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Scratches on Rolling Mill


#1

Hello,

Just wondering if anyone has a solution. I scratched a roller on my
rolling mill, not too much that it affects the result of rolling a
piece of silver, but shows on the surface of the roller. Is there
any way of getting ridof the scratches? They are not very deep, it
looks like it was made by a piece of extra fine sandpaper.

Thank you!
M. Kim


#2

Hi Myjung:

To do it ‘right’, you have to take the mill apart, pull the rollers
and send them out to a machine shop to have them ground. (Generally,
the words you’ll want to say are ‘ground between centers’) It’s a
specific grinding procedure that gives perfect cylinders, and allows
for fine polishes. Tell them you want a 5 or ten micron surface, and
that’ll give them a sense of how finely polished they need to be. The
other critical things are that the finished cylinders be perfectly
concentric to the journal studs (the thinner round sections that fit
in the bronze blocks in the frame of the mill.) and that there be no
taper at all to the finished cylinder. (±.0005" across a 6" length
of roller.) Ideally, it’d be nice if the two rollers were within.001"
of each other in diameter. Not more than.005" difference, anyway.)
Not as critical as concentricity with the journals, and lack of a
taper.

The drawbacks are these: (A) most mill rollers are case hardened.
This means that there’s a ‘skin’ of harder material on the outside,
and a soft metal core. Grind through that skin, and you’re done. So
remove only as much as you have to to get the roll back into shape.
Grind almost all the way through it, and there’s a real chance of
cracking the hard shell if you roll something that concentrates
force in one spot. The problem is that unless you made your own
rollers, you have no way of knowing how deep the case hardening goes.
Thus, a certain amount of paranoia is in order. (I did make my own
rollers for a mill in grad school. Long story, and probably not worth
the effort, but it was enlightening.) (FYI, I cased mine.050" deep.
Or rather, I sent it out to a heat-treater, and they cased it.050"
deep. Professionally, with certification of depth and hardness. For
this sort of thing, the only way to fly.) From what they said,.050"
was pretty deep for a case hardening. I’d figure most mills would be
on the order of.025" or.030" deep, and you don’t know how much got
ground off in initial production…) (B) this will be expensive. On
the order of $100+. (I think I paid $150 the last time I had the
school’s done, but that was for 2 sets, and the guy was a friend.
About 6 years ago.) © it will take time, and make a mess.

If you’re good with this, and the scratch is really bugging you that
much, look in the yellow pages under ‘machine shops’ and ask them if
they do precision center grinding.

Otherwise, I’d just scrub the whole roller gently with a
scotchbright pad until the whole surface of the roller is uniform.
The scotchbright won’t take away enough material to knock the rollers
out of true. It’ll just unify the scratches. But even that probably
won’t be any finer than the scratches you have now.

Translation: If it’s not showing up in the finished metal, don’t
worry about it. Just try to keep it from getting any worse. (figure
out what you did to cause the scratches, then don’t do it again.)

Regards,
Brian Meek.


#3

Hi Kim,

The rollers on your roller are made from very hard steel. The best
solution is to take it to a machine shop that can skim the surface of
the roller to remove the scratch.

If you try to do it by hand it may create an uneven surface.

Richard UK
www.richard-whitehouse.co.uk