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Pastry Tip Retainer


#1

Here it is!

The item you’ve all been waiting for! (Haven’t you?)

A retainer to hold those pesky pastry tips to that wonderful, work saving,
economical, exciting SDJ Wax Gun.

Best of all it can be yours for a few minutes work & a trip to the hardware
store.

The retainer is designed to work on most full size glue guns, you can adapt the
design (no sweat) to fit your glue gun. It works on mine.

Here goes.

Material List

18-24 inches (457-609mm) 20 ga steel wire (black or galvanized) Note: Sterling
or gold wire can be substituted in the Deluxe &
Super deluxe models.

1 1/2" ODx 1/16" thick rubber ‘O’ ring (about $.10 at the hardware store) You
might want to get a few, you’ll probably loose
1 or 2.

I checked pastry tips at several stores. They all seem to have the same nominal
dimensions, aprox 1.25" tall x .75" wide at the base. BTW, Wal-Mart has the best
price. Both glue guns & pastry tips are located in their ‘Fabric’ dept with the
craft stuff. The tips were from $.86 to 1.40 each. There is a small glue gun
available for $3-4, it uses 1/4" dia glue. If anyone can find 1/4" dia wax, let
me know.

Construction

  1. Place the center of the wire over a 1/2" (13mm) mandrel.

  2. Wrap the wire around the mandrel for 1 1/2 turns.

  3. Wrap the ends of the wires around the ring. One wire should be wrapped at 3
    o’clock, the other at 9 o’clock (position, not
    time).

  4. With the ring lying flat on the bench, form each wire up, so it is at 90
    deg to the bench top.

  5. Form an aprox 1/4" (6mm) loop on the end of each wire leg.

  6. For best results, the wire legs should be work hardened. This can be
    accomplished by grasping the loop on each leg (one
    at a time) with a cup hook installed in a drill chuck.
    a. Place the ring end in a pliers the flat way (both sides of the ring are
    between the jaws), place the pliers as close to the leg
    to be hardened as possible.
    b. Grasp the loop on each leg (one at a time) with a cup hook installed in a
    drill chuck.
    c. While holding the wire taut, turn on the drill for a short duration. This
    will cause the wire to rotate about its axis, hardening
    it. Don’t twist the wire too long, or it will break.

  7. Place the rubber ‘O’ ring over the nozzle of the glue gun.

  8. Place a pastry tip over the nozzle & ‘O’ ring. The ‘O’ ring serves 3
    purposes: 1, it pevents the melted wax from flowing out
    the back of the pastry tip; 2, reduces the amount of melted wax between
    the nozzle and pastry tip; 3, it applies pressure
    against the tip and retainer to keep the tip in place.

  9. Place the 2 legged ring over the pastry tip with the legs pointing toward
    the back of the gun.

  10. Most guns have vent holes or slots to help cool them. While holding the
    retainer and tip firmly in place, position a leg over
    the hole or slot most convenient to the nozzle. Mark the position of the
    leg with the forward edge of the hole or slot. Try to
    keep the leg parallel to the center line of the nozzle.

  11. Remove the retainer from the pastry tip.

  12. Grasp the leg on the ring side of the mark so the mark is 1 mm above the
    pliers. Form the wire to the inside, so it forms a 90
    with the leg. The bend should be 1 mm (aprox) closer to the ring than the
    mark.

  13. Fold the end of the wire back on itself (away from the ring) so the leg
    resembles a ‘T’ with 1/4" (6mm) and 1 long side.

  14. Fold the end of the wire back on itself in a 1/4" (6mm) loop (toward the
    ring). Cross the leg of the ‘T’ and wrap 1 turn of wire
    around the inside cross arm as close to the leg as possible. Cut off and
    discard the excess wire. The loop is used to aid
    latching/unlatching the retainer.

  15. Place the pastry tip over the ‘O’ ring and nozzle. Place the retainer over
    the pastry tip and latch the completed leg in the
    selected hole or slot.

  16. Return to step 10 and repeat steps 10 thru 15 for the second leg. Continue
    at step 17 when the second leg is done.

  17. The legs may need individual adjustment to ensure they remain latched when
    in use.
    a. If the latches fail to remain latched, form the latch side of the 'T’
    so it forms about an 85 dg angle with the leg.
    b. If the leg appears to be too long, grasp it with a pliers an form it so
    a little zig-zag appears.

Good luck to all you pastry workers (bg).

Ask away if, no, not if, when you have problems.

Dave Arens


#2

Well! I have just started to read Dave A’s solution to the DA TIP solution
for the SDJS Wax Gun… I’m sure it will work… for those guns requiring
a variation in nozzle-small gun size… However, may I offer my
investigation into the Pastry Tip attachment situation … haven’t attached
yet! but will po vide possible solutions (haven’t emplemented any yet but
have purchased materials and intend to 'give all a shot early next week;

Alternative 1
– Suan’s gun(lARGE… AND… OLD,… works!!) attached
the tip with a brass fitting which is available
from Home Depot… was a, 1/2" burred by 1/2’ male
Pipe fitting, …Available From HOME Depot …

                THE 1/2" IS A HOSE FITTING SIZE AND... THAT'S

it!!!.. … DOES COMES IN 3/8"… later!!

        __      The small guns WILL NOT HANDLE THE  1/2" HOSE

FITTING… MUCH TOOL LARGE … WILL TAKE A 1/4"
Barred or 3/8" barred X 1/2" HOSE FITTING
…WHICH DOES EXITS… HOWEVER NOT FROM HD…
THEY DO NOT CARRY THE Sizes… A HOSE AND PART
COMPANY DOES…??? HARD TO FINE!!

        I have not attempted to solder the smaller fitting to the

smaller gun … I assume the material will accept solder???..
Later this week.

ALL FITTINGS SUGGESTED ABOVE ARE BRASS … TIP MATERIAL MAY VARY ACCORDING
TO GUN!!!

Alternative 2

-       The cafeteria wholesalers or the backery wholesalers carry

a PLASTIC Pastry tip (Maybe Polyethylene!!!, White)… It is
exactly the same as the end of the old pastry guns… can get
the screw on plastic end with the part the hold the tip …that
also screws to the tip(go look at it!!!)… it is too large
for the little gun(can’t judge for the large gun!!, cost…$1.00)
It can be ‘Poxied on’!!! (to either gun) with an Epoxy that
handles temp… HD has the product…l have it; It’s, called…
‘POXY’ … Can’t say whether it will do the job… Should!!!

Going to read Dave A’s research and make a discussion as to which is easier
for ME…NOW!!

Jim

At 06:22 PM 11/6/96 EST, you wrote:

Here it is!

The item you’ve all been waiting for! (Haven’t you?)

A retainer to hold those pesky pastry tips to that wonderful, work saving,
economical, exciting SDJ Wax Gun.

Best of all it can be yours for a few minutes work & a trip to the hardware
store.

The retainer is designed to work on most full size glue guns, you can adapt the
design (no sweat) to fit your glue gun. It works on mine.

Here goes.

Material List

18-24 inches (457-609mm) 20 ga steel wire (black or galvanized) Note: Sterling
or gold wire can be substituted in the Deluxe &
Super deluxe models.

1 1/2" ODx 1/16" thick rubber ‘O’ ring (about $.10 at the hardware store) You
might want to get a few, you’ll probably loose
1 or 2.

I checked pastry tips at several stores. They all seem to have the same nominal
dimensions, aprox 1.25" tall x .75" wide at the base. BTW, Wal-Mart has the
best
price. Both glue guns & pastry tips are located in their ‘Fabric’ dept with the
craft stuff. The tips were from $.86 to 1.40 each. There is a small glue gun
available for $3-4, it uses 1/4" dia glue. If anyone can find 1/4" dia wax, let
me know.

Construction

  1. Place the center of the wire over a 1/2" (13mm) mandrel.
  1. Wrap the wire around the mandrel for 1 1/2 turns.
  1. Wrap the ends of the wires around the ring. One wire should be wrapped
    at 3
    o’clock, the other at 9 o’clock (position, not
    time).
  1. With the ring lying flat on the bench, form each wire up, so it is at 90
    deg to the bench top.
  1. Form an aprox 1/4" (6mm) loop on the end of each wire leg.
  1. For best results, the wire legs should be work hardened. This can be
    accomplished by grasping the loop on each leg (one
    at a time) with a cup hook installed in a drill chuck.
    a. Place the ring end in a pliers the flat way (both sides of the ring are
    between the jaws), place the pliers as close to the leg
    to be hardened as possible.
    b. Grasp the loop on each leg (one at a time) with a cup hook installed in a
    drill chuck.
    c. While holding the wire taut, turn on the drill for a short duration. This
    will cause the wire to rotate about its axis, hardening
    it. Don’t twist the wire too long, or it will break.
  1. Place the rubber ‘O’ ring over the nozzle of the glue gun.
  1. Place a pastry tip over the nozzle & ‘O’ ring. The ‘O’ ring serves 3
    purposes: 1, it pevents the melted wax from flowing out
    the back of the pastry tip; 2, reduces the amount of melted wax between
    the nozzle and pastry tip; 3, it applies pressure
    against the tip and retainer to keep the tip in place.
  1. Place the 2 legged ring over the pastry tip with the legs pointing toward
    the back of the gun.
  1. Most guns have vent holes or slots to help cool them. While holding the
    retainer and tip firmly in place, position a leg over
    the hole or slot most convenient to the nozzle. Mark the position of the
    leg with the forward edge of the hole or slot. Try to
    keep the leg parallel to the center line of the nozzle.
  1. Remove the retainer from the pastry tip.
  1. Grasp the leg on the ring side of the mark so the mark is 1 mm above the
    pliers. Form the wire to the inside, so it forms a 90
    with the leg. The bend should be 1 mm (aprox) closer to the ring than the
    mark.
  1. Fold the end of the wire back on itself (away from the ring) so the leg
    resembles a ‘T’ with 1/4" (6mm) and 1 long side.
  1. Fold the end of the wire back on itself in a 1/4" (6mm) loop (toward the
    ring). Cross the leg of the ‘T’ and wrap 1 turn of wire
    around the inside cross arm as close to the leg as possible. Cut off and
    discard the excess wire. The loop is used to aid
    latching/unlatching the retainer.
  1. Place the pastry tip over the ‘O’ ring and nozzle. Place the retainer over
    the pastry tip and latch the completed leg in the
    selected hole or slot.
  1. Return to step 10 and repeat steps 10 thru 15 for the second leg. Continue
    at step 17 when the second leg is done.
  1. The legs may need individual adjustment to ensure they remain latched when
    in use.
    a. If the latches fail to remain latched, form the latch side of the 'T’
    so it forms about an 85 dg angle with the leg.
    b. If the leg appears to be too long, grasp it with a pliers an form
    it so