Silver costs in teaching

The price of silver is always increasing. I made a judgement call by
splitting the total costs of silver, into two stone setting classes.

I was told that I have to stay well in my silver-buying budget. As I
am teaching two setting classes in the same day, I’m going to divide
up some of the patterns and split the total fees into two classes.

Therefore each class will each absorb the total silver costs. I hate
to put a damper in the budget in buying silver.

One of my teaching is to have my “advanced setting” class learn how
to ‘make’ claws out of a plain 3 mm. wire/post!

…Gerry!

The price of silver is always increasing. I made a judgement call
by splitting the total costs of silver, into two stone setting
classes. I was told that I have to stay well in my silver-buying
budget. As I am teaching two setting classes in the same day, I'm
going to divide up some of the patterns and split the total fees
into two classes. Therefore each class will each absorb the total
silver costs. I hate to put a damper in the budget in buying
silver

I only work with sterling silver, re the price of silver, a ounce is
give or take 35 us $ silver used for stone setting is what? 3 or 10
gram having classes were this cost, us$ 3 to $12, amounts to silver
buying budgets absorbing the total silver cost? I am inclined to say
give me a break, if you can not invest a few bucks in your education,
why bother? Beside this if you don’t get it right, you melt it and
start again! Almost every two weeks I melt my scrap silver and
produce fresh sheet or wire again, never had a problem. I also do not
recognise the problem with becoming brittle, as long you are soften
it often enough. I am always amazed how many readers of Ganoksin
seems to give classes, it most be a very lucrative business, what
makes me wonder even more about silver buying budgets.

Re Leonid Surpin, he is obviously a Puritan, I personally loves his
input and effort he spend on educating us, people who have a problem
with his comments should just skip his ones. Ganoksin would not be
the same without him.

The description from the Hugi-kissi crowd was a great one, after some
signed of with peace (being or still are maybe an old hippie at 59)
We will be leaving for China this week, someone from Ganoksin a few
months ago, wanted more about the biggest carved jade
piece made, I have misplaced that request, can the person send me an
email offline with what for or maybe pictures the wanted
to have? I will be back half November but can probably let you know
the requested info before that time

Peter
Spain

Peter

Every serious class I teach, the community college requires that the
students learn setting on silver rings. The school pays for this
ongoing method of learning. The students take home their own setting
creations, it builds up their confidence. But the school has a silver
buying budget.

We do not have the silver returned, nor is the silver scrapped for
futures classes!!!

This silver is paid through their tuition fees. It is sort of a
‘gift’ to them, to see how well they have done in the class. Each
class I teach has a new set of rings!

…Gerry!

Thanks for your explanation, still believe that 35$ is not really a
amount of money what should be an issue if students are motivated the
should be prepared to invest this on top of their tuition fees,
assuming that 30 grams should create a few rings, when it is just
social work I can understand your point, but that has nothing to do
with professional stone setting or bench work, but maybe more about
charity work

Kind regards

Peter
Spain

my present class in the college brochure says $470 + $30.00 for
supplies which is silly because i’ve had to purchase about $100.00
worth of silver from a supply list or syllabus along with extras
earring findings posts i got some things i needed as well so at
metalliferous i spent about $58.00 at myron toback $43.40 online at
gem sites i spent $41.00 Onyx 22mmX18mm and three 14mm ovals. then
another $22.00 on ebay for all in all every class i’ve
been to is different. while Caroline Glenmann at Liloveve supplies
silver, she has a supply list and if you can’t get all the supplies
she gives her supplies to use. Like you Gerry she supplies the
gemstones and rings. At the 92nd Street YMCA when Guest instructor
Michael Good anti-clastic raising Guru extrordinare came to NYC we
had to buy bronze but get this he bought each student a beautiful
$600.00 kit with hammers and stakes we used but did not have to buy
unless we wanted to. I wish i could i’m sure he made a few sales. Mr.
Good is with Mr. Bill Fretz so the quality of the stakes and vise
holders and hammers is the best of the best. i tell you the truth i
will be going to Tevel at All Craft for Cynthia Eids stakes i love
her delrin and stuff making tubing with the smallest of the curved
stake is sooooo cool. Michael Good taught us how to make a hollow
bracelet in his class at the Y if GERRY or MR, BRAIN OR MR. MEEVIS OR
GOGSWELL OR ANYONE ever has a class New York you better act like you
know what time it is and make it there period or your going to miss
learning. As soon as Gerry tells me he’s on i’m there!!!