It's a bad idea to post anything about your lack of security to any online forum wherein you use your *real*
Depending on the forum, you shouldn’t feel too safe. You might be
surprised at how much tracking there is in an email, and
if a bad guy can figure out where you are, he doesn’t care about your
name. I think Orchid is probably safe, since it’s a remailer which
strips the original
Al Balmer
Pine City, NY
I've been debating getting a concealed carry permit just for shows, but wasn't sure how that works when you cross into other states.
Depends on the state. In Arizona, you don’t even need a CC permit.
This is a common question for RV travelers, so you can probably find
an RV website with But the best thing is to contact the
state police of your destination and any states you will travel
through. They will give you up-to-date You can usually
carry a weapon through even anti-gun states if it is disassembled
and stored where you can’t get to both the weapon and the ammo at the
same time. Alternatively, you can ship the weapon to your
destination. But ask. Especially now, things can change quickly.
BTW, some states have reciprocity on permits, some don’t.
Al Balmer
Pine City, NY
Beth
I've been debating getting a concealed carry permit just for shows, but wasn't sure how that works when you cross into other states.
It’s interesting about worrying when setting up and tearing down
from shows. Just this past week in Nelson, BC, Canada, someone
shopping at Walmart closed but did not lock her car to just put the
cart back in the corral. In the minute and a half her back was turned
someone stole the purse from the front seat of the car. Nelson is
only about 20,000 people of mostly hippy/artist types.
Most people here think we are strange for even locking our car while
we take things into a show. I stay with the table and the first load
and my husband does the schlubing. Unless of course he isn’t feeling
well, then roles reverse. This works as I know my stock and he feels
protective.
Karen
There are lots of reasons for and against being armed, and while it’s
true you don’t know how you will react until you are in a life and
death situation, it’s better to be prepared for it then not. Call me
Mr. Unlucky, but I have been in the situation multiple times. The
first time I was unarmed, I survived unharmed, but it was tense and
close - and it taught me a valuablelesson. It’s better to come to a
gun fight with a loaded weapon than it isto be in one where all you
have is your wits and your fists, you are already at a disadvantage
because of the surprise and adrenaline surge. As others have said if
you decide to carry, by all means practice and get all the training
you can, enter into practical shooting competitions, just the
practice alone will help. If you need some help visualizing then
drink 4-5 energy shots then try to shoot the target, big difference
over what you normally could do at the same target. As for
ammunition, forget the rat shot, it’s for rats and snakes not people,
the last thing I want is for someone I just shot to be more pissed
off atme, which is what a chest shot is gonna do. Now they are really
gonna have reason to open up on you. If you are in a situation where
you have to use deadly force the deadlier the better, that doesn’t
mean to use the elephant gun grandpa left to you, it’s for elephants.
You need the right weapon for the job, shotguns with buck shot are
nice, but they are hard to control for some people, pistols are also
contentious for some people, so whatever the choice use what you are
comfortable with and practice with it. As for the legalities, know
the limits of the law. I use to travel in 5 states selling diamonds,
color, and delivery jewelry, I was illegally armed in 3 of those
states, but according to my attorney, it’s better to be a live
defendant than a dead victim.
You also have to judge your circumstances, a mall store or store in
a stripcenter has far different liabilities to contend with
collateral damage than an isolated store. I owned both, and I had a
strict no arms policy in my mall store and my ‘main’ store was in a
renovated Edwardian home, 45 miles from the city. I had an air lock
entry and no less than 6 armed employees. The mall store had issues
with grab & runs (2 in 12 years), the main store was the subject of
one armed robbery, the attempt was thoroughly botched bythe
perpetrators, they surrendered to us with out a shot being fired
when they faced 3 double barreled shotguns and 3.44 cal pistols, and
2 more shotguns were pointed at them from my shop crew. We were well
trained and I had drills 2x a week for what to do in just that sort
of scenario, employees treated it serious. In the 18 years I owned
the store, we had just that oneattempt when the store was 2 years
new. When you have an occasion like this it establishes a reputation
in the criminal community, that although you are isolated you are
NOT EASY. Never had any other issue with that store at all, not even
after hours burglaries (which was my main concern).
Whatever you decide, take it serious. Learn to avoid bad situations,
but also know that we are targets and sometimes the criminal element
study us andour weaknesses, so make it harder on them, don’t get
entrenched in a routine. Examine your safety and security and act
appropriately.
Regards,
Dallas Meloon
I have thought long and hard about posting this message. This thread
brings back some unhappy memories that after 42 years still linger.
First let me say that I’m impressed with the thoughts expressed on
this thread, especially by James Binnion, John Donivan, and David
Phelps. I think that they have covered some extremely important
issues, and I don’t disagree with anything they’ve said.
With that said, let me begin by saying that although I’m a
silversmith, I don’t own a brick and mortar store, nor do I make my
living at this though I’ve been at it for 20 yrs. I can still
understand the fears, anxiety, and concerns expressed by the other
posters. I’m actually a retired Texas Peace Officer, a police officer
of Fort Worth, Tarrant County, Texas with almost 30 yrs of service.
Our city/county has a population of 800,000/almost 2 million
(county), no small town. I’ve seen and/or experienced almost
everything you fear. One of the thoughts I want to leave you is that
during these years I attended somewhere between 20-25 funerals of
slain peace officers, most killed by assailants using a firearm. The
point being that each of these men were armed, highly trained, and
with a mentality of being able to use deadly force, still they were
slain.
In 1971, I too was a victim of an armed assailant, shot while trying
to arrest him for killing his mother, father, sister and brother. I
too was armed, highly trained and still a victim, so was my partner
and field supervisor armed, highly trained. From cover, they fired
12 rounds and hit my assailant one time. The adrenalin rush affects
us all. The second thought I would leave you is that when a
highjacker/armed robber enters your store, he will display his
weapon first, this is how he tells you that he wants what you have
and to create fear and obedience to his demands. It’s already too
late to reach for your weapon. I assure you that at this point
pandemonium will break out and more than the actor will be injured
and/or killed if YOU began shooting inside the store.
Six yrs after my shooting incident, a brother officer of mine was
shot and killed on my call (he was my backup) by an armed assailant,
again both of us were armed, etc. Death visited me again.
Folks, there is no amount of silver and gold and precious gems that
are worth leaving your wife/husband widowed and your children
orphans. Go home at the end of the watch.
I have been a member of Orchid since its inception and treasure each
of you dearly and my greatest hope is that something that has been
posted on this forum will assist you in making a wise decision
regarding arming yourself and the using of deadly force. I am and
will always remain a staunch supporter of our 2nd Amendment rights,
but with that right comes an awesome responsibility.
Wishing you well, I remain your servant,
John Barton
Never reach for a gun in a hostile situation unless you have decided
The other person will assume you have made that decision when you go
for the gun and will act accordingly. This may include killing you
to save themselves.
That’s the 2nd rule of handling guns my father taught me.
would tasers be a better solution than guns in a jewellery store
As in your anecdote, tasers are sufficient if the perp is not armed.
Inadequate if he is.
Al Balmer
Pine City, NY
Hi Al and others
Good point. Buzzer exits. But fire in building, power is cut. How do
you get out?
Rat shot no good? Have you seen what this stuff does? Not much left
of a rat.
But OK all you weekend dirty harrys. Fact is you won’t hit the side
of a barn when the “adrenaline dump” hits you. This will last 2 to 3
minutes and you will shake and may go into shock.
If your shop is full of customers who you going to hit?
If you really want to stop an armed aggressor, a short barreled shot
gun with 12 gauge will do it.
If you do carry enough stock to make you worry why don’t you have a
professional security guard or two? Tax deductible business expense.
Plenty of ex marines and Seals who really know what they are doing
and work in the security industry.
There are also some very skilled women out there. A friend of mine is
a small very feminine little “girl” works as personal body guard. You
would never know to look at her. Threaten her principle (person she
is guarding) and before you know it she will have gouged your eye,
ripped your throat out or blown you away. Just the person I would
have in my shop to keep ME safe if I had few hundred thousand dollars
or more of stock.
A course in self defense and firearms is not a big investment. Even
if you decide not to be armed, you’ll be educated.
Good point but better to do unarmed combat classes, note not martial
arts BS, the real thing.
Now I do not wont to start a post on martial arts vs unarmed combat.
If you are a gung ho martial artist and think you are a Chuck Norris
piss of a marine/seal/SAS and see how long you last. It will only be
seconds.
Google Captain W E Fairburn Get Tough.
This stuff is deadly and works and takes only weeks to learn not
years to get a black belt.
My father in law a major in the British Army bet his life on this
more than once in WWII.
After 24 weeks of training Malcolm Harris (British Police combat
instructor) took his class to the local Karate Dojo, those police
really made a mess of the martial arts “experts”.
Best advice pay your insurance and tell them “I only work here. Take
what you want. I don’t give a @#ht!”
Thinking of wearing a kevlar vest under your clothes? No good for a
head shot.
Still want to carry a gun, guess what, it will never end well.
A serious armed robber if they think you are armed, will shoot
first! They will also look like a customer, good suit, hair cut etc.
No one who has fired in a robbery has posted, wonder why? Still in
court?
Keep safe.
Richard.
Beth,
Even with a concealed carry permit, you need to be very careful
concerning individual state and local laws.
There are books that on a yearly basis list the different gun laws
on a state by state basis.
I also call the local chief of police and the state police to find
how, what, and how I should transport my firearm - if it is even
permitted, etc.
The laws can be confusing. For example, pepper spray is banned in
some northern states along with tasers and stun guns.
Some states do not permit pocket knifes of any length. Or batons.
Some states, while not permitting concealed carry, do allow you to
transport and possess a firearm for self defense in your hotel room.
One state, if I notify them 30 days in advance and pay a small fee,
will issue a temporary permit to go with my permanent (5 year
renewal) permit from my state, so as to be legal in their state.
In one state that I pass through on the way to a show, one of my
customers who is from that state and who is law enforcement, said
that basically anything I could carry to protect myself in that
state was not permitted, including firearms. He then said, of course
if you are concerned about bee stings, there is nothing wrong with
carrying a can of hornet spray in your show vehicle and that it was
not illegal.
Even in those states that outright ban concealed carry, I have been
amazed at the positive responses I usually receive from the local
authorities simply by calling and asking for advice.
As a side note, they are also a wealth of as to what
hotels and parts of town to avoid.
I work hard at being legal and at representing people who carry
legally and responsibly.
If concealed carry is not permitted in a particular state, then I do
not carry in that manner.
(that is where the german shepherd comes in) I would prefer to never
have to use it, but will if no other option is available. And yes -
I have had to pull it on one occasion.
To that end, I agree with several of the posters on this issue that
nothing beats practice, practice, and even more practice. And not
just at a range shooting paper targets.
I shoot several thousand rounds yearly in both pistols I use for
concealed carry and in the studio’s firearm.
I have a yearly membership at the range - and use it frequently.
I was fortunate growing up. My grandfather was a marksman in the
military and both of my parents loved to shoot.
I grew up around guns and learned that they were not toys and could
harm or kill people or animals if not handled correctly.
It was impressed on me early that it was as much a responsibility as
a right to own a gun.
If you choose to carry, it is an awesome and scary responsibility.
Do it wisely.
Every body has to make their own decision with respect to what they
would do and what they are prepared to lose - before they pick up a
firearm. I cannot do it for you. With me, I simply look at my family
and apprentices and then remember - Buchenwald.
Where my relatives were murdered.
Do not do it lightly.
Jeffrey
traditional silver and gold smith
PS Love the name of your studio!
Castle Doctrine means an individual has no duty to retreat when in his or her home, or "castle," and may use reasonable force, including deadly force, to defend his or her property, person, or another. Some states extend this to your car or place of work.
Thank You, Thank You, Al…
For some reason the Media has gotten these two concepts screwed
up… In many cases, for the sake of sensationalism only, I
suspect…
Should you have to retreat your home… Because some creep wishes
to harm you…
Castle Doctrine. It’s a very reasonable idea, if one thinks about
it…
Furthermore, once a self defense act falls under Castle Doctrine,
civil lawsuit goes down the tubes…Is usually built into the
legislation…Has no grounds for suit, no matter which bottom slime
feeding slime ball ambulance chasing attorney grabs at it… I’ll let
you guess who fought against Castle Doctrin…
We acquired Castle Doctrine only recently in Wisconsin… In any
forum where I ran across folks objecting to it… I explained to the
objectors, them an easy solution as to the law never affecting
anyone…
Stop breaking into, home invading, etc. other folks’ places…
And you will never be affected by this Law…
Gary W. Bourbonais
L’Hermite Aromatique
A. J.P. (GIA)
You can usually carry a weapon through even anti-gun states if it is disassembled and stored where you can't get to both the weapon and the ammo at the same time.
Yikes. I’m dumbfounded by that. Usually? A few east-coast states
have a mandatory one-year jail sentence for non-residents who bring a
gun into their state. Usually, except for… Find out for sure, for
each state you will pass through, or don’t even think about it.
Neil A.
John your article is extremely interesting. My brother and I were
held up at gun point in our “Jewellers Shop” in 1969. The thief had
a gun, we could do nothing about it. He made us lie on the floor and
then pistol whipped us, thinking he had knocked us out we lay still,
blood everywhere. The police found bullets which had fallen on the
floor after our “Pistol Whipping” and the were “Dum Dum” bullets.
Fortunately he had not knocked us out so as soon as his back was
turned we shot out of the back door. I got in the car and drove
round to the front of the shop to try and run him over, he had gone.
The police said if I had tried to do that I could have been shot or
pedestrians could have been involved. Had we had a gun we would not
have been able to use it. It was best we were not armed, so it did
not escalate and we went to hospital and had a giggle with the
nurses. Very young then. Mind you I still have giggle with the
nurses when I go to hospital.
Is it really called the "Make My Day" lawe? That's really scary :-O
Well, I can’t say it states “Make My Day” law on the books. But it
was signed into law in Colorado in 1985 when the Clint Eastwood
“Dirty Harry” movies were still in vogue and is still referred to in
the media as the “Make My Day” law. And it has made for some
interesting litigation and in one instance a jury found it covered a
resident shooting someone halfway down the street. Of course
recently a couple tried to use the law to bate an ex-spouse to come
to their house and shot and killed him to resolve a child custody
dispute. They are being tried for murder.
The law in the Colorado State House that provides the same protection
to businesses as the “Make My Day” law provides residents has been
called the “Make My Day Better” bill. Still I can’t attest to that
specific language in the bill.
I would like to take a moment and praise the Orchid community as a
whole for their decorum on this topic. Given recent events in the US
this is definitely a hot button topic and was rife for turning into
a, dare I say it… ^$*#@ contest. Good job my friends!
Rick Copeland
Colorado
Wow John! Your words say it well and are given more weight by your
knowledge and experience as a peace officer.
We too have guns for hunting and trap shooting. I personally, enjoy
target shooting. HOWEVER, we have no need for an automatic weapon or
for one that can be swiftly reloaded with an extended magazine.
Those are military weapons and belong in those hands - I believe the
police and sheriff departments are considered military.
I agree with your posting, and thank you for sharing.
Judy in Kansas, who only hunts tin cans in front of a pile of dirt.
Just some stray thoughts. Here in America the issue of guns is your
basic circular thread, no matter what the focus.
I learned to shoot with my Model 12 pump. It cost about $20 new and
now it’s a thousand dollar rifle - one of those that DID weather the
years.
Those double door things people keep mentioning are called “man
traps”, BTW.
A guy down the hall from our old place had a man trap and guns. He
was robbed by a fake Fedex delivery man. Most of the robberies I’ve
ever heard of happened in a minute or two - big gun right in your
face, gimme dat, out the door. Nothing against what people think or
want to feel about security, but the idea that somehow you’re going
to have any opportunity to do anything but fork over the goods is
largely a fantasy.
Charlie - great post. Scary, but the whole topic is scary. I agree
with most of your points, except to point out that I would far
rather be fighting for my life to a speculative jury, than laid out
in the morgue.
I am VERy curios what the first five words you should say to the
police are!
As a former bank teller, I believe in not trapping potential
violence anywhere near me - get them AWAY for the safety of all
concerned, THEn worry about catching them. Cornered weasels FIGHT!
That was my bank’s policy when I was robbed, and we all came out OK.
An eye opener for all was that under the gun, I avoided the triggers
we were careful around daily, like the alarmed bill trap, but the
ones we handled, like the dye pack and the marked bills, went right
into his bag. The silent alarm trigger was placed several feet away
and inaccessible under armed threat.
My father, a policeman, subjected me to a very effective training
exercise. After comparing several handguns for weight, kick and
firing action, I chose my gun. We both checked it (empty), then he
had me put it in my pocket, while he rushed me from what I thought
was a reasonable distance. It took me SO much longer to draw, to
even raise the gun, than I would ever have guessed. He then started
from further back. The point? This exercise gave me a concrete
spatial RULE, which has served me well in at least 2 incidents,
where I directed the threat to come no closer - again, much further
away than I would have previously thought. And, once you’ve drawn
down on your own father multiple times, it’s easier to draw down on
a threatening stranger. Sort of breaks down a barrier, at least for
me. I have been shooting since I was child, range, target, hunting,
am very comfortable with guns, but this training was still very
eye-opening. Consider adding a real-time scenario with EMPTY (triple
checked) guns, to your store’s safety training. You might be
surprised at the time it takes (you, or your trained employees) to
get to the gun, the alarm, whatever. Plus realistic scenarios give
your employees what leadership training calls ‘emotional slides’ -
easier to access under stress than simple instruction.
A final thought - signs and bumperstickers proclaiming “these
premises protected by Smith & Wesson” may or may not deter a threat,
but they definitely advertise the perceived defense (thus removing
any element of surprise) and they also advertise valuables in your
absence - GUNs, for example. Just sayin’
Blessings,
Sam Kaffine
sterling bliss, llc
Thank you for your service, John Barton. You have been very eloquent
in your posting. As a Canadian and as a person who is totally
against individual gun ownership of any kind, may I also ask that
should you visit my country in your rv (which I read on another
post), please leave your guns at home. I don’t care how many pieces
your gun is in and how far apart the pieces at from your ammunition,
it will be confiscated at the border if found and you also risk your
rv being impounded as well. Not to mention charges. I don’t
understand the attachment that people have to guns and although I can
foresee a society where I MIGHT want access to a firearm for
protection, I believe that society is not here yet. Money, sparkly
gems or flashy metals are not worth a person’s life. May I ask each
of you who are contemplating buying a gun to go home and ask your
wife or your children if they would rather have their wife/husband or
mother/father alive or would they rather have a handful of what is
essentially expensive bling. I can only HOPE I know the answer to
that.
If the answer isn’t what I hope it is, then I can only offer you my
sincere empathy. I’m not trying to stir the pot, but we have stores
now to buy meat; we have all kinds of security alarms and services.
If I were in a business where I had to live in an armed camp, I
would be planning to do something else. Not keen on being a prisoner
of anything. Hoping that each and every one of you is alive tomorrow
to post your questions and to share your learning - you are all very
special people and completely irreplaceable. I can replace the jewel
He/She is unique. And none of you look good riddled with lead. It’s
such a tacky base metal!!! 
Namaste.
Barbara on a blue sky island day
Security these days is a hard decision. What one may feel is
adequate another may find holes.
In another retail field shortly after I got married, I was put into
that chains management program. It was three months long of daily
classes. We had two weeks left when a corporate director came into
class and called me out of it. He told me to go home, I was going to
be a full manager at one of their more profitable stores starting
that night. Then he let the bomb go when he said the police should
be through with the crime scene investigation by 6 pm. I was informed
that they had been robbed that morning and the assistant and the
manager had been shot and killed with all the patrons and staff
locked into a small storage room. That was back before cell phones.
It also was near the Anaheim stadium in California.
That night we had plenty of looky loos and lots of police patrol.
All of my husband friends and he stood guard wearing big jackets to
look more threatening. I spent most the evening cleaning the office
where the safe was. Nothing more sobering than cleaning up blood. The
manager had given the robbers what they wanted. Had not argued and
politely opened the safe since we all had been taught not to question
just give them what they want. You never know.
I was 13 and alone home on a farm while my parents went to town. Our
nearest neighbor was 1/2 mile away. You had to access our farm by
driving over a rattly old bridge. That alerted me and gave me a few
minutes to think. A car with plates from a county in Nebraska to not
be a good neighborhood of so. Omaha, was slowly driving towards the
house. I was alone. I went to the corner where my dad kept our
shotgun and placed it right inside the front door. The two men got
out of the car and started towards the house. I stepped outside, just
as my dog sensed they were not proper. He attacked, and the one guy
kicked him so hard he ran away. That is when I grabbed the gun and
leveled it at them. I was scared spit less.
The man just laughed and his buddy made a crude remark. The bold one
said “You wouldn’t shoot me.” and kept coming. I let one barrel go
at his toes, lifted the gun to point at his midsection and said,
“Care to find out” and then I laughed, mostly because it was that or
cry. They ran back to their car, and I shot out the back window as
they drove away. I hurriedly reloaded the gun then sat on the steps
and cried. That is where my parent found me still cradling the gun
and my dog. I thank my brother and brother in law for all the times
they drug me out to learn how to shoot that darn gun.
My husband had just gotten a new job in Tucson. I was left behind in
Vegas to wait another three weeks until my daughter finished her
class for the year. We lived out in the country in North Las Vegas,
which is now all built out. a few nights after Dan had moved to
Tucson for his job, I was woken up by a car that had turned on the
small dirt road near our house to shine it’s headlights on the
house. I watched them back up slowly to where the gate to the
property was and drive in on another dirt road. No husband, Far
enough from town to not get help fast, our nearest neighbor was 1/4
mile away. No dogs. My kids were 6 and 3 years old. I had no guns in
the house. I grabbed by sons toy rifle that was almost full sized,
raced to the back door and flipped every switch for lights on as I
went and finally turning on all the outside lights. I stood in the
yard with the toy gun under my arm and visible. and starred right at
the car. They spun gravel and high tailed it back out the gate and
towards Vegas. A month after we moved I heard from a friend that the
house had been home invaded.
The man was beaten nearly to death his wife raped and murdered, and
their daughter along with everything of value was gone. I still don’t
know if they ever found the little girl.
Can I say I’m for against guns? I don’t know. I know how to use them
and periodically go target shooting. I have guns. I drive across
country to the USF twice a year. I’m alone and it is nearly 3000
miles some of which is through some very lonely country in Texas. So
far done without a gun with me. But who would bother a shabbily
dressed old lady driving a truck?
As to others who talk about the buzzer system I have a question, not
to be bad to good in tone. What do you do when you lock the burglar
in with you and they can’t get out? What is a desperate person going
to do when trapped? Are there any means for those in the shop to
protect themselves? If you had control of the buzzer, would they not
feel the need to harm you to get at that buzzer? Just questions?
I do know having been the only contact police had for a high end
jewelry store and keys to said store, I never walked home the same
way twice in ten days. I had to make drops at the bank in town as
well. I did it at various times. Vary your routine. Do not set
patterns.
I will echo that your life is not worth anything you may have in
your store or the one you work for. But you never know what will
happen even when you cooperate.
Now to lighten the mood. And for those who do not like old tour
guide jokes this is where you go to the next thread.
Teddy Roosevelt was a great sports hunter one of his favorite places
was the North Rim of the Grand Canyon. One day he got fed up with all
the entourage that always followed him because they scared the
animals off.
When they refused to leave, he pointed his gun at them and told them
to leave or he would shoot. Back then when he was president they did
leave him alone in the woods. That is when he realized he had
forgotten to get extra shells for his shot gun. He had two shots.
That’s when he heard horrible snarling over his left shoulder, and
there was the largest mountain ion he had ever seen. It was promptly
drowned out by a loud growl coming from the biggest grizzly bear
that was to his right. But not to be undone he looked in front of him
and there pawing the ground and snorting was the largest ever long
horn steer ready to charge him. He had only two shells and three
animals…
He turned to the right and shot the bear, the swiveled to his left
ans shot the cougar because he could always shoot the bull.
Hope you all make sound and intelligent choices.
Aggie the crazy old lady in a big truck
Hi Guys,
I’ve read in the paper (NY Times) that NY State has mandatory jail
time for anybody carrying an unregistered (with NY State) weapon,
even RV’ers traveling through. It was mentioned in an NY Times
article I was reading a few weeks ago. Didn’t seem to matter if it
was torn down, whatever. The article specifically mentioned RV’ers
running afoul of it.
To echo another comment, congrats to all for keeping the tone civil
and respectful.
To John Barton: Thank you for your service. I can’t think of
anything to say to your thoughtful post except “I’ve heard your
words, and will think deeply upon them.”
Regards,
Brian
Hi Sam,
As a former bank teller, I believe in not trapping potential violence anywhere near me - get them AWAY for the safety of all concerned, THEn worry about catching them.
I was a bank teller when I was much younger, and there was training
to deal with robberies.
We used to use scorpion devices thrown into the loot bag that would
explode and stain the money with a green dye. However we had to stop
using those because a thief put the loot down his pants and is
genitals were permanently stained green.
We were taught many strategies if a robber came into the branch, and
if they gained access into our area.
At the end of the day the bank policy was “give them the money”.
In our branch there were physical barriers, brb (bullet resistant
barrier), and secure doors. Security procedures were in place to let
staff in and out.
Although it was many years ago I still remember the procedures,
maybe they would work in a jewellery store?
Regards Charles A.