Was mis-used jewelry terms, let’s open it up…
I am not certain if this is aimed at me but since you quoted one of my posts
No, Jim, there was another comment, way back. And thank you…
gold soldering 19 itsy pieces of PT to make a threestoner,
Bingo. I’ll say, since people here don’t know things unless you tell
the m, that I have actually been trained in platinum. Worked in a
platinum shop (factory) with platinum people making platinum jewelry
the way platinum is made. That doesn’t make me special, just trained
- not guessing.
Throughout the past discussion, I’ve been sitting here wondering,
"Why are demonstrably intelligent people disputing a matter that is
platinum 101 - ‘If you don’t know this then you need to learn it’?"
Then Tom Arnold (certainly demonstrably intelligent) and some of what
Jim (ditto) said gave me a clue - they talked about gold.
To use Neil’s example above if you build a platinum piece with gold
(gold family) solder you’re going to have nothing but trouble, and
that trouble will follow the piece everywhere. My comments on that
topic were about platinum, not gold.
When you talk about mixing gold and platinum you have an entirely
different beast - and Neil is correct - I talked about gold soldering
a diamond ring, because diamonds can’t handle platinum heat. When I
realized what is largely just crossed lines of commucation, last
night, I looked down at my wedding band, which is a platinum center
band with two 18 kt. trim pieces.
I’ve worn it everyday for 20 years…
Now, I have witnessed platinum bands soldered together with gold
solder that just cleaved and broke apart upon being hit on a ring
mandrel. But when you have gold and platinum you have two things:
First, you don’t have a choice, and second the solder is made for
the gold to begin with. Jim knows, and others probably have figured
out, that I am a pragmatist - I leave it to him to try to figure out
and explain the why’s of it, all I want to know is what works and
what doesn’t. I’m smart enough to find out, I just don’t want to…
Everybody knows that soft solder, like Tix, has no strength on
silver, but if you were to sweat solder two pieces of silver
together with it, it would be strong enough at least to make a point.
And to some degree the same is true on my wedding ring - maybe the
bond isn’t terribly strong, but being soldered all around gives it
plenty of area to hold. And the fact that one of the metals is gold
is terribly significant.
So, just a discussion - perhaps I’ve been a bit cantankerous but I’ll
tell you - we all have pet peeves and one of mine is people who work
platinum as though it were gold. Then it gets dumped on me to
fix…About the only thing platinum has in common with silver work
is that they are both metals, and goldsmithing has more in common but
not that much more. So, when somebody tells me that they want to use
gold solder in platinum construction because (if it’s because) they
just don’t know how to properly work the stuff - well, the hairs on
the back of my neck just start prickling and I can get a little