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Hoover & Strong & Amber ring


#1

Hi!

Just wanted to thank you all!! So, I wasn’t being to picky after
all! I’ll try some of the recommendations next time. I didn’t
complain to Rio and I probably should have–been so busy lately
and needed to use the metal. And from what I’ve read of others
experiences it probably wouldn’t make a difference anyways.

Another reason I think I may have used Rio is that they make it
easy. When I first started I got a few Gazillion catalogs and I
remember I couldn’t figure out the pricing in Hoover &
Strong–pennyweights and dwts or something =-). I just wanted
some metal to make stuff!!! I guess it’s time to buckle down and
figure it out!

I also wanted to let you know that I finished the Amber ring I
was repairing. After much thought I did create a curved bottom as
the customer requested. I did it --VERY–slowly under running
water (overkill?) and didn’t go too deep. I think it turned out
pretty well, but I’ll let you know what the customer thinks :wink:

later

Kathie


#2
 Another reason I think I may have used Rio is that they make
it easy. When I first started I got a few Gazillion catalogs
and I remember I couldn't figure out the pricing in Hoover &
Strong--pennyweights and dwts or something =-). I just wanted
some metal to make stuff!!! I guess it's time to buckle down
and figure it out! 

I understand what you mean! I’m scared to death to order any
gold because I haven’t a clue as to what a DWT is! So, instead,
I order $50.00 worth of the stuff (did that only once after
seeing the tiny amount one gets for $50.00!) With silver, I
usually order either 3" X 6" pieces or 6" X6" squares of sheet.
With wire, I’ll either order the minimums or multiply the
minimums by two or three times to get the amount I think I’ll
need. This way, I have a much better idea of how much I order
(Indian Jeweler’s Supply gives inches, or feet per ounce which
also helps!)


#3

hi all,

a dwt, the abbreviation of pennyweight = 1.5552 grams. there are
20 dwts in a troy oz.

i believe this system is designed to confuse so know one knows
what we are talking about, even us.

best regards,

geo fox

Hanuman
The Ganoksin Project


#4

A pennyweight (abbr. dwt) is 1/20 of a troy ounce. Thus 5 dwt
is 1/4 oz. 10 dwt is 1/2 oz.

A troy ounce is 31 g.

1 dwt =1.55g

In a perfect world we would all use the same method to express
weight, but we live in this world.

if a = b and b = c, then we’ve got a messed up alphabet

Bobert


#5
I understand what you mean!  I'm scared to death to order any
gold because I haven't a clue as to what a DWT is!  So, instead,
I order $50.00 worth of the stuff (did that only once after
seeing the tiny amount one gets for $50.00!) With silver, I
usually order either 3" X 6" pieces or 6" X6" squares  of sheet.
With wire, I'll either order the minimums or multiply the
minimums by two or three times to get the amount I think I'll
need.    This way, I have a much better idea of how much I order

Ah, so I’m not alone;-) I kept telling myself~~someday I’ll
figure it out. But if I can order it another way, why not ? :wink:
LOL

(Indian Jeweler's Supply gives inches, or feet per ounce which
also helps!

"I’ve had many recommendations for them. I think I’ll try them
and Stuller’s next. No more Rio silver for me =-)

Kathie


#6

Hi Folks,

A little history here. Just as 1 inch was the length of his
last digit on the kings thumb, 1 foot was the size of the kings
foot, 1 yard was the distance from his nose to the tip of his
outstretched hand, a pennyweight(dwt.) was the weight of gold
equal to the weight of a copper or bronze coin much in use at
the time. There are 24 grains in a pennyweight, 20 pennyweight
in an ounce and 12 ounces in a pound. These are troy weights and
I suspect, are somehow related to(or vice versa) the
incomprehensible British monetary system prior to its
decimalization.

Regards,

Skip

                                  Skip Meister
                                NRA Endowment and
                                   Instructor
                                @Skip_Meister
                                10/20/9714:10:08

#7
I understand what you mean!  I'm scared to death to order any
gold because I haven't a clue as to what a DWT is!  

This stuff is really QUITE simple.

"dwt" is an abbreviation for "pennyweight".  It is spelled
"dwt" instead of "pwt" because it comes from medieval times,
when jewellers couln't spel goodly.  And besides, "pwt" is a
bit too easy to get confused with "PeWTer", which, as anybody
knows, is a rather common (i.e., cheap) metal.  Who wants to
buy a very expensive metal like gold if it's measured in
"pewters"?  

Now then, there are 20 dwt (pennyweight ... or is it 
pennyweights ... or maybe pennies-weight?) in an ounce.  Well,
no, ... not really.  See, there are 20 dwt in a "TROY" ounce. 


A TROY ounce is different than a "regular" ounce, in that
there are only 10 of them in a pound. ... er ... that is,
there are 10 "Troy ounces" (often abbreviated "Trounces" in
Renaissance England, thus giving rise to the verb "to
trounce", meaning to pelt with heavy metal.  Of course, lead
was and is more popular for this task, but I digress.)  

As I was saying, there are 10 Troy Ounces in a Troy Pound.  Of
course a Troy Pound is equal to only about 13.56 good ol'
regular ounces, (give or take).  Some unscrupulous metals
dealers dreamed this up during the Holy Roman Empire, as a way
to avoid paying their full taxes.  

When the Emperor's tax collectors caught on to the scam, the
jewelers were summoned before the Emperor Constantine. 
Knowing that "Connie" (as his friends called him) had been
brutalized as a wee lad by being forced to read the Illyiad in
its original Greek, the jewelers told him that they had been
defrauded by some metals merchants from Troy.  

With a tear in his eye, the mighty Emperor of the Known 
World pardened the jewelers, and promptly declared war 
on Persia in retaliation.  Emperor Connie knew perfectly well
that Persia had nothing to do with the whole thing, but, it
had access to massive quantities of spices, silks, and
while Troy had a lot of rock.  

See how simple it is?

Tom

#8

Hey TroopAs a present day gold miner with many a nugget I would
like to pass on that there are 12 troy ounce to a troy pound.
Great web site this and yours. Adrian ALLGEM


#9
This stuff is really QUITE simple.  "dwt" is an abbreviation
for "pennyweight".  It is spelled "dwt" instead of "pwt"
because it comes from medieval times, when jewellers couln't
spel goodly.  And besides, "pwt" is a bit too easy to get
confused with "PeWTer", which, as anybody >> . . .etc.

Tom, thank you for the entire explaination! I’ve made a hard
copy of what you wrote, and will keep it handy (and maybe even,
pass out copies to friends!!!)

Thank you, thank you , thank you! : )