Off topic E-mail

I was just wondering if others have been getting the same kind
of nasty E-mail lately I have. Before I joined Orchid I didn’t
receive one post advertising porno web sites…but in the last
month or so I seem to get one daily! Alot are aol based, I wrote
the administrators but to my great surprise :wink: they havn’t
responded! Since I have been on aol a long time it seems like I
must have done something to get their attention. Sorry to babble
off subject but my subscription to Orchid is the only change I
can think of.

Karen
@Karenworks

 Sorry to babble off subject but my subscription to Orchid is
the only change I can think of.

Dear Karen,

Allow me please to make it clear that the fact you have joined
Orchid has nothing to do with the junk mail you are getting!! We
do not give your email away!! We DISABLED the ‘who’ command to the
list which generate the subscribers list. And I work hard to
spare from you all junk mail send directly to the list.

Anyone who is active on discussion groups, newsgroups or even just
putting up a website will eventually get junk mail. I am getting
over 50 a day! It is much easier to just delete it, than to
complain to the never-takes-action-postmaster. I guess this is the
price we are all paying for being up here…:slight_smile:

Hanuman

Karen,

I have been on Orchid since January and have never recieved
solicitation for anything other than I think two get-rich-quick
schemes. I suspect they got your name from somewhere else,
maybe off of the net.

Sharon

It would not surprise me one bit if they used any newsgroup to
acquire names for spam. to complain to aol, direct your email
letters to TOSemail1@aol.com.

Gary Roman
Owner, Fantasy Beads–Jewelry, Beads and Ethnographic Items
11254 Triangle Lane/Wheaton, MD 20902/301-933-8411

   I was just wondering if others have been getting the same
kind of nasty E-mail lately I have.  Before I joined Orchid I
didn't receive one post advertising porno web sites... Karen

G’day Karen - I have been with Orchid for some while now and
have only had one such mail and that was about 8 months ago.
Could this be because I’m an oldie and male? But just treat
them with ignore.

Cheers,

        /\
       / /    John Burgess, 
      / /
     / //\    @John_Burgess2
    / / \ \
   / (___) \
  (_________)

Greetings,

Think of the power we hold…Just one finger and we can
DELETE any or many messages.

These same fingers create what our only minds can imagine .

What awesome potential to express the beauty of our souls…

Thanks for being Hanuman and Orchid…

All the best in all things,

Wm.

             Mystical Grits
         Wm. Augustus Mason

Metaphysical Jewelry, Crystals & Gems,
url: http://www.concentric.net/~lightone/

Original Spiritual Space Jazz Heart Music
Furniture Design
Food Design & Creation
Ideas, Fantasies, Visions, Conscious Creations
Feel Good, Be Happy, Enjoy LIFE!

I was just wondering if others have been getting the same kind
of nasty E-mail lately I have.

Hi Karen,

I get junk email only occasionally, despite having a web site,
belonging to four discussion lists, and receiving three email
digests.

I think that the only real difference is in how well your ISP
(Internet Service Provider) filters what comes in, and controls
what its members may send. AOL is notoriously bad at … well
… everything.

I receive a few unsolicited gem & jewelry related emails, but
those don’t bother me. I skim the first paragraph and hit the
delete key if I’m not interested.

I find the “TREMENDOUS BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY!!!” posts very
annoying, especially when they are titled “hi” (in an attempt to
make you think they are a co-member of a list). I send them
back ten or twenty copies of whatever they sent me, with an
unkind comment or two across the top of the first one.

There’s usually nothing you can do about the cyber-smut ads,
because they tend to use fake return email addresses.

Tom

Karen, I have not recieved any junk mail either, and have been
subscribed to Orchid for 6 months.

(another)Karen
karen@carvedbyramsey.com

Hi Karen,

Alot are aol based, I wrote the administrators but to my great
surprise ;-) they havn't responded!<<

Why not try a different service? There are lots out there.

I’ve been on Cserve for about 5 years & have had less than a
dozen spams, none of them obscene or porno (knock on wood).

Dave

Think of the power we hold......Just one finger and we can
DELETE any  or many messages.

The power may be even greater than that! Many email programs
have “filters” available. With these we can order the program
to delete much objectionable or unwanted material without even
seeing it! I can automatically scan a message, even the
content, for objectionable words, phrases, addresses, etc.!
Think of the power! The ability to direct a force to perform
this task!

Seriously, I find filters quite usefull!!
Marrin Fleet
@Marrin_and_Mary_Dell

I have been on Orchid since January and have never recieved
solicitation for anything other than I think two get-rich-quick
schemes. I suspect they got your name from somewhere else,
maybe off of the net.

Sharon One of my mail accounts gets spammed frequently. I just
got an email from abuse@netcom.com saying they closed the
account of a client who spammed me with a Christopher Erickson
MMF. I also sent a copy to pyramid@ftc.gov. If you are really
annoyed send a copy to “postal inspector” at the zip codes of the
people you are supposed to send money to. :<)

Rick
Richard D. Hamilton

Fabricated 14k, 18k, and platinum Jewelry
wax carving, modelmaking, jewelry photography

http://www.rick-hamilton.com
@rick_hamilton

Hi Karen,

My other email address at work is inundated with all sorts of
unsolicited email, or “spam”. Unfortunately my company has not
implemented an anti-spam strategy. Fortunately, the bad guys
haven’t discovered this email address yet, but I suspect it is
only a matter of time.

My ISP (Mindspring) has implemented an anti-spam program which
will supposedly eliminate most, if not all spam. Unless AOL
puts together an anti-spam program, you’re probably going to
have to change your email address to get away from it. How about
karenworks@mindspring.com”?

Many of these unwanted pieces of email offer a way to remove
yourself from the list. I have been advised NOT to follow
this process, as all they do is use this to confirm
that the email address is still “good”.

The more “visible” you are on the Internet, the more likely you
are to get on one of these email address lists. Apparently some
developers have written “spiders” that crawl all over the Web
looking for email addresses and adding them to their database,
which they in-turn sell to just about anyone.

One thing you can do to avoid getting on a list (too late for
you now) is to not participate in surveys or contests on the
Web. Web site guestbooks (like mine) are often saved to a
private directory and are safe. Of course, participation in
discussion groups, chatrooms, etc. also gives you some
visibility, but I find the benefit of Orchid to outweigh the
annoyance of spam email.

I am hopeful the Internet community will develop a solution to
this problem. Most people on the Web and ISPs feel that spam
mail is unethical, to the point that some ISPs will terminate a
customer if they find they are spamming. With so many people on
the 'net, even a small percentage of rogues can cause a problem.

In the mean time, complaining to AOL may help… I’m sure they
are painfully aware of the problem. Their ability or desire to
do anything about it is another question.

Good luck,

Dave

Dave Sebaste
Sebaste Studio
Charlotte, NC (USA)
dave@sebaste.com
http://www.sebaste.com

hello,

I’n sorry if my post made it seem like I blamed you for my
increase in junk- mail. I was just wondering about the major
increase in porn site ads I have started getting all of a sudden.
Truth to tell I am not terribly active on the web and Orchid is
the only list I have been on for a while so I was just curious if
others had been inundated recently as well. I greatly appreciate
this list and the work you do to maintain it, I hope my post
didn’t make me appear ungrateful.

sincerely,
karen
@Karenworks

Being an AOL user, like yourself, I find that there are at least
a dozen of “HOT.com” postings in my mailbox on a daily basis.
I’ve never visited those sites, I have no desire to visit those
sites. I also get multiple postings advertising cable converter
boxes, dental/optical plans and lets not forget the MAKE A
MILLION dollars in the next 10 seconds! Mine are usually not
from AOL id’s, most appear to be from Compuserve and whatever
HOT.com” is . . . It is annoying, but I"ve been lucky enough to
be able to pick out and delete the unwanted without getting rid
of the notes I want to read!

Hi! I have to comment once again, regarding AOL and their
E-mail. As of a few days ago, one can block all unwanted mail
(choosing instead, to pick the mail they want to receive) . …
As an AOL user, I found the option to block totally silly (block
everyone, even those whom I do not know . . . from entering my
mailbox??? I don’t think so!) Reasoning behind that statement
. . . so, and so, wants to send me E-mail regarding an order or
even a discussion??? Why should I block them out?

My option is very clear, I DELETE the mail (unread) from those
who I don’t want to get E-mail from (does that make sense???)
I never intended to imply that, because of Orchid; I’m receiving
unwanted, unsolicited E-mail. AOL had no way of blocking anything
that flew my way from the internet . . . I doubt that they have
anything in the way of BLOCKING that is going to keep the
unwanted, unsolicited stuff from entering anyones mailbox (their
option is to “accept E-mail from the following . … " “Reject all
others”) What if there is something I want to know about flying
into my mailbox, yet I don’t know who it is from?? Should I
block that?? No, I don’t think so! I’ll take it all, and I’ll
censor myself, thank you!”

I have an aol account in addition to my regular isp account. I
subscribe to Orchid on my non-aol account. I find that most of
the junk mail comes to the aol account and very little to my isp
account. I have a feeling aol does a horrible job of screening
out spam mail and most of it is unrelated to sites I’ve visited.
Just out and out junk spam.

Rita

I have three email boxes, and only one of them gets spammed on a
regular basis. Whenever I can determine the ISP origin of the
unsolicited mail, I send a copy to abuse@ISP. This week I
recieved a message from one ISP that they had disabled the
account of a “make money fast” ponzi schemer.

I was annoyed by the inability to do the same to another MMF- so
I sent copies via snail mail to the appropriate postal
inspectors. There is a website called The MMF hall of
Humiliation dedicated to exposing these idiots and
their illegal pyramid letters. It is very funny. While deleting
their mail gets it out of your system, more drastic action gets
it off the web.

Rick Hamilton
Richard D. Hamilton
Fabricated 14k, 18k, and platinum Jewelry
wax carving, modelmaking, jewelry photography

<http://www.rick-hamilton.com

@rick_hamilton

Karen:

I am also an AOL user. I have not received any porn news. Maybe
its another source

A question I have for all of you in this thread. . . why do you
use AOL anyway? Using either of the two major browsers, plus any
garden-variety ISP, gets you to the entire web? What does one
really need AOL, Prodigy, etc., for? Just an innocent question.