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Recovery issues, so to speak


#1

One very salient
point was the one where a chappie informed us that we shouldn’t
send rubbish to the refiners or we would get ‘done’

This was that canny fellow Liccini, who advised us all to thank
him for his advice – Mark are you still here? Very good advice
indeed. Basic point was to melt scrap and pour an ingot, and
drill some plugs out of it before sending it to refine, thus
threatening your refiner of choice with the possible of an
alternative assay. Guaranteed to keep 'em honest

eve wallace evew@netone.com


#2

One very salient
point was the one where a chappie informed us that we shouldn’t
send rubbish to the refiners or we would get 'done’
This was that canny fellow Liccini, who advised us all to thank
him for his advice – Mark are you still here? Very good advice
indeed. Basic point was to melt scrap and pour an ingot, and
drill some plugs out of it before sending it to refine, thus
threatening your refiner of choice with the possible of an
alternative assay. Guaranteed to keep 'em honest

eve wallace evew@netone.com

Still kickin’.I have been so busy the last 2 months I have only
read “Subject” in E-mail and open only direct mail to me.But I
followed part of this thread. I had a refinary during the Gold
and Silver “boom” of the 70’s.And that lesson about how to
prepare the Gold for shippment to the refinary cost me over
$20,000 that Handy&Harmen in New York stole.

This brings to mind the problem of the small user.Who may not
have enough scrap to make an ingot.Or believe me,an assay is not
so cheap.And if you try this trick on too small an ingot the
refinary will guess the sham.To this I tell you try Hoover &
Strong Richmond,Va.If George Hoover is still there then you could
send them your “first born” with confidence.He is an honest man.I
am not involved or recieve any compensation for this tip.And if
anyone knows me,they will understand I am reluctant to reccomend
anyone for anything.But not only did I have numerous dealings,but
I tested them dozens of times.As we could assay at my facility.He
is a good an honest man.If you give them gold,you will also be
paid for the Silver and Platinum that is a part of the alloy.Most
refinaries don’t tell you this even exists.

I would add one more bit of If a bad refiner is so
brazen as to steal after your precautions.Rest assured the
average of the 3 asseys is the winner in court.And even there
exists an arbitration commitee in the world of Scrap metals,so it
will never even enter court.

Another thought came to mind,that anyone doing a lot of metal
processing,or after many years of working in the same
location,consider to do your ceiling tiles.You will be shocked
how much comes out.Most larger firms put traps in the sink
drains.This is a secret of success.To use every drop of
everything weither Lapidary or Metalsmithing.Use your
imagination.It’s something we all forget. And that is the essence
of art.Imagination. For the Lapidary,that sweeps the saw scraps
into the rubbish every day I tell you this story.I had a factory
with German Automatic cabachon machines.And we processed hundreds
of kilos of Lapis Lazuli.Coming off the wheels was a sludge.And
since we used Diamond,no contaminants,or grits came off.It was
pure Lapis Dust.Everyone thought I was nuts.I spread it out to
dry and when I had a couple hundred pounds I went to
market.Well.I ended up paying for almost all my original raw
material cost because it seems “Leonardo” used Lapis dust as a
pigment in his great paintings.To the artist’s paint industry who
could never afford the cost of Gem Lapis,or even the expense of
grinding to powder,my lot was quite valuable and desirable.So
attention all.Save every little chip,every little drop of it.If
you have imagination you will figure out what to do with it. Thank
you Eve for remembering I made that post.

                                       Mark Liccini



     LICCINI

Gemstone Rough Dealers since 1970 U.S.MAIL
E-Mail: @Mark_Liccini1 224 7th St.#2B
http://www.LICCINI.com Jersey City,N.J.07302 Voice
Mail/Fax: 201-795-1115


#3

To this I tell you try Hoover &Strong Richmond,Va.If George
Hoover is still there then you could
send them your “first born” with confidence.He is an honest man.I
am not involved or recieve any compensation for this tip

I have to agree- George Hoover and his company are
straightforward to deal with- I always get refining returns that
are accurate. They are also flexible- once I had a project that
needed a large sheet of 18k out of which I had to cut a circular
piece for a collar type necklace- they allowed me to return the
leftover piece and deducted the material at their markup rather
than scrap value. They do however charge for platinum refining.

Rick Hamilton


#4

How do you just ‘melt the scrap’ with ALL the other stuff in the
package?? How do you separate the wheat for the shaft!!!