelled, his
grammar is poor, and he obviously doesn’t know how to run an
auction. I also can’t believe that he has 7,000 molds for sale, which
is what would be necessary to complete this auction.

Lee Cornelius
Vegas Jewelers


#8

report him via ebay as a non-performing seller and neg him in your
feedback. He will soon learn that his methods wont get him very far.
Do nothing and he will continue to muck his proposed customers
about.

Nick


#9

Doesn’t ebay have rules against this?

You won the auction… you get the product. I don’t really use ebay
so I don’t know what kind of recourse you’d have. but I’d start with
them.

Amery Carriere Designs
Romantic Jewelry with an Edge
www.amerycarriere.com


#10
Turn this scum bag into eBay and file a claim with Paypal to get
your money back. 

Yes I also have now attemped to contact AOL his ISP he sent me some
attachments a real mature person. Ebay is actually asking for the
emails including headers so they may just do something this time who
knows all I can do is report him and start not reading his e-mails.

So he is reported to Ebay and Paypal though the same company it is
two violations and also AOL

He can get a new ISP but it will shut him up for a bit lol

thanks it just irked me

Teri

Teri, looking at the eBay listing I can't believe that this person
actually has a jewelry store. 

yeah well Lee he sent an attachment saying I am not a jeweler…lol
um ok he lies a lot. I get that now, and now I wonder where he stole
the molds from because well really the question becomes even IF he
has molds. He cannot even spell his profanitites. No jeweler worth
their salt cannot spell profanitites! So when I have appropriate
funds I will buy used molds from ORCHID WANTED lol

Lesson learned.

Teri


#11

Never give negative feedback on anybody…no matter what they do. If
you do they will give extremely negative feedback on you. The kind of
life forms who do these things will screw up the reputations if the
victims dare complain. That’s how it works.

There are good reasons people call it evilbay. As tempting as it is
to look for things you are interested in there it’s really a gamble
to buy from it. Try to find good, decent web sites for each of your
own special interests and avoid the evilbay temptations.


#12

I have a store on Ebay and sell metalsmithing tools, PMC, glass,etc…
If you check my 100% feedback you’ll see I run a very good business.
Did you check this guys feedback? Its people like this that give EBAY
a bad name. Definetly report this guy. If you give me the listing
number I will also report them. They may take it more seriously from
me as a seller. I’d be more than happy to help. Send me a short
explanation of what happened and the item number and I’ll see what I
can do.

Hope I can help,
Linda Reboh
www.YourCosmicCreations.com


#13

I disagree about not giving negative feedback, and I also disagree
with this overall opinion on ebay.

I have been selling and buying on ebay since 2001. Our family has
purchased many pairs of brand new shoes, an apple laptop, an Archos,
many cell phone accessories, and on and on and on…

The caveat to purchasing on ebay is to BE CAREFUL who you purchase
from. Check their feedback. See how long they’ve been selling. Send
them an e-mail and check to see how fast they answer it, if at all.
See if they gouge you on the shipping. Due diligence is the key to
purchasing on ebay.

Also, if you are going to leave negative feedback, be sure you are
just stating the facts. I have left negative feedback in the past,
and I have had negative feedback left for me once. If you have a good
reputation on ebay and someone leaves you negative feedback once in
awhile, it’s not a big deal…it’s just like doing business in a
store, you have good customers and bad customers.

Good luck with your situation - I hope it all works out to your
satisfaction…

Maureen Cole


#14

The comment about repercussions from negative feedback is
unfortunately correct. That said, I sell on eBay (not jewelry!), and
I stand behind what I sell. I also buy on eBay, and with one
exception have been very pleased with what I have bought. BUT - I
read the descriptions carefully, look at the images carefully, and
check out pricing in other places before bidding.

You CAN get very good buys - you just have to be willing to take the
time to be cautious.

Beth Wicker
Three Cats and a Dog Design Studio
http://www.bethwicker.com


http://bethwicker.ganoksin.com/blogs/


#15

I have experience somewhat similar to that. Not with an Ebay vendor,
but with 86 street photo website.

I am shopping for a camcorder now and they advertise canon HG21 for
several hundred dollars bellow the street price. After I placed an
order, I received an email that I have to call to a phone number to
confirm my order. I called and the guy was trying to sell me on
additional accessories, which by the way highly over-priced. So I
told
the guy that all I am interested in is the camcorder and nothing
else. Next day I am receiving email informing me that camcorder is
out of stock. At the same time, on their website they tell you that
they have it in stock. Something tells me that we colonize the Moon
first, before I get that camcorder, but I keep the order open, just
for fun.

If you google “86 street photo reviews” there are hundreds stories
similar to mine. Nevertheless they are still in business.

Leonid Surpin
www.studioarete.com


#16
Never give negative feedback on anybody...no matter what they do.
If you do they will give extremely negative feedback on you. The
kind of life forms who do these things will screw up the
reputations if the victims dare complain. That's how it works. 

Ebay changed the feedback rules a while ago. Sellers can’t leave neg
feedback for buyers anymore…

Kathy Johnson
Feathered Gems Jewelry
http://www.featheredgems.com
http://www.fgemz.com


#17
Never give negative feedback on anybody...no matter what they do.
If you do they will give extremely negative feedback on you. 

No longer true. Ebay has now prohibited sellers from giving ANY
feedback to buyers. In fact, before buyers post feedback, they now
receive a nice little screen telling them (in effect) “say whatever
you want, the seller can’t defend himself”. :frowning:

Dorothy


#18

I have been selling and buying on Ebay since 1995 the seller had
100% positive and i e-mailed to clarify that there were indeed 10
lots of 100 molds so I did everyhting through Ebay messaging and it
is on record. That is why the guy may get a black mark. It does take
several complaints to get someone booted.

I have bought most of my second hand and antique tools from ebay so
I cannot say it has always been bad it is just that recently that I
have noticed a trend toward bad sellers. sign of the times possibly.
Ebay goes through phases and I have not used them to sell since about
2004 when I coined them FeeBay.

In any case you can do all the steps and if someone is lieing well
you just get to go through all the reporting processes. I never risk
a lot of money so that really wasn;t the point. I took offense to him
saying he was a jeweler lol

I am a bit persnickity about that because I am not a jeweler yet for
heavens sake lol I am still a student learnig learning learning.

Teri


#19
Never give negative feedback on anybody...no matter what they do.
If you do they will give extremely negative feedback on you. The
kind of life forms who do these things will screw up the
reputations if the victims dare complain. That's how it works. 

I think Ebay has recently changed its rules about sellers giving
negative feedback to buyers - precisely because people were
intimidated, and afraid to give honest feedback.

I recently gave a seller good feedback, but only 2 out of 5 for
speed of despatch (in the optional detailed feedback section) -
because the item took ages to arrive but was otherwise okay. I was
taken aback to get an email from Ebay asking for details of what was
wrong, whether the item hadn’t arrived and if I wanted to make a
complaint! I didn’t, of course - but it shows Ebay is taking these
feedback issues seriously.

Sally (UK)


#20

Actually, eBay has changed the rules - Sellers can no longer leave
negative feedback for buyers. All they can do is report non-payment
to eBay for them to deal with.

Lee Cornelius
Vegas Jewelers