Slides from digital images

Is it possible to get slides from digital images? These slides
would be used to enter juried exhibitions. Any help you can give
would be appreciated.

BillyBob
Made By Hand
Leesburg, Florida

You can have slides made from digital images. Most photo
services can do this for you. However, the quality of a slide
made from a digital image will not compare with the quality of a
normal photographic slide, even if you are using a professional
digital camera.

Steven Brixner - Jewelry Designer - San Diego CA USA
mailto:@Steven_Brixner4
http://home.att.net/~brixner

Billy Bob-As a professional photographer, I have been trying to
get quality slides from my digitally retouched in PhotoShop
digital images. So far I have had no luck. At best they look
like bad duplicates and color management can be as big a problem.
If there are any other photogs out there who have had good luck
making slides from digital files, I would really like to hear
where you are getting them done. Larry Sanders

Berry and Homer in Philadelphia will make slides from digital
images. Their number is 1-800-522-0888. There are probably other
high end photo service and printing places in most cities that
will also do this. Remember, the higher resolution file you give
them, the better the quality of the slide. Also, punch the color
a bit in the digital file; there seems to be a bit of washing
out of color in the transition.

Janet Kofoed

Billy: in general, NO. Not of the quality needed for juried
exhibitions or print. But on the other hand it depends on what
you start with. In order to get a QUALITY slide from a digital
image you’ll need an image thats probably around 75-100 megabytes
to satisfy the needs of a film recorder. For clarity on this look
in your yellow pages and see if there is a professional film lab
in your town. The average digital camera these days can’t come
anywhere near to capturing enough need for a quality
slide. You want slides, shoot slides…Dave

BillyBob,

the usual resolution from digital pictures (even high resolution
ones) is a lot lower than paper photos and a lot lower than
slides. One piece of advice that a former jury member gave me
was to remember that when slides are put up for juries they are
enlarged to the size of monuments on a wall. So any problem in
a slide, whether in the jewelry or the picture taking will be
magnified for all to see. So, if you can’t get the absolute
best quality in your slides it is best not to use them. Since
the slides represent the work you plan to make money on, it is
best that you invest some in getting new slides made.

Larry Seiger

BillyBob,

Is it possible to get slides from digital images? These slides
would be used to enter juried exhibitions. Any help you can give
would be appreciated.

Unfortunately, the digital age is still in its infancy compared
with the era of the camera. If you want vivid high-resolution
images (a must, I would think, for presentation quality slides)
the price for doing it digitally would be sky high. The greater
the resolution, the higher the price, and you’d want the absolute
maximum for slides.

Much better to get slides taken directly. If you also want to
digitize them, there are many options to choose from, like
slide-scanners or having the photo service just scan them as they
process them, as I do.

Loren

If you think about the fact that 35mm film was made to be
projected on a movie screen, and slides are made from 35mm film,
you might get an idea of the limitations of currently affordable
digital cameras. It is still cheaper to buy a 35mm camera, shoot
high quality slide film, and get the results that you need
(Charles Lewton Brain’s book and video can help) than to try to
make a projection quality slide from a digital image. If the
screen is 8 feet across, a pixel will be about 1/10 of an
inch… Film grain is much finer. Give it a few more years, and
digital images will probably be widely accepted.

Rick Hamilton

Richard D. Hamilton
A goldsmith on Martha’s Vineyard
Fabricated 14k, 18k, 22k, and platinum Jewelry
wax carving, modelmaking, jewelry photography,
CAD/CAM…
http://www.rick-hamilton.com

Try Seattle Filmworks at 1-800-frilmworks . They develop all my
film and I get slides,prints, and cd rom all from the same roll.
They may be able to print from existing digital. They also keep
an archive (digital) for ordering reprints.( Usual disclaimer
goes here) not to mention they also send a free roll of film
back with each order . Frank

Hi Bob,

With digital camera, all you have to do is bring your cartridge
to be loaded into a computer and then your images become
electronic files. For some of my graphic design projects I have
to do slides from electronic files or to convert slides into
electronic format (that is to put them on CD). In both cases the
service is available here in Montreal The place I use is Sygraf

  • if you want check their web site for services and prices:
    www.sygraf.com. I would suggest you search for places in your
    area used by professional graphic designers. If you don’t have
    such a friends check places which do slide scanning, pre press
    preparation and printing. I hope that helps.

Lydia

Maybe it’s time for a shift of paradigm.

Maybe what’s needed is to convince juried shows to accept digital
images instead of or as well as slides. (I’ll bet that sentence just
caused great gnashing of teeth amongst our lingual purists.)

Projection of digital images is a simple thing nowadays and use of a
computer to compare or judge among images would seem a lot simpler
than using slides.

How are these standards set? How can they be influenced?

Chunk Kiesling

   If you want vivid high-resolution images (a must, I would think,
for presentation quality slides) the price for doing it digitally
would be sky high. The greater the resolution, the higher the price,
and you'd want the absolute maximum for slides. 

That’s not actually true. The cost is the same no matter what the
resolution. The limiting factor is image size and portablilty. If
you take the file in on a floppy you’re limited to what it can hold.
If you take it in on a zip, for instance, you have a lot more room
for high resolution.

Janet Kofoed

Don’t know about digital cameras, but I’ve had photoshop files made
into slides and can’t tell them from regular slides when they’re
projected. They were 9-15 meg files. I just called 2 photolabs here
in Seattle and they recommended 10 megs. One shop mentioned that 5
megabytes would be the low end for a decent slide. -Dana Carlson

It seems that a CD would be the optimal media for this application.
CD-burners are relatively inexpensive, the blanks are cheap relative
to the storage capacity (<$5), they’re extremely portable, and
CD-players are significantly more common than Zip-drives. I archive
all of my personal images (most high-resolution) on CDs.

Shawn

I had done research on the possibility of making slides from images
that were stored on a 3 1/2 floppy disk and filmworks.com /gave me the
following companies…

  1. Fogle Color ImagingLab
    1012B Pine Log Road
    Aiken, SC 29803
    (803 642-1133 or (706) 724-7100
    http://color-imaging.com

  2. Renaissance Imaging
    5763 Salisbury Lane
    San Luis Obispo, CA 93401
    http://www.photoguide.com/default3.htm

  3. Phoenix Color Systems
    4006 S 23rd Street
    Phoenix, Arizona 85040-1485
    (602) 268-2195
    http://www.phxcolor.com

Hope this help @Lynne_Lukert

If it goes on like now with digital camera prices and quality, the
problem will be solved in less than 5 years from now. Just yesterday I
saw the Leica professional digital camera with over 20 (23?) megapixel
resolution at work. A ring with 40ct aqua was photographed and 10x15"
picture printed from it. I doubt if analog process could compete in
color quality, maybe in resolution, but never in simplicity of the
process itself. Well, it does cost a little and the camera, although
itself of a large Polaroid size, with all paraphernalia, including a
Mac and 19" display, takes one room to operate… a studio.
Eddie from Latvia.

Well, all I can say is, if juries can be talked into accepting
digital images, so much the better for me, as I would only submit film
for jurying purposes.

As many previous postings have confirmed, while digital is ok for
online and maybe for low quality print, it just doesn’t do justice to
really detailed work.

When I had my most recent set of jury slides done (by Hap Sakwa, who
I found through this list, THANK YOU!), I had a CD made from the
slides, after I received them and picked out my faves. The lab did me
a Kodak disc with several resolutions, for posting mid-res jpegs and
possibly for print. The jpegs look fine online, but I wouldn’t risk my
jury results on them. This is absolutely no reflection on Hap, whose
work (on film) has represented me very well indeed in recent jurying.

Amy R. Karash
Executive Producer, Corporate Compliance Programs
Lockheed Martin Corporation
@amy.r.karash