Sad Fact?

Well, my guess is there might be a few whipper snappers out there who
have that “retro” passion of which you speak…

Probably some old ones as well!!! When we start lumping young people
in the ranks of dispassionate and in search of a comfortable
lifestyle it’s time to check the calibration on your “geezer meter”!
:slight_smile:

Likely we’ll see more wonderful young jewelers up from the cauldron
of hard knocks, hard work, and great publicity!

lori
Argyle, NY

“Gardens in peak summer splendor, finished making jewels for the day,
and heading out for a sunset ride on my spoiled rotten, plump paso
fino horse.”

Having 5 years in the business, and just turned 30, I can provide a
young mans perspective.

You hit the nail on head. There is very little money in this
business. The romance is gone. Jewelry television and the mass
producers are deceiving the public and most jewelers. Very few
people, to include the trade, recognize quality.

I=92d like to consider myself a realist and so I=92m learning lapidary
and metalsmithing so I can help teach my friends overseas. We
already produce a line of antique replica that is equal to or better
than any master platinum or goldsmith in this country. The
difference is we can sell this product at hundreds of dollars less
than anyone in the west can make it. (see our website =96 =93jewelry=94=
=96
=93antique replica=94)

Finding a niche will be the difference in surviving this business.

Thanks,
Kidd

I agree with much that has been written. Many of our public schools
have cut back on art programs. Not enough tax dollars to go around
the schools, I guess. Many people go through life trying to find a
fulfilling job. Now we all get a charge out of creating a piece from
scratch. I also get a lot of satisfaction taking a customer’s
jewelry and resurrecting it to better than new condition. During a
banquet dinner a few years ago, I was talking to a junior high school
principal. He asked me a lot of questions about my job. I told him
most of my work was completed the same day or sometimes a little
longer. He lamented that he never knew if he was accomplishing
anything in his job.

One other reason is the bench jeweler pay scale. If the pay goes up
then it will interest more people. My nephew graduated from college
two years ago making twice what I make. And I make more than the
"average" (according to the JCK annual report). Don’t get me wrong,
I love what I do and I’m not complaining. I love the craft and find
it rewarding in ways that money can’t. Eventually, if more don’t
enter the field, then the pay will go up just because we are scarce.

James S. Cantrell CMBJ

 They had no real plans to speak of but a goodly percentage of
them said that working with their hands was not a part of what
plans they had. 

This baffled me totally. Believe it or not, there is a segment of
society that looks down upon working with one’s hands for a living.
Manual labor, from ditch digging to tailoring to carpentry to
metalsmithing…it’s all the same to some people who have a
tendency to consider intellectual or academic professions , or
‘living by one’s wits’—superior to any kind of physical or manual
work, no matter how skilled. Yet many of these same intellectual
snobs are the best customers of the very people whose occupations
they denigrate. Go figure.

Dee

But I still can't not wonder just how much pressure is put on kids
by the parents. 

You hit the nail on the head.They all want their kids to be doctors
or lawyers or CPA’s or executives…and that’s one reason why so
many older people are in jewelry classes. They’ve done what their
own parents wanted them to do, and now that their kids are grown up
and they themselves are retired, they are learning to do what they
always wanted to do in the first place, before caving in to their
parents’ pressure. Meanwhile, their own children are too busy
meeting the demands of school, job, family responsibilities,etc. to
take time out to study jewelry as an avocation.

Dee

Warren, in my little rural community I call them the watercolor
ladies. The exceptions are retired art teachers who work in clay and
slumped glass but there are too few of them. I teach an adult class
in jewelry and metalsmithing in the state capital and I get a mix
of students. I do not try to teach a class for "preprofessionals"
and enjoy having adults who are willing to pay for knowledge. Some
have been with me for years and those are the ones who wheel their
toolboxes in because they have accumulated so many tools. I also
have students who are there for just one “semester.” These are the
younger folk with less money and time than the others. They may
reappear years latter with their unfinished projects and most
likely, new tools or stones they have picked up along the way.
Almost all, newer or older, hold down full time jobs. I continue to
be amazed at what they can make. I enjoy seeing their evolution both
in design and ease of making.

Marilyn Smith

Judy,

    I admit that I was both relieved that she didn't go the
starving artist route and disappointed for her as well.  It would
be no surprise to me if she got on stage and was successful at it. 
Always interesting to watch your children progress!! 

What could be worse later in life than a lot of regrets about not
following one’s muse. I would encourage your daughter to perform. If
she is good at sales and marketing she can always find something part
time to allow her to persue her dreams. I look forward to seeing her
on stage or screen in a few years. Keep us all posted. Joel

Joel Schwalb
@Joel_Schwalb

    Believe it or not, there is a segment of society that looks
down upon working with one's hands for a living. 

Hmmmm… So then, this would include dentists, surgeons,
opthamologists, architects, magicians, musicians, obstetricians,
Michael Jordan-types and on and on…

Sam, Perhaps SNAG should become SNAM, after all a SNAG is, amongst
other things, an impediment.

Joel

Joel Schwalb
@Joel_Schwalb
www.schwalbstudio.com

    I feel the lack if young people coming into jewelry has to do
with a lack of emphasis on the arts in general starting in public
grade school. 

You’re right, but it’s also very hard to break into the jewelry
industry, and I think many people don’t know how or give up.

I’ve seen jewelry industry employers pass a bad employee around and
around and around, because some people are afraid to hire anyone new
from the outside, and would rather hire person X from who just quit
or was let go from that other establishment, because at least
they’re familiar, or something.

The jobs are few and far between, and often low paying. And the
education and equipment are both expensive investments. And we
wonder why people aren’t showing up in droves?

Don’t get me wrong, I love this industry and I’m happy and proud to
be a part of it.

But outside of sales, how many opportunities are there for a young
person, and how clear is the career path? Yes, I know it’s
possible, but I’m saying to a young person who didn’t grow up within
a jewelry family, how would they know what the various career
options are? And that there’s potential for making enough to
support a family?

Are there any groups doing outreach to high schools?

I for one, wish I had gotten an earlier start, so I could have
started apprenticing in high school, when I didn’t have to pay for
those pesky little things like rent and food.

~Elaine

Elaine Luther
Chicago area, Illinois, USA
Metalsmith, Certified PMC Instructor
Studio 925; established 1992
@E_Luther

Just can’t pass this one up any longer! Out of my last semester of
jewelry students I had three young women (one 14, and two 16) and a
young man 21. The rest was a mixture of young and old ladies and men
from about 30 to 60. One of the 16 yr olds asked me about continuing
in this trade and I explained the options of apprectice vs schooling.
Two weeks later she told me she has been accepted as a part time
apprentice by a local bench jeweler (she is home schooled and so has
the time and can adjust to the schedule). Meanwhile, she will
continue to come to my classes. The young man has already begun
acquiring the equipment for his own shop…not so much to make a lot
of money but so he can practice his new found skills at home, make a
few pieces and work the local shows for awhile until he improves
enough to start doing serious work.

Meanwhile, some of the older people are attending classes because
they are bored while others really want to improve their skills.
Several of them are already making reasonable money from local shows,
etc. and want to get better.

I realize it takes all types, and I have seen some people in class
who certainly didn’t have the right attitude and did not belong
there, but they didn’t last very long either. Nevertheless, there
are some serious people too…the young ones are impressive!

Cheers from Don at The Charles Belle Studio in SOFL where simple
elegance IS fine jewelry! @coralnut2

Hi all, this is my first contribution to Orchid so I am a little
unsure if I am doing this right.

I cut and carve opal full time down-under and am constantly asked to
show people how to carve opal, “just show me a few of your tips so I
can have a go at it myself” is the question most asked. Now I am
supposed to be willing to condense 6yrs of costly trial and error
into 30mins "that’s all they think it will take "

I get a little sad about this attitude as denigrates my work and
others. Most of the people I have tried to show how to carve give up
very easily as soon as they realize it is not as easy as it looks.
But they then have much more respect for what I do.

Not many people are willing to do work for the sheer pleasure of it
(I know most of us do this every day).

I did a weekend course on silver jewellery making and even though I
always had huge respect for my jeweller after doing the course this
respect increased immensely, I think I will stick to carving.

Customers I try to avoid are ones who start by asking "JUST polish
it " They have carved it and JUST want you to polish it, this calls
on all my reserves of tack and diplomacy to basically tell them to
get lost in the nicest possible way.

The word JUST should be removed from the English language. My
jeweller gets it all the time also.

Thanks to Epaul Fischer I found out about Orchid and love reading
all your posts each day, your are all a great bunch of people and so
willing to share, I don’t have much to contribute but feel free ask
anything about opal.

Thanks for your time.
Christine

  BUT, a couple observations: compared to just 20 years ago, IT'S
REALLY HARD TO MAKE A LIVING RIGHT NOW!! That's why kids are
struggling. It's just scary. When we were in our twenties we lived
so much better on nothing, 

Of course you’re right, but I have also observed, and read about in
the paper, that (some) people in their 20’s are reluctant to live
without the comforts of their parent’s home. Cable, cell phones,
high speed internet, student loans, new cars, etc. Expectations are
higher. The minimum to get by is quite a lot, for some people.

I just read an article about this – about boomerang kids moving
back home and the problems it causes for their parents. If I
remember where I read it I’ll post.

~Elaine

Elaine Luther
Chicago area, Illinois, USA
Metalsmith, Certified PMC Instructor
Studio 925; established 1992
@E_Luther

The kids just don't imagine one can learn to do this stuff.  They
think all jewelry just appears in stores from some mysterious
origin 

Oh, I think they know how jewelry is formed and where it comes from,
but they also realise that those making great stuff aren’t making
much money.

My understanding of the term “goldsmith” in the SNAG moniker–
explained to me by one of the founders-- is that "goldsmith"
referred to a craftsman who could do it all (today’s “metalsmith”)–
from blacksmithing to silversmithing to working in gold. (I’m not
sure if “platinumsmith” might not supercede even “goldsmith” as an
indicator of metals proficiency.)

A recurring internal criticism of SNAG is that it somehow tends to
disproportionately represent jewelers. The word “goldsmith” was very
well chosen when you consider that blacksmiths, tinsmiths,
silversmiths and coppersmiths all work with larger forms (as well as
jewelry) including both functional and ornamental/sculptural objects.
So goldsmiths, who have mastered all of these other metals, work with
jewelry AND sculpture.

The use of the term “Goldsmiths”, then, in the SNAG title was more
an attempt at inclusiveness than marketing. But the word has
certainly been a matter of debate within the organization for years.
Regardless of what a word means at its inception, we can’t fully
dismiss the context that it exists in at any given time. (Consider
the word “ilk” which means type or sort but has a decidedly negative
connotation today.) “Goldsmith” may, in fact, have outlived its
appropriateness in the SNAG title. Unless we can somehow restore the
somewhat tarnished word to its former luster. --couldn’t resist…

Take care, Andy Cooperman.

 I have taught them to strive for professions that give them
security (401K's, retirement, medical, vacations, sick time,
workers comp, etc....)  I've taught them to keep the things they
love as a hobby.

As a veteren of the computer biz for 25 years I can testify to the
fact that there is no job or retirement security anymore. I’ve
survived the dot com collapse and the severe downsizings due to the
economy. But I’ve seen many of my colleuges layed off into a
non-existant job market, their 401K and stock option investment
vanish due to corporate greed and corporate bankruptcies and
financial reorganiztions. None of which was their fault; nor did
they have any control these situations. Case in point: Enron,
Worldcom, etc…

During one of the bleakest periods of downsizing I was talking with
a long time friend and colleuge. She and I where discussing what we
were going to do if we got cut and she pointed out to me, “What do
you have to worry about? You are a carpenter, a jeweler, and lastly
a computer professional. For the rest of us, this is all we know. We
will all be scrambling for the few jobs available and having to
uproot our families to move where the work is.”

So I guide my kids to pursue what they love but have a couple of
skills or a degree to fall back on. I would much rather see them
work like a dog at what they love rather than work at a “secure”
career that they hate.

After all it was Robert Louis Stevenson who said: If a man loves the
labour of his trade, apart from any question of success or fame, the
gods have called him.

Just my $.02 worth…

Rick Copeland
Jeweler, Lapidary Artisan, Carpenter, and Student of Life
Colorado Springs, Colorado
http://home.covad.net/~rcopeland/

Elaine:

I think you’ve asked an important question: Are there any outreach
groups going to high schools? Anyone with any presentation
experience could speak at a school about “A Career In…” The
schools are craving people to offer to do this.

I did one a few years ago on life coaching (I’m certified as a life
coach) and the response from the kids was amazing.

Linda
Worn to Perfection
Vintage Jewelry, Vanity Items and Estates
http://www.rubylane.com/shops/worntoperfection

        Believe it or not, there is a segment of society that
looks down upon working with one's hands for a living. 

I think that there is a segment of society that looks down upon
those in “non-traditional” occupations - not necessarily working with
one’s hands. This is a tough business to be in - I don’t expect to
get rich quick - or anything like that. But on the other hand, if I
can make enough to pay the bills and get by and be able to say that I
can do that doing what I ENJOY doing, I consider myself doing well.
I would rather work hard doing something that I’m proud of than
working like a dog for a company to make someone else get rich.

I am about to turn 24. I graduated with a BFA in Design /
Metalsmithing. Here is my 2 cents.

It is really hard to make a living, I live in one of the poorest
states in the country where no one really impulse buys anything. I
came here for cheap rent, good scenery, and a quiet place to focus on
art while my partner goes to college. I ended up having to work full
time to support myself, which has made working on art nearly
impossible. I think the reason people my age want better, higher
paying careers is because we do want to do so much. I know I am not
lazy, I can’t find enough time and money to handle all my passions.
I am torn between wanting to travel, make art, learn more, and just
plain exisiting, but I barely have the money to do one of these
things let alone all of them. I couldn’t even afford a rental house
that had room for a studio until I had been out of college for two
years, imagine what that does to your soldering skill level. I
didn’t want to be a bench jeweler, I do art to channel my emotions
into a positive thing. I felt sweeping and doing repair on cheezy
kriegels jewlery would kill my passion for the medium. I feel some
what shorted by my education. They did teach me a lot of skills, but
not how to market, and we never got time to perfect our craft. So
here I am facing all those family pressures to make more than $7.25
an hour (seriously, it took me 3 months to get a job that paid at
all!) because they paid for my college degree. So far my degree has
been nothing but a novelty at job interviews that just shows people
that I am interesting and unique. I do feel that the abundance of
cheap crap jewlery in the world really slows down my enthusiasm. I
sometimes wish I had been a painter instead of a metalsmith.
Paintings about emotions make sense, a salad serving set and a
non-functional bowl made out of expensive precious metals doesn’t get
accepted as art so readily.

Long, jaded story short…Some days I just want to pack my torch
into storage and become a farmer so I can live a simple life. Some
days I want to take out my nose ring and sell my soul to a nice
paying corporate job that will pay all my medical bills and give me
lots of money. Most days I just try to exist and think about how
nice it would be if I had time to go to the studio and didn’t have to
work my ass off stocking veggies at the COOP just to pay the rent. I
talked to most of the folks from my graduating class and up to a year
after graduating, all but one weren’t working in the field, had no
studios, were really depressed, and didn’t know how to make it. I
went to a school were most of the teachers were on sabatical for the
last 2 years I was there, leaving us in the hands of graduate
teachers. I lay a lot of blame on the proffesors for not preparing
us for the practical part of a metalsmiths life. They just gave us a
print out with some possible jobs on it and that was about it. You
wonder why we are not more envolved in the scene? One doesn’t just
pop out of college and have money to go to confrences, workshops, to
buy tools, metals, gemstones etc. When you are a student, you get
discounts, scholarships, support. When you are out of school, you
loose all that and have to struggle until you hopefully one day make
it. Add to this equation that when one is stressed out they can’t
make art and you have an accurate case study of a “lazy” young person
in america who wants so much more, but just tries to do what they
can.

mildly jaded in NM,
Tracey

All,

I have been following this “sad fact” string and am amazed that some
pretty obvious realities have not surfaced. ( Did I miss something ?
) I am refering, of course, to the global economy and NAFTA.
Jewelers in America are getting less money because jewelers in third
world countries get next to nothing. At one time America was a major
player in jewelry manufacturing. Now we are jewelry importers.
Therefore, because jewelry has been cheapened, it no longer commands
the respect that it had when craftsmanship was esteemed. For the
most part, jewelry has become a commodity and, to some extent, is
getting close to becoming a disposable commodity !

I also concur with those of you who have suggested that our
champagne taste is a victim of beer pockets. Not only have American
workers had to get along on less income but, at the same time they
have been cajoled into believing that life without a cell phone, a
dvd player, electronic games, a digital camera, a Harley Davidson
and so on is not worth living. To some extent this disparity has
been smoothed over by using credit cards but sooner or later we will
have to again witness the erosion of our disposable income as we pay
off giant amounts of interest.

The old cliche’s about starving artists also come into play.
Unfortunately, no matter how good you think you are, your product
has to sell if you are going to eat. You also have to come to grips
about managing your affairs. Like it or not, balancing a checkbook
is one of lifes’ necessities. It may even be that one must get a
grasp of fundamental math !

Any way you look at it, all of us are going to have to take a second
look at our economic prospects because there are things happening
that will challenge us all. One of the biggest problems is the fact
that housing is getting so expensive that fewer and fewer people
will be able to own even a modest home. Our local median priced home
is now at $425,000.00 ! We have had a massive loss of doctors in our
county because they couldn’t afford to live here.

Another big challenge to our financial security is the rapidly
escalating cost of medical care. One serious medical episode can
put you in the “poorhouse”

Another factor that plays into the lives of younger jewelers are the
trustfunders. These are the children of the wealthy who are
attracted to the lifestyle aspect of the jewelry trade. For them
becoming a jeweler is a fun thing to do and a great way to
legitimize their existence. They may not make any money , but they
sure as hell make it difficult for a hard working but impecunious
competitor.

Most of the things I am talking about are applicable to all of us,
but making a living in a so called lifestyle business can be doubly
hard because there are too many people doing the same thing. I am
nearing the end of my career and I would do it all over again if I
had the chance. Owning ones own business is one of the few ways one
can be realtively independent. Being in the jewelry business provides
you with the opportunity of creating with your own hands, bringing
happiness to hundreds of people,involves traveling to exotic places
and surrounding yourself with beauty. The trick is to make enough
money to stay afloat. It is still possible, but you had better damned
well be prepared to burn a lot of midnight oil !

Ron Mills, Mills Gem Co. Los Osos, Ca.