Hi John, I will appreciate receiving a copy. Thank you very very
much. Alma (arands@comcast. net)
Are you 'me-too-please' people asking for a copy aware that there is a copyright for magazine articles?
I am taking the bet that any of you would cry loud if anyone "steals" one of your precious designs. But ignoring other people's copyright is fine?
Well, as it happens, Iāve had several of my designs published in
magazines, and I have no problems with them being copied. In fact, I
published them because I thought people might be interested enough
to want to copy them. In other words, publishing them effectively
gave my permission.
But, I would be less than happy if unpublished designs were copied
without my permission.
Regards, Gary Wooding
If this wasnāt available online, I could understand passing around
the out of print info. However, a little bird called āGoogleā told
me that the LJ publisher has released a digital edition of this
issue for sale at the ever-so-cheap price of $5 which I suggest you
all purchaseā¦because after all, we donāt want anyone stealing
OUR intellectual property now do we? Besides. it helps support
future publishing of articles weād all like to continue reading.
Buy it here: http://www.ganoksin.com/gnkurl/ep80ew
Looking for free info? Youāre in luck! Here is a very nice FREE pdf
of how to rivet. Posted by the very generous Deb Jemmot who also has
made a cool riveting block that she sells.
This is the PDF: http://www.ganoksin.com/gnkurl/ep80ex
This is where you can get Debās riveting block. I have zero
affiliation with Deb or her company. I donāt even know her.
http://www.ganoksin.com/gnkurl/ep80ey
I think she has a book on riveting somewhere in there too.
Lisa (We have flash flood warnings in Los Angeles. In July. Huh?)
Topanga, CA, USA
Lisa Bialac-Jehle
byzantia.com
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The author of the article is well aware that by putting it in the
public domain, it will be used by folk who want to make their
rivetting easier.
thats not the same as reproduction of the article for monetary gain,
which is what copyright is intended to protect against.
I think many, many people would like to get a copy. Maybe putting it on orchid would help all of us share this exciting info.
You know being 12 hours away is interesting when other people think
the same kinds of things 
CIA
Maybe you could put it in a blog, and people that want to access it
can, Iād be interested in seeing also.
Regards Charles A.
I to would like to be on the list for the riveting jig. Thank you in
advance @George_Poblocki
Can I also be included in how to make the riveting gig? Linda Reboh
my email is CosmicCreations at live.com
maybe it needs to be added to the site somehow for future reference if you are willing?
I think itās LJ/JA that has to be willing, not John. Get the digital
back issue for $5 at http://www.ganoksin.com/gnkurl/ep80ew and you
wonāt have to watch over your shoulder for the magazineās lawyers.
Al Balmer
Have any of you made one of these and can attest to their benefit?
Also, if you use one, do you feel it could be sawed square and still
be as useful as the curved design? I donāt have access to any
equipment to do that.
thx,
brenda
The author of the article is well aware that by putting it in the public domain, it will be used by folk who want to make their rivetting easier.
thats not the same as reproduction of the article for monetary gain, which is what copyright is intended to protect against.
Lisaās reply is very good, especially the pdf on riveting.
However a riveting block is not a rivetting jig.
so im going to guess here that the article might, I say might just
be outlining a means of locating the 2 riveting tools, needed to set
the rivet.
So in the absence of any posting of the article on this forum I would
make such a jig as follows.
Id take a substantial āCā clamp, the wide gap variety, say with a
throat of 4 in and depth of 4 also. A forged steel one not cast
iron.
Remove the treaded screw and measure its dia.
Find or turn up a smooth sided rod in a bit of hardenable steel say
6 in long, thats a nice slide fit in the treaded part of the clamp.
Make one end tapered with a half round depression in it to form the
rivet head.
then for the other end of the āCā clamp weld on a short piece of
1/4in wall thickness tube with say a 1/2in hole in it.
make up a hardenable block of steel with a half round dimple in it
to match the rod described above with a short length of rod
underneath it to register in the afforementioned tube. Best turned up
in a lathe out of a piece of drive shaft or drill rod.
Then assuming you have both the dimples aligned up accurately. There
are a no of ways to do this, whatever you find is best.
Id make up a round nosed punch and use the top of the clamp as the
register and hammer down into the support block to form the dimple.
THEN harden it.
Put you metal to be joined with the rivet on the bottom of the jig,
place the rod on the rivet stub sticking out and tap down on the rod
till the rivet is set.
Make up several sets of rods and blocks to suit different rivet
heads.
You hold the jig in a proper leg vice to support it.
If your going to set rivets from 1/8 to 1/4 in dia you will need to
weld a support leg on the base of the clamp to hold it in the vice.
And a suitably weighted hammer.
If you have a fly press then you can make up similar tooling to fit.
If you have all the metal drilled with the rivet placed, then you
should with this jig be able to set at least 100 an hour.
Time is money.
Lapidary Journal Jewelry Artist, March 2010 has a home jig article.
Just got a digital copy for $5.
The author of the article is well aware that by putting it in the public domain, it will be used by folk who want to make their rivetting easier.
thats not the same as reproduction of the article for monetary gain, which is what copyright is intended to protect against.
An unfortunately common misconception. The material is not in the
public domain, and copyright is intended to protect against
unauthorized distribution whether or not there is monetary gain. In
this case, there is a monetary issue, since the magazine sells the
back issuesā¦ Accurate on copyright is easily available.
Go to copyright.gov and spend a few minutes educating yourself.
Al Balmer
The author of the article is well aware that by putting it in the public domain, it will be used by folk who want to make their rivetting easier.
The author of the article does not have much of a say as it is the
publishing company that holds the rights to the content (as printed)
in its magazine. This is NOT public domain. In fact distributing
this article online for free could be seen by the publisher as
circumventing their rightful ability to profit from their
copyrighted material. The publisher could easily show monetary loss
from this completely unauthorized and unlicensed distributionā¦
ā¦Which is what winning lawsuits are founded on.
Stop stealingā¦ go spend the $5.
Lisa (Having worked extensively with a copyright lawyer in the past
has helpful l benefits. PS: New studio around two days
away from finished!) Topanga, CA, USA
If the author doesnt want the to be available for all
and sundry to read, then he shouldnt publish it.
Yes if you want a printed copy of the original then its subject to
the copyright rules.
If all you want to do is make up the jig for your own use then
theres nothing the copyright holder can do about it.
How about all the magazines like practical mechanics ? full of do it
yourself articles? Sorry, I reserve the right to differ.
Copyright cant have it both ways.
Intellectual property is considered in the public domain when the
individual copyright has expired or forfeited for some reason. The
bible would be in the public domain. Shakespeareās plays would be in
the public domain.
Barbara
Youāre argument confuses copyrights with patents. The in
the article cannot be copyrighted, but the device described could be
patented, which would enjoin you from making one for yourself.
The particular expression of the -the printed article,
the illustrations, and the exact wording of the articleāis
copyrighted and so may not be reproduced without the rights holderās
permission. Making photocopies of an article not in the public domain
is copyright infringement. Odds are against your being sued, but $5
is little to pay if the device is really useful.
If someone were to paraphrase the article and make their own
drawings of the device and the steps necessary to construct it they
could distribute that as freely as they like, assuming the device is
not, in fact, patented.
Elliot Nesterman
Barbara,
Good points that I think miss the mark. Ā© I believe lasts for 75
years. So there it stands to reason that Shakespeare and the Bible
are in the public domain.
what would the reason this article is in the public domain? I do not
speak of the jig itself, but rather the article itself.
BTW, I think the author should care, if the publishing company is
making money by selling the info for $5 a copy, then the author
should be getting residuals. JMO