How much different is Ayers Stone from say . . . a glass
brush??? I've heard (never used) glass brushes are also good
at taking scratches out.
G’day: Scotch stones do not produce the same effect that glass
brushes do; they tend to be better at removing scratches if they
are a little deep, but I really prefer 400 - 600 wet-and-dry
papers. They are cheaper and easier to get. See my (recent)
previous mails in Orchid archives on the subject. Cheers,
I have an actual Scotch Stone, my local jewelry supply place has
a few odds and ends from 20 years ago and he had ONE. They are
rectangular pencil length grey stone. You grind them to whatever
point you need to get into tight spots and use water with them.
They seem to be somewhat softish as when using with water they
turn the water into a milky greyish solution as you work. The top
end of the thing has a red label withs idenitification. I think
they may have come in different grits but not sure. I would be
willing to sell mine for a large sum of money if anyone wants it,
Nah , maybe I’ll keep it Dave
Talked to Eleanor Moty who introduced me to the Scotch
stones. She said that ALLCRAFT was selling them for $18
at the SNAG conference. She also told me that she was in
England this summer and purchased a bunch of them for her
classes at a store called Sutters." The stone were not
cheap--almost $10.00 for the 1" x 3" x 3/8" but that is
still better than Allcraft charging $18.00 for the 1/4"
sq. by 6". -Eleanor..... So guys they are available --
How much are you willing to do to get some. Good luck.. >>
If we don’t have to pay $18.00 for a small amount, and would be
able to get more for a lesser price, I’d submit my USPS address
and send a check to cover the costs!!! $10.00 would sound
reasonable!!! (I’ve been taken before, an Instructor of mine
charged us $25.00 /per for some Museum WAX which we never got!!!)
G’day, I just realised that I sent the following as a private
mail, a day or two ago, and was under the impression that I had
sent to the forum. One gets a bit confused at times, and
forgets the injuction to; “Engage brain before hitting send
button”. Sorry. Well, Scotch Stones: I’ve had a couple for
years. They are a rather soft grey stone with a kind of blotchy
appearance having tiny grains of a darker grey embedded in the
light grey; mine are about 4" long and about 3/8 square, but they
used to be available in other shapes and sizes. I don’t know
what the real name of the stone is, and I can only guess that it
is a consolidated siltstone. It came from a small quarry in
Scotland, owned and operated by a family business, and is also
called, “Tam O’ Shanter Stone” and also, “Water of Ayre” stone.
Unfortunately the building where the stone was cut and packed was
burnt down some years ago, and the people felt they were too old
to start again. Since it is so specialised, and because another
use for it was in lithography which no longer needs it, nobody
wanted to buy the quarry and goodwill. So no more stone.
However, I have to admit I bought it years ago because two or
three of my books recommended it, but seldom use it now. I find
that #340#600 wet-and-dry papers work just as well, especially
if put on an ice-block stick with rubber cement or double sided
Sellotape, first used with a little water (spit?) then the finer
grades used dry to finish. For harder to get at places on my
work I use the papers wound around a bamboo shish-kebab stick.
The old jewellers used it because the modern papers hadn’t been
invented. It is nothing like Arkansas stones, being far softer;
you can scrape it with a fingernail. Cheers, So there you are, my
sum total of knowledge on Scotch Stone. –
How much different is Ayers Stone from say . . . a glass
brush??? I've heard (never used) glass brushes are also good
at taking scratches out.
G'day: Scotch stones do not produce the same effect that
glass brushes do; they tend to be better at removing scratches
if they are a little deep, but I really prefer 400 - 600
wet-and-dry papers. They are cheaper and easier to get. See my
(recent) previous mails in Orchid archives on the subject.
Cheers,
Thanks for the info, i just read it for the second time (and
even have a hard copy!!!) Thanks again . …
No. A water of Ayre stone leaves a completely different kind of
finish. They are much more abrasive than glass brushes, but
leave a very matt surface. Richard W UK
Thank for the info about availability of Scotch stones. I will
try Sutters. The shop might be called Suters. By the way, the
official name for “Scotch stones” is Tam O’Shanter stone. Richard
W UK
We have just been selected as the only authorized dealer for the
new synthetic Scotch Stones. We have just had a shipment of 2000
kilos of mostly clean and rectilinear Scotch Stones in various
sizes at 100 gms for $200 , 200 gms for $600, kilos at $10000.
Or 1 kilo, 50% clean stones for $15000. Prices will not be at
this level long, so order immediately. These orders are without
return privileges, with return privileges, add 30%. We look for
ward to hearing from you.
Scotch Stones do things to gold and silver which cannot be
accomplished in any other way, the energy fields they set up are
fantastic!!! Do not miss this opportunity!
We have just had a shipment of 2000 kilos of mostly clean
and rectilinear Scotch Stones in various sizes at 100 gms for
$200 , 200 gms for $600, kilos at $10000. Or 1 kilo, 50% clean
stones for $15000. Prices will not be at this level long, so
order immediately.
What’s with all the concern about Scotch Stones? You can’t get
’em. You don’t need 'em. It’s antiquated technology. There are
better products to do the job. Who wants to finish up their
jewelry under running water anyway? Your fingers will get
wrinkled. Forget 'em.
We have just had a shipment of 2000 kilos of mostly clean
and rectilinear Scotch Stones in various sizes at 100 gms for
$200 , 200 gms for $600, kilos at $10000. Or 1 kilo, 50% clean
stones for $15000. Prices will not be at this level long, so
order immediately.
Are they facet quality or cab quality stones...?
Can I buy just one? Can I stir my coffee with them and improve
the taste?
<>We have just had a shipment of 2000 kilos of mostly clean
and rectilinear Scotch Stones in various sizes at 100 gms for
$200 , 200 gms for $600, kilos at $10000. Or 1 kilo, 50% clean
stones for $15000. Prices will not be at this level long, so
order immediately. <> Are they facet quality or cab quality
stones…? Can I buy just one? Can I stir my coffee with them
and improve the taste? Are they single or double malt? And will
they remove stains from neckties? inquiring minds want to know…
In a message dated 97-08-20 09:26:15 EDT, you write:
We have just had a shipment of 2000 kilos of mostly clean
and rectilinear Scotch Stones in various sizes at 100 gms for
$200 , 200 gms for $600, kilos at $10000. Or 1 kilo, 50% clean
stones for $15000. Prices will not be at this level long, so
order immediately.
We have just had a shipment of 2000 kilos of mostly
clean and rectilinear Scotch Stones in various sizes at 100 gms
for $200 , 200 gms for $600, kilos at $10000. Or 1 kilo, 50%
clean stones for $15000. Prices will not be at this level long,
so order immediately. Are they facet uality or cab quality
stones...? Can I buy just one? Can I stir my coffee with them
and improve the taste? Are they single or double malt? And will
they remove stains from neckties? inquiring minds want to
know...
I thought this was late August: not very early April; goes to
show, don’t it?
We have just had a shipment of 2000 kilos of mostly clean
and rectilinear Scotch Stones in various sizes at 100 gms for
$200 , 200 gms for $600, kilos at $10000. Or 1 kilo, 50% clean
stones for $15000. Prices will not be at this level long, so
order immediately.Can I buy just one? Can I stir my coffee with them
and improve the taste? Are they single or double malt? And will
they remove stains from neckties? inquiring minds want to
know...
Hmmmm. I wonder if I can get prenotched heads for these. I think
I’ll call Tripps and torment them Karen
Sorry I did not reply earlier about the synthetic Scotch Stones.
We ave been very occupied with a new batch, which we cooked on a
hotplate between our propane and acetylene tanks. We also had to
take time out to answer questions about the theft of jewler’s
bench Scotch Stones, which is evidently taking place nationwide
here in US. The current theory is that either there is a black
market in the stones, or that they are being sent overseas for
faceting and will be introduced on HSN soon.
Hopefully the thousands of kilos we intend to produce will stop
any chicanery, as they will soon be worth almost nothing. As far
as grading them, there is a great deal of controversy over the
master stones which are kept in Scotland, so any grading can only
be approximate, but I would say 70% are facetable if you are
willing to cut around some included diamond crystals.
The seasons are different in the Eastern Hemissphere,
where you are. It is actually close to April here. Cheers!
It’s the Southern hemisphere really. Here in the South Island of
NZ there’s daffodils in bloom round every little farmlet, heaps
of lambs dancing about, magnolias, rhodedendrons, cold bright
sunny days,and even lovers wandering around in the traditional
happy daze. With a hey nonny nonny and all that stuff; sprinng
is sprunng - and envy will get you nowhere. But: When you’ve got
a little springtime in your heart you can laugh at all the wintry
winds that blow… Cheers, JohnB
Jess4203@aol.com said Sorry I did not reply earlier about the
synthetic Scotch Stones. We ave been very occupied with a new
batch, which we cooked on a hotplate between our propane and
acetylene tanks. snip 70% are facetable snip Please express me
5 keys of your lowest grade (c is highest we could consider - and
if it is at all transparent we must reject it) for the HSN order
of 10,000 “Unique 1/2 carat Highlander Stone10k rings” we must
have finished by Sept 1 for the big Labor Day Made in America Gem
Extravaganza. They will be selling them for $149.95 U.S. so I
can’t pay more than $20 per key - $25 if you pay all shipping and
show cost @ $1 per gram on invoice for my tax records; I have
apprentice gem cutters standing by in India, settings being
fabricated in Bali- but as I shall be designing the setting, and
I’m an American, these rings will be the featured jewelry of the
weekend! Ain’t America grand?
Dave