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#1

Hello!

You may remember me as the person who was supposed to move to Dublin
last year. Unfortunately that fell through, but now I’m moving to NZ
(Wellington, to be exact)!

My big question is around whether or not my current regulators will
work over there. They’re basically these:
http://www.ganoksin.com/gnkurl/ep809f

I wasn’t able to find the propane one on Smith’s site, but I believe
it’s this one on Amazon: http://www.ganoksin.com/gnkurl/ep809g

Does anyone know if these are usable over there? I’d prefer to take
them with me, but if they’re not going to work, or cause issues with
shipping, I’ll have to sell them off quick.

Any help would be greatly appreciated! I’ve been searching online,
but I can’t seem to find a clear answer anywhere.

Thank you!
Tara J. Brannigan
kindofstrange.com


#2

Ted asked himself, how do I find this answer ?, Ted answered, Google
for:- welding gas suppliers in Wellington New Zealand.

so Ted did this and within 5 secs had at least 3 suppliers with
email addresses.

so Tara, you do the same, and email them asking what threads they
have on their oxygen propane and acetylene tanks.

Then compare these to your regulators.

Let google be your friend.

As with any technical query, you need to know how to ask the right
question.


#3

Heya Ted!

I’ve been doing just that in addition to contacting Orchid. Thus far
I haven’t heard back from anyone, and as I’m on an extremely limited
time frame for moving with a bunch of things I’m trying to accomplish
all at once, I thought ‘what the heck, I’ll ask if anyone knows for
certain’. With a community this large, it’s always possible that
someone has been in a similar scenario and knows the answer right
off.

Ciao
Tara


#4
I've been doing just that in addition to contacting Orchid. Thus
far I haven't heard back from anyone, and as I'm on an extremely
limited time frame for moving with a bunch of things I'm trying to
accomplish all at once, I thought 'what the heck, I'll ask if
anyone knows for certain'. With a community this large, it's always
possible that someone has been in a similar scenario and knows the
answer right off. 

OK, google for welding equipment suppliers and email them asking for
the cost of the matching regulators to what you have, as well as
hoses, gas tank rental and handpieces, including the threads on this
kit.

then you will know how that compares to what it would cost to ship
all your stuff to NZ. Worth another try, or, try to find a repairing
jeweller say in another town and ask him what the threads are? that
he uses.


#5

Another option I haven’t seen mentioned is to get a set of adapter
fittings.

These would have the thread size fit both the US made fitting on one
end & the NZ fitting on the other end.

I’d check with a firm that sells welding supplies in both the US &
NZ. If none are available a machinist could make a set for you.

Dave


#6

Sigh doesn’t anyone use Google?

  1. BOC (AKA Linde), worldwide is one of the largest suppliers of
    compressed gasses and welding equipment. I goggled BOC welding NZ
    which gave me.

http://www.ganoksin.com/gnkurl/ep809q

  1. I then downloaded their pdf catalog at
    http://www.ganoksin.com/gnkurl/ep809r

On Page 10 they specify: for Acetylene Inlet 5/8 BSP RH Type 10.5 LH
Outlet 5/8-18-unf LH For Oxygen Inlet 5/8 BSP RH Type 20 RH Outlet
5/8-18-unf RH

  1. I can’t be bothered to Google for north America (But you are
    welcome to , never trust someone’s memory) because I know them by
    heart Oxygen is a CGA 540 fitting and Acetylene is a CGA 510 which
    are not the same as BSP.

Now you have 3 alternatives
1- Find an adapter
2- replace your regulators
3- Have a welding supply house replace the input fittings on your
regulator.

I would suggest call BOC at (in NZ) Phone: 011-64-0800-111-333
(Remember 9am eastern time in the US is 1am in NZ :wink: so call after
5PM eastern time to get someone to answer…

Maybe Charles will chime in since the fittings are identical in Oz.

Kay


#7

Hi Kay,

Now you have 3 alternatives 1- Find an adapter 2- replace your
regulators 3- Have a welding supply house replace the input
fittings on your regulator. Maybe Charles will chime in since the
fittings are identical in Oz. 

I use Australian fittings for gas applications, but the best course
of action is to use the fittings native to your country.

I wasn’t sure if BOC was in world wide, but BOC would be the place
to look for gas hoses and regulators. They have specials on occasion,
regulators included. They also sell a very nice leather apron :wink:

I will comment on the 3 alternatives.

1- Find an adapter. That’s a reasonable option, however I would just
change the nuts on the torch, and

2- replace the regulators to the country standards.

3- Have a company replace the fittings on your regulator. Don’t,
it’s cheaper to buy a new regulator than to stuff around with your
regulator. The other week I was looking at a customers regulator
where the safety’s had blown. I learned that regulators have soldered
gas seals “everywhere” in their construction. They are a safety
device, treat them as a safety investment.

Regards Charles


#8

As a matter of interest, the BOC, Air Products and Linde oxy and
acet and propane tank thread sizes in NZ are the same as here in the
UK.

5/8 bsp RTh for Oxy and ditto but LH for the other 2.

What are they in the USA?


#9

Hi Ted,

In North America almost all gas fittings are of a series called CGA
(for Compressed Gas Association, an Industry group).

Here is a link to some of the fittings defined by the CGA
http://www.ganoksin.com/gnkurl/ep80a7

Kay