Startup jewelry repair business advice

I don't want to discourage the folks who advocate caution. Rather,
I will use their cautions as training scenarios to prepare me for
the possibilities. I will go into business, and I will be
successful, and I will be a cautious risk-taker. Please keep up
the great suggestions! 

I have to agree this (picking up/dropping off repairs to retail
customers) is a way risky venture. There is a reason no one does
this, and I note you are not fighting the logic of it, apparently you
just think you’re different. Heck, maybe you are. In addition to all
the scenarios stated, the most obvious way you will earn your new
obit will be bad guys scheduling a pickup at a home, probably through
a woman. “C’mon in, Jewelry Repair Guy!” Train all you want for this
scenario, it’s just plain stacked against you. Cops train and train
for this and still wear kevlar and have a backup right there. You’re
instincts will tell you not to go in that house, but you will anyway.
Add some pepper spray and it’s Bad Guys, 1 - Jewelry Repair Guy, 0.
Maybe I missed how you are drumming up new business, but even if you
don’t advertise the predatory element will eventually hear about you.
It’s what they do, after all.

For the sake of argument, let’s say you are indeed a ninja and won’t
have or can deal successfully with any security issues… someone
mentioned the time you will be in transit. Yikes, but maybe
surmountable, you know your town (if a trade shop picks up ten jobs
at one store, that will be ten trips for you). Also: did you state
you have a ‘day job’ you’d be competing with? If so, be ready to go
full time with your new venture the day after your employer hears
about this. This, to me, is actually the biggest reason not to
proceed with this unless you have reached an accomodation with your
employer.

If you are going to do it, then the two main things the pro’s
(jewelry rep’s, etc.) always try to do are these: (1) be a grey man -
dress, walk, act, invisibly - and (2) have no discernable schedule.
This includes even things like walking back out to your car after a
pick-up. They do all this and still get ID’ed and robbed, right on
the spot. One thing you will have going for you is that you WON’T be
walking into jewelry stores. I’m thinking the only way it might be
viable is to pick up/ drop off in public places, such as where your
customers work at their day jobs: office buildings, etc.

Good luck! If you have what it takes to walk away when it looks
wrong, this could work, at least for a while.

Pete

PS - I normally don’t post as it’s a hassle, but I wish you well
and hope you indeed go into business and be successful! Just maybe
think about tweaking this particular idea a bit…

Hi Folks…

People have fantasies - "I'll rock 'em, I'll sock 'em" Like Mighty
Mouse, like Clint Eastwood.... Yeah, that's what I'll do!!!! Most
likely, what you'll do is hand over the goods and live - in
reality, and statistically. Most of them are professional thieves,
more or less. They won't do anything until there's an opening, and
then it will be over in a flash.. 

John probably has the most astute summary of the situation I’ve
seen…

It’s probably best to talk to your insurance folks, as to what
they’ll require…that way you can recover some of your loss, as well
as keep your life…

The pros set things up, so nothing is on your side…

I may know some karate, but if given a choice, I’m not gonna take on
a 9…

Gary W. Bourbonais
L’Hermite Aromatique
A.J.P. (GIA)

Security is not the issue for me, just plain years of experience,
repairs are problems to begin with, a few redo’s or rush hour
traffic or a customer who needs to ponder whether to have the repair
done and you have to make a second trip…unless you charge for the
pick up and delivery time at $35-$60 per hour and use David Geller’s
suggested repair prices… Please let us know how things go with your
venture, I always like to hear a success story like the one you have
assured yourself you will enjoy.

Richard Hart G.G.
Jewelers Gallery
Denver, Co.

Wow Kelly

I just read your original question and thought “what a good idea”.
Then I read the replies and totally changed my mind. Come to
Australia and do it. No guns here and boy am I glad I live in a
small community. Only two main roads out of here so if I get mugged
or burgled, there’s a good chance the nasty people would get caught.
Nevertheless, business is ticking over nicely and I rarely worry
about my safety (being rather tall is an advantage too maybe).

You didn’t say where your business would be and maybe the
scaremongers are living in big cities where muggings are rife.
Perhaps you will be quite safe where you are.

Someone suggested a small space in someone else’s shop… That
might be a good option… weekend afternoons only or something like
that.

Renate in her lovely new shop in Pt Elliot, South Australia. It has a
spell on it… “only nice people come in here” and it’s working so
far!

There is a reason no one does this, and I note you are not fighting
the logic of it, apparently you just think you're different. Heck,
maybe you are.

I want to stress to all on this thread that this is not paranoia. I,
Pete, notably Daniel and others are only talking about procedure and
best practice. There are many people on Orchid who make or handle
relatively low-value goods - maybe the finished product is pricey,
but the precious value of stones and metals isn’t so high. Not a
thing wrong with that, but when you are handling metals, stones and
maybe watches that can get into 6 figures. it’s more like working in
a bank or driving an armored car. I could go on and on with stories
of people who were hit, but I won’t do that. It is simply reality.
You don’t have to play by the rules, but I’d suggest they are there
for a reason…A friend of mine was out 1/2 million in fine
watches because he forgot that. He was out of the hospital in about a
week, fortunately.

Personally I think this business model is so flawed that it feels
like a thread was created to just get a rise out of everyone
here…but what the heck I’ll put in a couple of cents too in hopes
of trying to help or dissuade.

Putting aside the safety issue which in my opinion is a show
stopper. Richard comes up with a good point. Pick up and delivery is
always a time consumer. You will need to discuss every job, give an
estimate, and maybe wait for an ok to proceed every time.

Sometimes pick up and delivery from retail stores can be a time hog
especially if you have several small accounts vs. a few large
accounts. But at least with a store they would have your basic price
list and an understanding of how to already price their jobs
themselves…most jobs wouldn’t need a discussion. (trade work)

Going door to door you will need to repeat yourself and explain your
prices at every stop…Price for different size clasp/barrel clasp,
spring ring, or claw clasp/ new setting or retip prongs. Just sizing
a finger and writing up a job envelope will take time! Then add
travel time.

There is also the trust factor. You will not get repairs from anyone
unless they trust you. Why should they trust you? You don’t have any
investment that they can see in your business. Customers are not
likely to use a door to door service with anything of value until
they can trust you. They will take the time to go to a store they do
trust or at least think they can trust who has a vested interest in
showing up the next day for work and unlocking the door. So the types
of repairs you will probably get will likely not demand a price that
will even cover the expense of your gasoline.

Next up, pricing jobs. Do you think you can charge the same or more
than your current employer? It takes years for stores to build their
reputations to get foot traffic, loyalty, and trust. Those things
all have value. Will you under cut the local pricing? Are you fast
enough to compete and still earn a living? Are you fast enough to do
trade work and earn a living?

Lastly, I don’t know how long you have been doing jewelry because
you mentioned some things you will be unable to do but…I’ve seen
human nature at work…When an employee is doing a job well, gets
some experience under their belts, and starts to feel confident in
their work (doesn’t matter what the job) they get the sense that they
are under appreciated, deserve more, and know how to do things better
than their boss/manager. It is very important to learn how and why
others do what they do and more importantly understand why they don’t
do other things. Then if you want to change the system and go for it
you have a logical basis for making the changes.

After all these emails, if your business model makes sense to you,
then I wish you all the best in your success.

I have always wanted to do things my way. I never liked selling
myself at wholesale. But I did take the time to learn other’s systems
so I could then set up my own. That’s why I’m self employed.

Mark

but when you are handling metals, stones and maybe watches that can
get into 6 figures. 

All this concern about security issues is entirely valid. But its
time for another reality check here. Every one of us takes this risk
merely by virtue of being in this business. But then so do Seven
Eleven clerks, gas station attendants etc. Heck, in five minutes
someone could walk in here and stick a gun in my face. Its just the
way it is. Shall we close up shop?

The financial risk of this proposed endeavor is NOT will I be
robbed? Its can I make sales? (if you make enough sales you’ll then
have a reason for security) Personally I’m very dubious. You’ll make
a few perhaps. Nothing meaty, nothing worth quitting your day job
for, imho, having been there, and I had the benefit of a loyal
following(most of the clients who actually spent money were my
‘lifers’, people who had known me for some 13 years before I had to
do delivery from the home). The minute you do not have a physical
location people mistrust you(even if they don’t realize it, even if
they don’t intend it), plain and simple. You are obviously not going
to advertise your address. just how many people will call the number
on your postcard and just hand over a high value item to you, when
they do not know you…at all? You could be setting THEM up while
you’re worried about yourself being setup. you haven’t looked at this
from the client’s perspective. Why would they use a risky unknown
element when they can use a storefront repair service… when they
could have somewhere to believe their goods are safe?

Having a location implies some sort of permanence. It implies a
commitment from the vendor. No location, dealing with the public…I
mean, would YOU fork over your engagement ring to a stranger who cold
called you?

The way to make money is not by looking at things from your
perspective of needing to make money. Its by filling a genuine need
in sufficient quantity to pull a reasonable profit. The convenience
of retail pick up/delivery at home or office simply does not outweigh
the inherent mistrust on the part of the public. And rightly so.

So the question of protecting six figure values becomes moot,
because you just won’t make those kinds of repair sales. It has
nothing to do with your integrity, your past accomplishments. It has
everything to do with the mind of your prospective client.

One way or another you need a physical location to do retail repair.
Putting your energies to that end will serve you much better than
pursuing a flawed business model.

As always, ‘you’ is used generically. And sorry if this advice is
not what you want to hear. It makes more sense to design FOR success,
not FROM frustration. And I know career frustration very well, very
well indeed. When you get frustrated you do not see the whole
picture, you see only ridding yourself of that frustration. So you
start from a negative instead of the positive.

Take your pick.

Thank you to all who responded. Certainly a lot of food for thought
here. As an aside, it’s interesting how others project their ideas
onto what they suppose is my frame of mind. I assure you I am not
Mighty Mouse, Rambo or whatever. Just a person who can make plans,
backup plans, and keep a cool head during an emergency.

The two biggest things to change my plans: A) I didn’t want to have
to turn my home into a fortress. It’s my sanctuary, and I want it to
stay that way. B) A commercial location for an affordable amount has
come available right in my town.

I’m sure I’ll have lots more questions in the near future!

Best regards,
Kelley Dragon

Hi Kelley,

Having graduated from the US Army Rotary Wing Aviator Course,
arguably the most physically and mentally challenging course of
instruction the Army offers, you already know that almost all
limitations are self-imposed, and that there is virtually nothing
that can’t be done once a motivated and self-disciplined person makes
up their mind to do it. So I won’t tell you that what you want to do
can’t be done. What I will say is that I tried it, and my Dad tried
it, and we found that at least for us, the cost-benefit ratio is
heavily skewed towards the cost side. I was also an Army Aviator and
paid my dues to Mother Rucker (the pet name for Fort Rucker, the
home of US Army Aviation) as well as the 1st Cavalry and the 501st
Aviation Battalion in Germany. I’ve been where you’ve been and also
where you are wanting to go so I’m speaking to you from our common
experiences.

When I started on the journey you are contemplating, I found that no
one else was doing it. I figured that either A) no one had thought
of it before, B) there was no money in it, or C) if it had been
tried, it probably hadn’t ever been approached with the split-second
decisiveness, cold-as-ice intestinal fortitude, cool-headed
professionalism, microscopic attention-to-detail and the tough as
nails tenacity that a steely eyed, "damn the bullets I’m goin’ in"
AH-1S Cobra Pilot could bring to bear. It turns out that B is the
correct answer, Flight School induced “Above The Best” attitude and
forbearance notwithstanding. It also turns out that retail jewelry
customers don’t know about the quality of training at Mother Rucker
and the extraordinarily high standards you must meet to earn your
wings and squashed bug. They are generally not terribly impressed.
They also don’t consider it a good enough reason to pay retail.

When my Dad retired (the first time), he let the lease on the jewelry
store go and set up a nice shop in his garage. He let everyone on the
mailing list know what he was doing, and figured he would probably
lose some work, but most people knew him well, and would continue to
do business with him. No one called. No one brought him anything to
work on or asked him to make anything, or even asked him to help them
find anything. They only sought him out when there was a warrantee
type issue, they wanted something for free (like an appraisal) or
they wanted to sell something he made (for what they paid, of
course). He asked a good friend that had bought a piece from someone
else why. His friend told him that people kind of felt that he was
just playing around now, and wasn’t serious about it. “I mean it’s
just a hobby now, right?” were his exact words. So much for
retirement.

Think about it like this. You have a nice, expensive and rare car,
say a 1969 Jaguar E-Type and it needs to have the valves adjusted
(again). Someone you don’t know tells you they are really good at
working on Jags, knows them inside and out and he’ll even work on it
in your own driveway. It turns out he has to because he doesn’t have
a shop, he works from home and the back of a pickup truck. You
already know a shop that specializes in collector Jags, restores and
sells them in fact. Who are you going to trust with your pride and
joy? The guy might be fine for fixing a flat or detailing a 1995
Probe, but would you really let him do serious engine work on your
fine V-12 Jag?

As others have already pointed out, you will spend the vast majority
of your time picking up, delivering, returning calls and just plain
hand-holding. I found that it usually consumed about two hours of my
time to turn around a 15 minute job, once all of the non-bench tasks
were completed. It’s not dissimilar from doing all the flight
planning, getting a weather briefing, filing, pre-flighting, untying,
logging, refueling, tying down, post-flighting, debriefing and
completing all the other requirements of unit SOP, the dash 10 and
AR-95 just to log a ten minute flight. And you have to do it
individually for almost every single job. How many hours a year
would you have to spend performing pre- and postflight duties to get
your minimum 124 hours flight time if you do it all in 0.2hr
increments? Customer service can be a real time burner when the
customer comes to you, but it’s a lot more so when you have to go to
them. You will be surprised how much hand-holding and salesmanship
can be required just to size a $50 10K ring when you set the
precedent of picking up and delivering to their home or workplace.
Again, I speak from experience.

Another aspect is that the vast majority of the clients you do get
will overlook the perceived lack of professionalism only if you price
your work really cheap. I have also found that the people motivated
mainly by low price are also the ones most likely to give you trouble
about other things. Their jewelry is almost always cheap too, and you
know how much more work (and fun!) it can be to repair cheap jewelry.
People will expect you to be cheap, less than half of a jewelry
store’s prices, because they will perceive that you have no overhead,
and you are doing it because it’s fun. Just because it’s not the
whole truth doesn’t mean people won’t expect it.

My experience is that picking up some trade work and working that
side of the business is much more profitable, much easier to market
and much more time-management friendly, not to mention much less
risky. Low end trade work is always pretty easy to find (pawn shops
can be a surprisingly lucrative place to start), and more often than
not will lead to better and better (read that more profitable) work
from your clients in the trade if you do it right. Mixing retail and
trade work is also a possibility, but I think you will find yourself
dumping one or the other pretty quickly once the work starts coming
in and you see which is more profitable. You might have a hard time
convincing trade accounts that you are a professional and have a
secure operation when working out of your home, I did, but not
nearly as hard a time as convincing retail clients. I never really
could pull that off.

Oh, and all of the talk on this thread about security? Pay attention
to that as well. It is not a small or insignificant threat. There are
people out there with absolutely no other reason for being than to
take jewelry people down. Marketing without telling anyone where you
are? How exactly can that work? Never figured that one out either.

All that being said, the best time of my life was when I was doing
high-end custom trade work out of my house. The only two problems
were that my income was limited because it was almost entirely labor
(sales is where the real money’s at, no matter how good you get at
the bench) and you can’t go home from work when you work at home - a
lot bigger problem than I ever would have thought. The commute was
pretty easy though, I got to where I could do it in my sleep -
literally!

The very best of luck to you, Kelley, whatever course you plot.
Sorry for such a long rant. Keep your tail rotor out of the trees (or
your saddlebags off the pavement, whichever applies) and Drive On
Sir, Drive On!

Knight 2-5 BAMBI for bingo and bullets on tac-2 out.

(Translated for non-aviators: This is Dave, Bring All My Birds Back
In for fuel and ammunition [or more likely I’m heading to the club
for a beer], changing frequency on the VHF radio, talk to you later)

Having a location implies some sort of permanence. It implies a
commitment from the vendor. No location, dealing with the
public...I mean, would YOU fork over your engagement ring to a
stranger who cold called you? 

A very long, long time ago, I did craft shows. When I opened my
store, in the first three months, I developed more regular customers
and sold more expensive pieces than I had in the five years of doing
craft shows. Neil is 100% on the money about this. Stores imply
permanence, safety and trust.

Daniel R. Spirer, G.G.
Daniel R. Spirer Jewelers, LLC

The part I see of this venture that seems to be the biggest hurdle of
all would be overcoming the ‘trust factor’(or lack of). You’ll really
need some heavy-duty good recommendations to keep this sort of
scenario active. Traveling from office to office doesnt exactly come
across as someone with a solid reputation. I realize that your
current friends and family probably trust you implicitly, but those
who dont know you really dont have reason to hand you their valuable
goods for you to carry away to an unknown location, only with a
promise that you’ll return. Afterall, this is a ‘trust business’ more
than anything else.

And another problem I see is, as an employer/boss I dont allow people
to come into my place of business and monopolize my paid employee’s
time for their own benefit. I get alot of traveling salemen with
magazines, fake colognes, novelty items, etc, wanting to attract my
employees time, which I have already bought and paid for, and I run
them out of my place every single time they come in. They often
arrive 5-6 in a car, climb out of a car in the parking lot like a
bunch of clowns with suitcases and shoulder bags, and span out across
all the businesses in my plaza. If these traveling junk dealers want
to sell their product/ services at my address, they need to pay rent
to me before they are allowed to present their pitch(aint gonna
happen). I pay rent for this spot, not them. Every business in the
plaza runs them out except one right next door to me. These guys
think they have ‘captive audiences’ when they ‘trap’ us in our
stores.

Also in order to survive in this venture, you’ll need to continually
call on new locations constantly. Theres no way the same locations
over and over will ever be able to support any regular level of work
on a consistent basis. It’ll take some darn good sales ability to
pull this one off with any degree of success that would be
financially beneficial to you.

Ed

The financial risk of this proposed endeavor is NOT will I be
robbed? Its can I make sales? 

I think Kelley personally and her idea have been pounded on enough,
but the discussion of these things in general is useful for all, too.

It is the nature of forums that things are sound-bites. Any
discussion of security might sound like paranoid scare-mongering, but
the real point is that it needs to become second nature. Every
Christmas around here the paper says, “Lotta pickpockets and purse
snatchers out there - hold onto things, put the strap over your
shoulder…” etc. That’s all it really = is - be aware, don’t space
out, don’t think it couldn’t happen to you. I= t’s not just robbery

  • the more you are outside, the greater the odds it’s going to fall
    out of the hole in the bottom of the bag or what have you…

Pay attention, is all…

And Neil is right on about anybody’s situation - long ago I heard
about somebody buying a diamond at Harry Winston for $XXX. I though,
“Jeez, I could’ve sold them that for 1/2 the price”, and I
immediately realized that I couldn’t, because they would never walk
in the door. They want HARRY, they want LIGHTS, they want WALNUT
SHOWCASES, maybe a glass of champagne, and certainly handholding and
coddling. And they are more than willing to pay for it. Comfort in a
retail setting, reputation and at least the illusion of
respectability are important intangibles to lots of people. As Neil
said, they’re not going to hand over the family heirlooms to just
anybody…

None of which is to say that anybody can’t make it happen their own
way. It’s true that bucking the trends of tried and true business
models is swimming upstream, though.

If you can set up a home service jewellery repairs business then
your real occupation will be ‘Courier For Valuable Consignments’. You
will need two identities and will have to build up a separate trust
basis for each.

Each requires a such diverse profiles that mixing them will destroy
both. The courier needs to be the action man or woman; the jeweller
need to be the sit-down-man or woman.

Though both need to be security concious I don’t think the public
can visualize the two together…(action vs sit-down I mean)!

Alastair

Having a location implies some sort of permanence. It implies a
commitment from the vendor. No location, dealing with the
public…I mean, would YOU fork over your engagement ring to a
stranger who cold called you?

A very long, long time ago, I did craft shows. When I opened my
store, in the first three months, I developed more regular
customers and sold more expensive pieces than I had in the five
years of doing craft shows. Neil is 100% on the money about this.
Stores imply permanence, safety and trust. " 

Yes, but… this also goes back to WHERE you are. I’m in the rural
South of the US - very people oriented area. Everyone knows
everyone, says hi, helps strangers, knows when you have visitors, are
out of town, your dog got sick…

I don’t have a bricks and mortar store - BUT - people know who I am,
where I live, where my husband works, where his parents worked, who
their parents were… and on and on. And THAT makes the same kind
of difference. We’re here, we’ve been here, we’re going to be
here…

We have one bricks and mortar jewelry store in town (I think the
only one in the county), and I get repairs that folks are not
comfortable taking to that store, because they don’t “know” him. And
they know me. They know I’ll care for their jewelry like it was my
own, fix it right, be honest, and charge fairly. I am NOT saying he
won’t - just that they don’t “know” him the way they know me. Small
Southern towns are all about social connections. This is not the same
as money - small Southern towns differentiate between “new” money and
“old” money. “New” money is tolerated, but not emulated. I married
into “old” money (sort of… more the history of the money than the
actual money, unfortunately ). So I’m “known” - and trusted, and at
the same dinners and parties and charity events… And the bricks
and mortar guy isn’t.

So if they want a charm put on a bracelet they’ll take it to him, if
they have a valuable stone or an heirloom piece it goes to me. Which
is all interesting, as he has years more experience than I do. That
said, they also know I actually make what I sell, and he doesn’t -
and I think that matters when they are thinking about who can do
what.

Very high end repairs go to one of a few bricks and mortar jewelers
in the “big city” an hour away, who both make and repair. And that is
where I refer anything I get in that I’m not comfortable with.

So actually, I do a bit of what Kelley is talking about doing now -
but not as a business model, just as a this is what happened kind of
thing. Folks call me or show up at local craft fairs with things
they want repaired. I now keep repair sheets and a camera with me at
shows just because I get enough repairs/custom orders in that I need
that. As I said, interesting. And NOT going to be applicable to large
metropolitan areas where the dynamics are completely different!

Beth Wicker
Three Cats and a Dog Design Studio

http://www.bethwicker.etsy.com
http://bethwicker.ganoksin.com/blogs/

idea have been pounded on enough 

well, I don’t believe anyone was pounding away at it. Rather, there
were considered, concerned opinions of people who were asked. You
don’t need sycophants when venturing into business. You need
differing points of view. You need someone to point out what oneself
may have overlooked.

I’ve started up more than a couple of times. I wish I had a Dutch
Uncle on my previous go round grab me by the collar and say “What the
freak are you doin, here?” I made a serious blunder because I was so
gung ho to get started that I dismissed my own inhibitions and good
sense. At that point I was already 27 years into my career, just goes
to show I’m as vulnerable to human frailty as the next person. I was
almost exactly in the OP’s essential situation (it took a different
form but still)…nobody knew me so all my skills and accomplishments
and track record meant diddley. You shouldn’t allow wishful thinking
to make your decisions.

It much better to modify, massage, transform, abandon if needed, a
dream before it crashes on the sharp rocks of poor planning.
Granted, its quite possible that I may have injected my own
experience and notions into the original question. But isn’t that
what was asked? Call it tough love. I think we were all trying to
help.

I realize that your current friends and family probably trust you
implicitly, but those who dont know you really dont have reason to
hand you their valuable goods for you to carry away to an unknown
location, 

Again, for myself, this is a more general discussion. We call them
floaters - they are salespeople to others, but to us they are
shopless jewelry people wanting work done, or to buy things. The
only one I know who meansanything works that way because he’s an
estate jewelry dealer who routinely calls on stores… You can make
your line for sale in your basement and go to a show or ship to your
galleries, but that’s not dealing with the public, exactly… All
this brings to mind a really pertinent story…

A “floater” came to me and said that a client had taken off her ring
to put lotion on her hands in a restaurant. She did that and got up
and walked away…the ring fell out of her lap, never to be seen
again. Fortunately it was insured - for $850,0000. A fine 12 carat
radiant with big side stones. I made inquiries, came up with a list,
and talked to my lady about what was out there. I told her she needed
to qualify her customer - since it would cost $1000 in transportation
costs and mean extraordinary measures to view such things, nobody
will do it unless people are quite serious and the money is in hand.
So, a week goes by, then another, then another, then another… A
month and a half later, she calls me all frantic, “She’s found
another ring that she likes…” Well, doh!!! Could that be that
you were so busy examining your navel that you didn’t actually sell
the stone at all? Are you like, some kind of idiot? Change her baby’s
diapers, make her a souffle for lunch, wash her car, give her French
champagne, DO SOMETHING. At least talk to the lady…

Some people are trying to get a leg up, some people are trying to
find a way in - sure, fine, “don’t bite the newbies”. This lady
supposedly was the real thing, but it’s pretty clear why she doesn’t
have a real business in the end… Reliability, vested interest,
integrity, reputation, all that stuff… It gets bigger the bigger
the stakes, but it’s always there in this business… It’s only one
example, but it’s right on the target, too.

Rather, there were considered, concerned opinions of people who
were asked. You don't need sycophants when venturing into business. 

Yes, Neil, all of what you say is true. My business was founded on a
concept that crashed and burned - a product line that turned out to
bethe tail end of a trend. I had to adapt, regroup, move, change
perspective, all of that. My saying that Kelley’s own plan could get
some slack was illustrated quite well today by Beth Wicker’s post.
Though she as much as says that it wasn’t really planned - it just
fell into place that way. There comes a point where the business
philosophy means less than the individual and the individual
circumstances.