Frank,
Thank you for your detailed post.
Brian,
I stopped using cheap files a while ago. Since a friend gave me some
Swiss-made Vallorbe files and I experienced the quality, those are
all I use. I will be buying Vallorbe the next time I need to buy
more files too. I’m a bit of a tool snob once I try something of
quality - then nothing else will do!
Thanks for the tips on how to clean out files. I must give it a try!
Alastair,
sometimes the polish refuses to work after rubber wheeling
Ain’t that the truth?! This has also been my experience. I’m taking
people’s advice and using files much less. I resized my brother’s
wedding ring today. It needed a new piece of gold (3mm wide)
inserting into it to make it the right size - taking it from a size
U1/2 to a V1/2. The only thing I used a file for was to file flush
the two protruding ends of the new gold piece after soldering it in.
Oh, and I filed the inside of the new piece before going onto
sandpaper. I then sanded the new piece to blend in all of its
surfaces, before sanding the whole ring inside and out. I repeated
this for two grades of sandpaper, before going onto my first cut
polishing compound. I gave it one hour in the tumbler and will
finish the polishing tomorrow hopefully. I used both a sanding stick
and small pieces of sandpaper to get the desired finish, and it was
nowhere near as difficult as I thought it would be.
Ian,
Thanks for answering my questions regarding files vs sandpaper. It
makes sense. I’m using files much less now (see above) and I too
like the Vallorbe files and will be buying them one at a time because
of the price!
John D,
Do what you need to do, when you need to do it, and nothing more.
Like all things, it comes with time and practice.
I’m getting there now, thanks to everyone’s advice. I’d gone a
little off track, using files too extensively, and relying on the use
of rubber wheels. Sandpaper is giving a much more even surface.
There's no need for Helen Hill to get anywhere near so deep to
polish her rings, but it's important to know what you don't know,
too. Metals finishing is a deep subject that has specialists with
Phd's in the field.
And that’s why I like to read - I don’t like not knowing about
things - particularly in my chosen field, so I like to know what I
don’t know, if you see what I mean. Pretty much every little obscure
thing (not talking about polishing here) in life has boffins with
PhD’s. They’re the ones doing the research into just about
everything. I had read about and seen mass-production type finishing,
and that’s why I got my tumbler. However, I ended using it for
completely different reasons - to burnish/harden my pieces to enable
a more durable finish after first pre-finishing them. I still polish
as well, after setting any stones.
Jon,
I dont want to be percieved as lacking quality because of what i
said, i didnt mean that polishing should be overlooked either. I
have standards
I certainly did NOT mean to imply that you lack quality or that you
don’t have standards. That was not my intention at all. I just meant
to outline that the steps I take, which we were discussing, are
taken because of certain reasons - not just for the sake of it. Each
step such as tumbling, is taken because of certain pitfalls and
problems I’ve experienced in the past. I appreciate your advice.
JeffD,
Short and simple, sometimes a little brutal but my results are
good. Watching a professional polisher even for a couple of hours
can be very educational. They don't goof around, they just get the
job done.
I guess it’s a confidence thing. Polishing is one of the things that
has given me problems during the last couple of years, and as a
relative beginner, you can get a little bit paranoid about doing
everything right - just as the textbooks say. But stepping back,
taking a look, and having the confidence to just do what it needs is
all part of progressing. I’m getting there I think. I’m finally
getting the big polisher set up and will have to buy some new buffs
for it - then hopefully my finishing should be much better. But I
will be using the polisher for an absolute minimum amount of time
needed, after first preparing the metal properly.
Kevin,
That programme sounds fascinating. I’ve not seen it advertised, but
will have to have a look and see if I can find it. I do like my
finish to be good even through the loupe. It’s getting better.
Dave,
you really need to know the importance of a sanding stick, or
paddle, that you make yourself
I have one which I use all the time. I just need to make some new
ones, as it’s a little worn out. I’ve been sourcing sandpaper and
will be making a purchase soon, then getting some batons from the
DIY shop and making some more. They are great things.
Bonnie,
Thanks for your advice too. Metal finishing has been the bane of my
life too!
Ian Wright,
A fascinating tour of the history of file-making, and I didn’t
realise you were into horology! Something else I’d love to have had a
go at, but I’ll definitely leave that one to the experts. BTW, I
LOVED the pictures of Oliver in your tuba! They were absolutely
adorable. Grandchildren are wonderful.
Dave (dp),
Thanks for the tips regarding a quick polish to highlight stubborn
scratches. Someone else said a similar thing too, if I recall.
Definitely worth a go, until I get used to whether or not I’ve got
rid of the offending scratches. Yes, I too, would be inclined to wash
the polish off before going back in with the sandpaper.
Thanks to all folks who have answered my questions and offered
advice.
Helen
UK