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Japanese cloisonne

I have been asked to create missing lids for two miniature Japanese
cloisonne vases. The issue is not the cloisonne, I have been doing
that for over 25 years. I need on the mechanics and
materials that traditionally would have been used.

I have only seen photos at this point but similar lids to those that
are required appear to have the main section [the area that will
hold the enamel] probably spun from sheet copper into a half sphere
shape. At the base of this shape is a metal ring that protects the
edge of the enamel. Inserted into the interior of this ring is a
cylinder that creates the friction fit that holds the lid to the
vase. There is a solid metal finial shaped like a chrysanthemum bud.
The whole lid is about 1 1/8" tall and 1" diameter.

Logically I would make the enamel base from copper [as stated above]
but assume the ring and friction sleeve are probably made of brass.
If so I would solder those in place with IT solder before enameling.
The completed lid will probably be gold plated at the end.

If any of you know the procedures and/or specific materials
[brass/bronze alloy] would you please contact me off line?

I have spoken with 3 collectors and have gone on the web but have
not found the I need. Everything I find deals with the
age, designs, artists, wirework, a description of enamel techniques
but nothing about the structure that holds the enamel.

Thank you in advance
Orchid Rules!..Karla in sunny S. California

Hi, Construction (ie solder types) largely depends on when it was
made. In at least some case, brass mounts, rims etc were soft
soldered on after enamelling.


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Hi Karla,

I saw a question that you had concerning making a Japanese Cloisonne
vase lid. I imagine you got your question answered by now. If you
did not maybe Mr. Eberhardt could help. Since Mr. Eberhardt is both
a repairer/restorer of Cloisonne, and a collector, he may
occasionally want such a lid as you have made and I am wondering
what is the cost for such an item.

Thank you, Best Regards and Happy New Year,

Jonathan Novak