Proper tattoo for a goldsmith

I do know there are some lovely dieties of smithing in japanese art
which is a style lending itself well to beautiful ink. For my own
purposes I cut a silver 2.5x2 Mjollner [Thor’s hammer] out of 18g.
and made a brand for my upper shoulder. I can use the brand as a
pendant as well. I like norse mythos and I like fighting [not bar
brawling, martial stuffs] and the hammer is a clear symbol of both
martial and metal skills. Come Ragnarok the Aser will hopefully see
my arm sticking out of the pile of bodies and take me up for the new
world. Ideally.

The brand worked out rather well, just me and a plate of sushi
celebrating New Years a while back. It doesn’t hurt at all because
you cauterize past the nerves, a papercut hurts worse and my torch
was a perfect heat source. At some point I’ll have ink done to
highlight designs as it’s based on a barrow’s find.

“I find this work oddly menacing because of the way the formal
post-modern iconicity and the disjunctive perturbation of the
painterly biomorphic neo-tribal gestures spatially undermine the
subtle yet distinctive Magrittian semiotic juxtapositioning. I like
it.”

The Patron Saint of Jewelers which is Saint Eligius.

Jerry

I always thought Brigit was the saint or goddess representing metal
workers. And she has a cool cross/swastica type symbol. I have an
antique bridgits cross I wear on occasion. Would be a cool tattoo.
I’ve always wanted a tat, just haven’t decided what and where.

Candy

I wrote to D Huffman off-line in response to his suggestion of a
crossed chasing hammer and jeweler’s saw, but since several others
have also suggested these i thought I’d share my first impression…

I liked the reasoning behind your tattoo suggestion, but
couldn't help noticing that the image that comes to my mind bears
a more- than-passing resemblance to a somewhat squared-off or
stylized rendition of the the old Soviet hammer and sickle.
Somehow i am inclined to think that didn't escape your notice
either, you sly devil. 

As for things being made by nanorobots on Mars, i feel like
we're just about there as far as most folks are concerned. So
many things are made elsewhere, essentially invisibly, that if
you wanted to take yr kids to see how things are made you'd have
to buy a plane ticket to China. I can't help but wonder if
kiddies these days think things just grow on trees, already
blister-packed. I recall years ago when i was teaching a high
school intro-to-  industrial arts class. I had just chucked a
chunk of something in a lathe and turned a little shoulder on it
just to show the darlings a bit of what a lathe does. When i
finished I looked up to see one of the youngsters standing with
jaw dropped in a perfect portrayal of shocked disbelief. What was
the problem? "You mean you can cut metal?!" she blurted out. She
had managed to reach the age of 16 or so, in our world, without
that fact ever having occurred to her. Her shock and disbelief
was as nothing compared to mine. 

Even in the trades practiced where we can see them happen, it
would be a hard call to know which tools will be iconically
recognizable to the world at large in a few years. Carpentry is a
good example, where ordinary hammers and handsaws have almost
become rare exotics in the hands of a few stubborn old geezers -
replaced by nail guns, adhesive goop, and an endless assortment
of electric gadgets. I expect that "where things come from" is
beginning to look in the public's mind like a generic "black box"
with the objects of desire popping out onto a conveyor belt,
whether they be donuts, rubber tires, or golden rings. 

With all that in mind I do like the inclusion of a hammer as the
"smith" in goldsmith comes from “smite” which is what we do with
hammers. But I don’t have any brilliant suggestions.

Marty Hykin in Victoria where it is raining again so maybe I’ll just
stay home and sharpen my hammers today.

its interesting that some goldsmithing folk have mentioned they are
tatoo’d but none involve thier means of goldsmithing livlyhood and i
am wondering why ? as a matter of personal fact, i dont know any
person who is tattoo’d according to what thier applied knowlege is
in any field or trade.

Its always seems to be somthing the wearer percives as symbolic of
thier own inner thoughts for the world to see but you have to ask
and perhaps they will tell you.

perhaps a tattoo of ones job is to close to being symbolic of
slavery or habeas corpus, possesion, etc. thoughts please

goo

The Patron Saint of Jewelers which is Saint Eligius. 

someone else has suggested that st. dunstan is the patron saint of
goldsmiths are there two patron saints for our trade - goo

I’m leaning towards a torch heating a gold ring that is in a clamp
(as if it were being sized)… you could get a lot of colors in that
and even a hand holding the torch. The hammer idea isn’t bad but I
don’t think it would make a nice tattoo unless you’re looking for
grayscale…

Craig

If it hasnt already been suggested… A really antique style Jewellers
bench in a sketch form. Would need to be a fair size to get all the
detail though.

What about a silhouette of a crucible. Like the handheld kind.

Aaron

St Dunstan is the patron saint of goldsmiths in the UK. I do not know
of the other saint mentioned. I base my knowledge on visits to the
London Goldsmith’s Company which has been in the city of London and
responsible for the assay of gold since 1300. They have a beautiful
marble statue of St Dunstan in the foyer of the Goldsmith’s Hall. See
Goldsmiths' Company Assay Office in London | Goldsmiths Hallmarking

James Miller FIPG who is closer to getting his book published.

Hi Marty,

This isn’t a matter of age!

When i finished I looked up to see one of the youngsters standing
with jaw dropped in a perfect portrayal of shocked disbelief. What
was the problem? "You mean you can cut metal?!" she blurted out.
She had managed to reach the age of 16 or so, in our world, without
that fact ever having occurred to her. 

When I took my first metalsmithing class in 1991 at the age of, it
had never occurred to me that you could cut metal by hand with a saw.
Saws were for wood, not something as hard as metal!

If I’d thought about it, I would have expected that cutting metal
demanded some kind of power tool. (Never mind how it was done before
power tools existed – I wouldn’t even have considered that issue!)
It’s a matter of ignorance, not age.

Beth

O.K. I am ready to get hammered for this response! How about giving
the money that you might spend on a tattoo to Orchid, SNAG, a local
art school, or for purchasing a new tool?

Margery Cooper
www.millstudios.org

Its always seems to be somthing the wearer percives as symbolic of
thier own inner thoughts for the world to see but you have to ask
and perhaps they will tell you. 

Yep. Got my first tat this year as a Christmas present from my
family. A Grateful Dead skull and roses. I’m a 50 year old deadhead.
“The music never stopped”

One point on wearing jewelry you make to show your trade. I wear a
massive bracelet set with one 315 ct, 75mm x 50mm Cripple Creek
turquoise cab (rare size for Cripple Creek). I’m a big guy so I can
pull it off. At least I think so. One of the most humorous comments
I get is, “Ummm. Do you make anything smaller?” But people remember
it and it is an attention getter at shows whether I’m selling or
attending. I guess it’s my way of making an impression. So you could
say it’s my egotistical side coming out. Kinda like putting your
picture on your business card. So go ahead, fire away. I deserve it
after the picture on the business card thread that I took exception
to.

Rick Copeland
Silversmith and Lapidary Artisan
Rocky Mountain Wonders
Colorado Springs, Colorado
rockymountainwonders.com

Goo,

Well it isn’t goldsmithing but I am tattooed according to my
interests and applied knowledge as of when I was inked. I have a
butterfly (yep it’s a girly tattoo). But it is in the shape of a
swallowtail butterfly, with the face of a tiger inside. At the time I
was in Virginia (tiger swallow tail is the state insect), studying
entomology and wanting to go on to work with the big cats
(mamologists are relatively common in the world of zoology so I was
taking back door route by becoming an entomologist. Almost every
animal has insect pests =) ). My tattoo fit perfectly what I was
studying and my aspirations at the time. It is, I suppose, symbolic
now that I had it inked on my lower back, as that stage of my life is
behind me now and the only time I see it is when I look back.

I still apply part of the knowledge I gained in grad school. I put
together talks for kids on insects in their back yards once in a
while. I garden for butterflies and bees, and in a year or so will
begin bee keeping as a hobby and am planting fruit trees around our
property (I worked with fruit pests to further Integrated Pest
Management programs). The DNA fingerprinting work I did I can’t
carry on at home, but that is okay. I’m off onto a new career. Maybe
it is time for a new tattoo. Won’t hubby be happy!

Michelle

Hello again,

It is an interesting point that you raise. I too am tattooed (a full
backpiece and a smaller one on my left arm). It never cross my mind
to include a symbol of our trade in my inks althought they are both
highly symbolic of my identity and faith.

Oddly, I tend to consider jewellery and metalwork, as I practice it,
like some sort of martial art. It envolves body and spirit, profound
concentration and awareness, the gestures have to be fluid and
harmonious…(this could be an entire new discussion… ) the way
I work reflect my personnality.

Nevertheless, as an individual I can’t be resumed to a jeweller or
metalsmith. I am much more than that… The trade is more a mean of
expression for my self than my identity itself.

Moreover, I don’t consider myself as a traditional jeweller and
wouldn’t like to be systematically associate with it. (Despite this,
I
really like the idea of belonging to the Orchid community)

In ancient Japan, craftperson had their trade and skills tattooed.
This was useful at that time because there was no schools as we
figure it nowaday, and most of the people couldn’t read. Their
tattoos were their diplomas. Not that long ago, in France,
“Compagnons” (members of a famous guild in the building crafts) had a
solid gold earring as a recognisable mark and some still wear it.

If belonging to a trade, guild or community (of whatever it could
be) is percieved as an advantage, I suppose that showing it through a
symbol or a mark is natural. the counterpart is that showing this
belonging includes a responsability toward this entire community as
one’s behaviour could affect all its members. As our western
societies
tend to lead us to individualism and, in a paradoxical way, urge us
to fit in, the more we have to fit, the more we want to be unique. We
have numerous means to achieve this, through our clothes, hairstyles,
the choice of a car… Plus, most of western people don’t keep the
same job all their lifes. Nowadays we have a lot of “recognizable
mark” for all sorts of belongings but most of them are not permanent
(school rings, uniforms, or simply wearing a suit and tie in a hot
summer, even fashion…), Associating oneself with one’s job through
a permanent body modification becomes tricky and uncomfortable.

Will I be a jeweller for all my life? Who knows? Maybe not… but
I’ll allways be me.

So, to answer your point: no, it has little to do with the
association with slavery. It is more because of its "reductiveness"
that I didn’t show the trade in my inks. However,… I like to think
that I own my skills and that my skills do not own me. (typical
french obsession for freedom, lol).

Juliette Arda
Artiste-Bijoutiere
Aix en Provence, France

the Worshipful Company of Goldsmiths crest seems a robust and widely
applicable choice to me… it is well laid out,-design wise, gender
non-specific, richly symbolic and the design presents the individual
with the opportunity to wear a colourful tattoo…it has ancient and
continuing historical significance and is an authentic crest true to
heraldry still in use in this time

RER

Hello,

someone else has suggested that st. dunstan is the patron saint of
goldsmiths are there two patron saints for our trade 

In France, the patron saint for goldsmiths is St Eloi ( a french
name for Eligius).

http://www.desrimes.be/IMG/jpg/St_20Eloi.jpg
http://tinyurl.com/2vgppo

He lived between 588 and 659 and was a famous counsellor of King
Dagobert.

here is an article in english on Eloi :

here another on Dustan:
http://www.st-dunstans.org/history/biography.htm

This said, I personnally would not use a christian symbol if my
tattoo had to be recognised all over the world. I 'd go for something
more universal like sun and moon for gold and silver, a stylized
chasing hammer, fire and earth…

Juliette Arda
Artiste-Bijoutiere
Aix en Provence, France

perhaps a tattoo of ones job is to close to being symbolic of
slavery or habeas corpus, possesion, etc. thoughts please 

I don’t think reason or thought has anything to do with tattoos. It’s
more “epater le bourgeoise” or it’s parallel “epater les parents”.
Young people often smoke because their parents don’t smoke. Tattoos
are also a indication of a generational divide. Just a thought.

KPK

The Patron Saint of Jewelers which is Saint Eligius. 

Since the Catholic church, originator of patron saints, has thrown
them out along with mortal sin for eating meat on Friday; the field
is wide open for anyone to nominate whomever one chooses.

KPK

Hi Goo;

its interesting that some goldsmithing folk have mentioned they
are tatoo'd but none involve thier means of goldsmithing livlyhood
and i am wondering why ? 

I suspect that today, many tatoos are used to balance a persons
professional or social identity. They demonstrate that the wearer
has a dark or wild side, or an irreverent, iconoclastic aspect that
they keep under control. But as many, I’m sure, wear tatoos that tell
it like is. Check out the movie “Eastern Promises” for a fascinating
insight into the tattoos worn by the Russian Mafia. They are
basically a criminal’s curriculum vitae. Tatoos are fascinating
social phenomenon, and I’m just betting there has been more than one
PhD thesis written on the topic. I work upstairs from a little
magazine/tobacco/snack type store. On the magazine racks are at
least a half dozen mags on tatooing. Why don’t you find a good tatoo
artist and ask his or her opinion too?

David L. Huffman