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rec.crafts.jewelry

                H i g h l i g h t s

Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Techniques

        November 8, 1997 Issue #3

Highlights Editor:
~ Dr. E Aspler <@Service>

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~ Peter Rowe PWRowe@ix.netcom.com

Introducing Highlights
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^From: Peter Rowe PWRowe@ix.netcom.com

Attached are a number of recent messages sent to the usenet
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Peter Rowe
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…IN THIS EDITION…

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“Granulation”
~ unnyboy97@earthlink.net (sunnyboy97)
~ twosunstrd@aol.com (TwoSunsTrd)
~ bethkatz@aol.com (Bethkatz)
~ Geraldine Howard gh69@columbia.edu

“Dremel bits”
~ tonylowe@ihug.co.nz (Tony Lowe)

“Copper Leaf”
~ “Indian Summer” indsummr@fone.net
~ dave@sparrowarts.com (David Falk)

“AGS-CERT”
~ tori@panix.com (Lurking Girl)

“Sterilizing Earrings?”
~ Edwin Ward spward@mail.caps.maine.edu
~ slbailey@bu.edu (Sherry Bailey)
~ PWRowe@ix.netcom.com (Peter W. Rowe)

“Goldplating-Electroplating”
~ coppers@pacifier.com (C M)

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Orchid: rec.crafts.jewelry Highlights Digest

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Granulation
^^^^^^^^^^
From: sunnyboy97@earthlink.net (sunnyboy97)

Hello Can anyone provide more about the name of the
hide gule and how to make it. Thank you sunnyboy97@earthlink.net

From: twosunstrd@aol.com (TwoSunsTrd)

I just got a small container of hide glue. It is liquid, it is
the first time hide glue has come in a liquid and it is
called,Titebond made by Franklin International. Dont know if it
is any good yet but will try it this next week. I got it at a
art supply store. Lloyd LH Butterfield TwoSunsTrd@aol.com

From: bethkatz@aol.com (Bethkatz)

Hi, The name of the glue (not gule) is Hide. This glue is sold in
hardware stores or in fine woodworking supply shops such as
Constantines. (they do mail order and have 800#) It is not
expensive, just hard to find. You might also check in a glue
section of a very well stocked crafts supply but not like
Michaels or Leewards. If you can share a bottle or mooch some from
a friend, it lastsa long long long time. You just use drops when
making the “glue” formula to hold on the granules.

From: Geraldine Howard gh69@columbia.edu

I get my hide glue from the hardware store (sorry, I can’t
remember the manufactor’s name). It comes in a brown bottle.
Not all hardware stores carry it. For granulation, you make a
solution by measuring ten drops of water, 2 drops of glue, and 2
drops of liquid flux.

Dremel bits
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From: tonylowe@ihug.co.nz (Tony Lowe)

I have tried the dremel diamond burrs but found that the cheap
Chinese ones although they have a more limited life prove far
more economical,I can buy about 20 cheap ones for the price of
one dremel and get about half the life from them , well on the
right side of the ledger.

Tony Lowe,
Auckland nz

From: bjoemoen@online.no (Jeanne Rhodes Moen)

Even over here in Norway, I got bits from my dentist, including
some diamond coated bits. As soon as they become the least bit
dull, they cannot be used for teeth, but are still perfectly good
for silver and gold!

Jeanne Rhodes Moen

Copper Leaf
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From: “Indian Summer” indsummr@fone.net

Just picked up the following post from the glass ng:

I was able to order copper leaf from Gold Leaf & Metallic
Powders 74 Trinity Place, Suite 1200, New York, NY 10006. Don’t
have the phone #. The price was $7. per book of 25 sheets.

Mary Jolley
Dancing Frog Jewelry
http://www.jewelmagic.com/

From: dave@sparrowarts.com (David Falk)

That address is…

Daniel Smith
4150 First Avenue South
P.O. Box 84268
Seattle, WA 98124-5568

Phone: 1-800-426-6740
Fax: 1-800-238-4065

They carry gold, silver, aluminum, and copper metallic leaf.
They are a little more expensive than some mail order art supply
companies, but they carry a large selection.

Hope it helps…

AGS-CERT
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From: tori@panix.com (Lurking Girl)

 Can someone fill me in on the AGS certification for diamond
stones? All the literature I find says GIA or other
internationally recognized lab.  GIA is the best.   Ok, but I
want to know the cut, (crown angle / height , pavilion angle /
hight).  The GIA doesn't >mark it on the cert, but AGS does.

According to the Diamond FAQ (there’s a link to it on the
soc.couples.wedding website):

There are some stores that are members of the American Gem
Society (AGS). The jewelers at these stores are required by AGS
to be tested annually and must uphold certain standards. Most
still grade their stones on the GIA scales (AGS does have their
own) and adhere strictly to them. It will usually appear as
though these stores are charging more for their stones (over
mall stores for example), however you are truly getting what you
pay for.

(Don’t ask me, my ring’s tanzanite…)

Sterilizing Earrings?
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From: Edwin Ward spward@mail.caps.maine.edu

A jewelry steam cleaner should be effective in cleaning the
posts. Most of the time we just drop it back into the silver
cleaning solution. Then back in with the steam cleaner for 10 to
15 secs. to clean off the cleaning solution. Check with the
Center for Disease Control for the standards they set. Ed Ward
Wards’s Stone Creations

From: slbailey@bu.edu (Sherry Bailey)

I thought it was illegal to resell returned pierced earrings.
No? (No store I ever bought any would accept returns. I
understand that mail order comapnies might have to, since their
customers can’t see what they are getting beforehand, but maybe
not reselling them is a cost of doing business. I never thought
about it before, but I certainly won’t buy any earrings mail
order now that I understand that it’s not a GIVEN that they
aren’t “never worn”! Not every company may be as concerned as the
one doing the research… ) Sherry

From: PWRowe@ix.netcom.com (Peter W. Rowe)

I thought it was illegal to resell returned pierced earrings.

I don’t know whether it’s illegal or not in the U.S. Unlike
things like underwear or swimsuits, which cannot be returned once
bought from U.S. stores, Earrings and other jewelery are easily
enough cleaned up to new condition. While the thought of a piece
of “pierced” jewelry being used may bother you, you might think a
little of various processes and chemicals possibly used in it’s
manufacture, and their toxins, which are quite successfully
removed before sale to you, as are the fingerprints of
salespeople and jewelers who handled it. A little dirt from a
customer’s hands, on a ring is likely to be just as potentially
dangerous as anything an earring might pick up, yet we think
nothing of trying on a ring from a jewelers case even though I
hasn’t been sterilized since the last person touched it…
That this company (which, judging by the email address, is in
Britain, not the U.S.) is concerned with sterilization procedure
should be, it seems to me, a point in their favor, rather than an
indication to you that you should not buy earrings by mail. And
as has been pointed out, the actual requirments for properly
cleaning those earrings again are very, very simple. Normal,
routine jewelry store cleaning methods (ultrasonic or steam
cleaning) would be quite adaquate to ensure their cleanliness and
subsequent customer safety and hygene. Recall that these same
methods are generally sufficient to prepare a piece for
electroplating, a process that requires the metal to actually be
chemically clean before it will work well, not just sterile…
Peter Rowe

Goldplating-Electroplating
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From: coppers@pacifier.com (C M)

I’m looking for some on electroplating in gold.
Specifically, I’m wondering about the toxicity level of the
cyanide solution used in this process. I’ve been trying with
Gold-Kote™ but find that to be mainly an exercise in futility.
Any will be appreciated.

End of rec.crafts.jewelry Highlights Digest

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