Gypsy ring fabrication

Hello all, I have a client wanting a Gypsy style solitare and I’m debating the most cost effective fabrication techniques. I know I would be able to carve a wax and have it cast, but I’ve worked with so many that I know have been assemble and I’m curious about the process. Are there resources available online to learn about the assembly process? I have pitch and enough dapping and hammering tools to form the shape I think. Just never seen it in practice. Is there anyone here who has hollow formed these styles of rings before?

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Welcome to orchid. I don’t do this type of work, but those who do will want to know what size the stone is and what kind it is before they can reply. There are a lot of online resources, both text and video, that will show you how to do a Gypsy setting. You can also do a search of the ganoksin learning library. To some extent, the size of the stone will drive the design of the setting since the culet can’t project below the inside or body side of the setting. Hopefully others who do this kind of work will reply, but provide them with more information first. Good luck…Rob

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Hi,

I am thinking you want a “fabricated hollow signet ring” shank, with a “gypsy setting stone setting” in the center.

try searching each of those individually…

https://m.youtube.com/results?sp=mAEA&search_query=fabricated+hollow+signet+ring

julie

Thank you! That hollow form signet was very helpful, though I wish they had included the method for measuring the bone. I will be setting a 17mm x 9.5 cab lengthwise I am very familiar with the setting portion, but have never formed a ring that way! I feel like I can math out the measurement for the opening, but I’m not sure about the taper from the wings to the shank.

Hi,

perhaps take a piece of paper…put masking tape strips over the paper to strengthen it, and cut out pattern(s) and test…you can make adjustments by cutting/ slicing thru the paper and taping to make area bigger/ smaller…use sharpie marker to visualise curves before cutting…rinse…repeat

alsi, in metal sample, make shank wider, can gile shap e finger hole/ shoulder shape after goring into ring shape…if ring size is too big you can cut the shank to resize then solder…

keep duplicate paper patterns and measurement notes as you go

so…17mm x 9.5mm cab…
17+9.5=26.5mm / 2= 13.25 diameter City+ bezel metal thickness We…
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lets say 1.5mm thick

so, 13.25+1.5= 14.75 x 3.14= 46.32mm circumference/ length around cab…may need to add 1.5mm thickness 2 times…

so, each side top edge of the T would be around
46.32/2= 23.16mm (to wrap around cab

julie

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hi,
also consider polishing strips such as mentioned in the below post

note the different ways to hold the strips and polish with them

search…jura…and they are also sold as dental supplies also…you want a strip with a durable yet cut-able backing…they also do sell stainless steel and metal versions but the width cannot be cut/ adjusted…

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Love the taped paper idea. Will definitely experiment with that. Thank you!

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Hi,

in a related note, check out “classicalgemhunter” on instagram…

i recently saw a ring that had a similar vibe to a hollow form signet, but instead it had a domed button type top, on a separate shank…

i believe the domed top has a subtle repousse detailing
and gorgeous sapphire…gorgeous piece!

this account has beautiful things!

julie

I will definitely play around with designs like that. Love the saucer setting. I know this ring is intended to be a single sheet, but I will test that on some of my pieces. Would be awesome for a bolo too.

Post pictures and sketches if you have any, I’d love to see what you get up to with this. Another idea in line with the paper with the tape is to use construction paper or cardboard stock that is close to the material thickness. It may need to be slightly damp to flex into a tight radius.

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Can do. I was definitely thinking towards some alternative materials that might hold their shape better. Thought about clay, but that would reform too easily. I have some extra copper sheet though so I’ll probably play around with that after the paper. Will be testing it out today.

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Do you use Rhino? You could import this and adjust it to your specs, then print it out to test it.

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