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Looking for Imperial Jade


#1

Greetings, All, I need your help identifying one or two trustworthy
sources for Imperial Jade. I have a client looking for a pair of
earrings, stones roughly 10x14mm. This will complement some pieces
she already has. I’ve checked through my sources and so far have
found small pieces (6mm-ish) or larger WAY-expensive pieces. Lots of
Nephrite and Jadeite that is more green spotted than green. I’m
hoping pieces of the size I’m looking for won’t be out-of-sight in
price. Oh, and of course I’m looking for untreated Imperial Jade –
if possible. And the sun, and the moon, and a new car, while you’re
out there looking.

As always, I thank you for your wonderful assistance.

Beth Schmitz
Wolf Mountain Jewelry


#2

Hi there, I have have one source for imperial jade- Mason & Kay Co
from Colorado. They have wonderful pieces but not cheap…However,I
know that they deal in untreated jade. Their selection is quite
large. And they are very reasonable people to deal with. You can
call & see what’s available- Mason & Kay Co. P.O.Box 65015 Denver,CO
1-800-722-7575 They deal in loose as well as finished jewelry.

Hope this helps,
Jo-Ann Maggiora Donivan
Maggiora Jlry. Co.
San Francisco,CA


#3

Beth, I highly recommend Mason-Kay in Denver at (800)722 7575. I have
dealt with them for twenty years or more, and they’re TOTALLY
trustworthy. Also, very knowledgeable about jade, and committed to
the jade business. A few years ago, they invested tens of thousands
of dollars in a machine to test jade, so make sure that which they
sold as ‘natural’ was ‘legit’ and untreated.

Standard disclaimer…but they’re good friends, and I TRUST them.
David Barzilay, Lord of the Rings


#4
    I have a client looking for a pair of earrings, stones roughly
10x14mm......  Oh, and of course I'm looking for untreated
Imperial Jade -- if possible 

Hi Beth While at Tucson this year I purchased some from Jason Penn
Designs, LLC. Jason can be contacted at 877-988-2737. All the best

Barbara Smith McLaughlin - Handcrafted Jewelry
166 Portsmouth Ave
Stratham, NH 03885
603-772-2633


#5

Beth, Real Imperial Jade is quite rare. Prices vary drastically,
but a good base price is around $50 - $100 per carat, if or when you
can find it. I have seen individual pieces of exceptionally fine
Imperial Jade sell for thousands of US Dollars per stone. Obtain an
education about jade before you go looking or you will be burned.
If I did not have an education I would hire a professional jade
dealer and insist that the item be identified by the GIA before I
bought the piece. Even GIA is finding many new treatments on jade
that are very difficult to identify and require special equipment.

Gerry Galarneau
gggemswcr@cox.net
www.galarneausgems.com


#6

Beth, according to “The Guide”, a 10 x 14 mm #2 color jadeite (
Imperial Jade) would wholesale for $25,000 a stone. This is for an
untreated stone. The fact that this high price is quoted would say
that the stones are not available. Again, quoting The Guide, “Extra
fine green jade (“imperial Jade”) often smaller than one carat ,
prices are highly negotiable.” If you find a source of “Imperial
Jade” for much less, I would be very cautious of what you are
buying.

Don


#7

Beth, It appears that the term “Imperial Jade” might be part of the
problem here. While the term may be found in many guides and jade
lists…it is contrived supposedly to describe the best jadeite
reserved for royality. In reality, jadeite which is believed to have
come to China during the 1600s (all the rest being nephrite or ‘fu
yu’ - false jade such as serpentine etc) was used in many levels of
quality by the mandarins. Some in fact was of quite poor quality
depending on position and wealth.

First, lets go to the primary and traditional source of jadeite -
Burma. In 1927 Chhibber provided the following color catagories for
jade(ite): (1) most precious a translucent grass green, (2) light
green with bright green markings, (3) clouded, (4) dark green -
rather soft and brittle, (5) red or brownish found in boulders which
have been embedded in red earth, (6) translucent white, (7) white and
translucent, but sometimes opaque patches which reduce its value and
(8) dark green, which appears black unless the material is cut thinly
(From 'Jade of the East by Geoffrey Wills, 1972). Interestingly
enough, the list does not include some of the yellows, purples, blue
or mauve that are also found.

The “Jade Records” from the Tsin dynasty (265-420 AD)classified jade
in nine colors: black as deep water, blue as indigo foam, green as
fresh moss, emerald as the kingfisher’s feathers, yellow as steamed
chestnuts, vermillion as cinnabar, purple as congealed blood, jet
black as ink, white as mutton fat and mottled with red and white
streaks. Other Chinese writtings describe it as: ruby red,
chicken-blood red, cinnabar red, cherry red, date red, parrot green,
pine-needle green, gingko green, asmanthus fragrus yellow, sunflower
yellow, chestnut yellow, wine yellow, fishmaw white, chicken-bone
white, rice white, pool-water gray-blue, crab-shell gray-blue, willow
green, bamboo leaf green, eggplant purple, palm hair purple, bean
paste mauve, pure varnish black and old ink black. WHEW! Still, the
one color that describes the most valued of all jadeites is a bright
pure emerald green as described by Chhibber as ‘translucent grass
green’. The Chinese term is ‘fei-ts’ui’ after the kingfisher bird’s
bright plummage. In China ‘fei-ts’ui’ jade, is referred to with
reverence because it is so rare and considered so pure as to embody
one’s soul. That is why it is also so expensive. You will rarely
see such jade in the west. Most of it is siphoned off at the jade
auctions in HongKong and stays in the Asian market where it is both
appreciated and can be afforded. Americans generally do not
appreciate it enough to pay the demanded price. I have, for example,
seen small fei-ts’ui cabs in places like HongKong, Taipei, etc, going
for $8,000 to 10,000USD a carat.

But don’t dispare. Within the large range of colors and qualities of
jade are some very fine specimens that can be had for reasonable
prices. “Bwo-li yu” or aka glass jade, describes a very transparant
jade…it just may not be emerald green that is quite reasonable in
price. Other jade can be beautiful emerald green but not display the
transparant (fei-ts’ui) qualities.

I would recommend you discuss this with your client and see where
her pocket book and desires meet!

Cheers from Don at The Charles Belle Studio in SOFL where simple
elegance IS fine jewelry! @coralnut1


#8

Hi all, You can read about jade in many gemological articles and even
books on Jade. The real experience is looking at one and come to
understand more quickly especially on quality and price. Check out
the stores selling jade and learn from looking and appreciate the
quality - it is worth thousand of words.

Tay
Singapore
www.gem.com.sg