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#1

Forwarded Message FollowsFrom: jones@perigee.net (Bob Jones)
To: service@ganoksin.com
Subject: Wax Tools
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 01:14:50 -0500

Can anybody in internetland suggest any cheap home-made wax
working tools? I already have found the suggestions from the
BRAIN (Lewton, that is) for the ground off drill bit milling tool
and the Forged brass tool, but is there anything else that you
guys can think of?

In addition, I am going to try to rig a wax lathe with a 1/30 HP
(not 1/3 misprinted) motor I found. Will it work? How would you
hold the piece of wax for turning, either solid or holed ringwax?
I would appreciate any suggestions. Thanks.

Marshall T. Jones
jones@perigee.net


#2

Dr. E. Aspler wrote:


#3

Bob - I use old bike spokes mounted into wood dowel (for the handle).
Once mounted, I planish them flat, and then use my grinder or flex shaft
tools to shape them how I want. It’s easy to make a 1.6mm channel
cutter that will not only be at a level depth, but the exact same width
for the length of the channel. Also, dental tools can be reshaped with
good effect. The main (non file) wax tools that I use are gravers.
Next time you’re carving, pull out your gravers and love it! Happy
carvingk, Mike


#4

Talk to your dentist!!!.. get his/her old probes/picks… if you don’t
mind working with very evil tools! Some Leather working tools…, a Cuticle
remover is OK!, etc.

Jim

At 06:51 PM 10/30/96 +7, you wrote:

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#5

How is the wax mounted(held) in place, what sized motor and RPM??
jim

At 08:14 AM 10/30/96 -0600, you wrote:

Dr. E. Aspler wrote:

Forwarded Message Follows
From: jones@perigee.net (Bob Jones)
To: service@ganoksin.com
Subject: Wax Tools
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 01:14:50 -0500

Can anybody in internetland suggest any cheap home-made wax
working tools? I already have found the suggestions from the
BRAIN (Lewton, that is) for the ground off drill bit milling tool
and the Forged brass tool, but is there anything else that you
guys can think of?
In addition, I am going to try to rig a wax lathe with a 1/30 HP
(not 1/3 misprinted) motor I found.  Will it work?  How would you
hold the piece of wax for turning, either solid or holed ringwax?
 I would appreciate any suggestions.  Thanks.

Marshall T. Jones
jones@perigee.net

Have you tried useing nickle silver rods forged and shaped? I assume that
you are using the addition technique. There are only two techniques,
addition and subtraction!The method used most often is with a flex shaft and
burrs of varios sizes and shapes, also a straight blade scalpel comes in handy.


#6

Marshall,

I once tool a wax carving class where the instructor had the students
make tools out of nails which the student hammered flat and then shaped
the end with a file. Then a piece of wodden dowel was drilled to push
the round end to the nail into. Seemed to work fine for most students.
In doing this you could shape the nails to make mini tools which simulate
woodworking tools.

Also, there are a bunch of different waxes out there. Some probably work
well in the situation your investigating. Maves makes 3 different
hardnesses of wax, the hardest of which would probably work well for your
use. I would check with some dental lab supply houses.

Richard


#7

Marshall,

I have a stand for a ‘ring sizer’ … made out of metal… could construct
some sort of portable arrangement using the brase to hold the real ‘guts’ of
the lathe …

Speed… what should the RPM be… for the averate motor it is 1750 which I
assume must be to fast for a Wax lathe…

Power Soucce . . should be DC??? for portablabiltiy or a samll transformer
such as you get for most DC driven thingy today… should provide the
right power as well as RPM???

What Say???
At 06:51 PM 10/30/96 +7, you wrote:

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#8

Jim Chambers wrote:

Marshall,

I have a stand for a ‘ring sizer’ … made out of metal… could construct
some sort of portable arrangement using the brase to hold the real ‘guts’ of
the lathe …

Speed… what should the RPM be… for the averate motor it is 1750 which I
assume must be to fast for a Wax lathe…

Power Soucce . . should be DC??? for portablabiltiy or a samll transformer
such as you get for most DC driven thingy today… should provide the
right power as well as RPM???

What Say???
At 06:51 PM 10/30/96 +7, you wrote:

Forwarded Message Follows

From: jones@perigee.net (Bob Jones)
To: service@ganoksin.com
Subject: Wax Tools
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 01:14:50 -0500

Can anybody in internetland suggest any cheap home-made wax
working tools? I already have found the suggestions from the
BRAIN (Lewton, that is) for the ground off drill bit milling tool
and the Forged brass tool, but is there anything else that you
guys can think of?

In addition, I am going to try to rig a wax lathe with a 1/30 HP
(not 1/3 misprinted) motor I found. Will it work? How would you
hold the piece of wax for turning, either solid or holed ringwax?
I would appreciate any suggestions. Thanks.

Marshall T. Jones
jones@perigee.net

orchid@ganoksin.com

orchid@ganoksin.com

There is a fairly simple one that works on a flex shaft machine and it
allows the operator to control the speed the same way one would control
the flex shaft …It uses the handpiece I think it is a Foredom 54 with
a drill type chuck and is just a U shaped metal thing with a screw clamp
spot to hold different bits/cutters.It takes wax ring tubes and I have
seen good homemade ones as well as the commercial version which is quite
costly in my opinion…


#9

G.Chando Gilmore wrote:

Jim Chambers wrote:

Marshall,

I have a stand for a ‘ring sizer’ … made out of metal… could construct
some sort of portable arrangement using the brase to hold the real ‘guts’ of
the lathe …

Speed… what should the RPM be… for the averate motor it is 1750 which I
assume must be to fast for a Wax lathe…

Power Soucce . . should be DC??? for portablabiltiy or a samll transformer
such as you get for most DC driven thingy today… should provide the
right power as well as RPM???

What Say???
At 06:51 PM 10/30/96 +7, you wrote:

Forwarded Message Follows

From: jones@perigee.net (Bob Jones)
To: service@ganoksin.com
Subject: Wax Tools
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 01:14:50 -0500

Can anybody in internetland suggest any cheap home-made wax
working tools? I already have found the suggestions from the
BRAIN (Lewton, that is) for the ground off drill bit milling tool
and the Forged brass tool, but is there anything else that you
guys can think of?

In addition, I am going to try to rig a wax lathe with a 1/30 HP
(not 1/3 misprinted) motor I found. Will it work? How would you
hold the piece of wax for turning, either solid or holed ringwax?
I would appreciate any suggestions. Thanks.

Marshall T. Jones
jones@perigee.net

orchid@ganoksin.com

orchid@ganoksin.com

There is a fairly simple one that works on a flex shaft machine and it
allows the operator to control the speed the same way one would control
the flex shaft …It uses the handpiece I think it is a Foredom 54 with
a drill type chuck and is just a U shaped metal thing with a screw clamp
spot to hold different bits/cutters.It takes wax ring tubes and I have
seen good homemade ones as well as the commercial version which is quite
costly in my opinion…

orchid@ganoksin.com

*I asked my dentist to save his broken drills, scrapers, picks, grinders,
etc. Most are stainless and heat well- Alos get Hemostates from
nurse friend by the gillions work as heat sinks-third hands etc.
Work Great-FREE!

Fred


#10

Dam… I wish we allhad scanner… including ME!!

I’m lost really didn’ understand your description

COME BACK!
jim

At 05:23 AM 11/5/96 -0600, you wrote:

Jim Chambers wrote:

Marshall,

I have a stand for a ‘ring sizer’ … made out of metal… could construct
some sort of portable arrangement using the brase to hold the real ‘guts’ of
the lathe …

Speed… what should the RPM be… for the averate motor it is 1750 which I
assume must be to fast for a Wax lathe…

Power Soucce . . should be DC??? for portablabiltiy or a samll transformer
such as you get for most DC driven thingy today… should provide the
right power as well as RPM???

What Say???
At 06:51 PM 10/30/96 +7, you wrote:

Forwarded Message Follows

From: jones@perigee.net (Bob Jones)
To: service@ganoksin.com
Subject: Wax Tools
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 01:14:50 -0500

Can anybody in internetland suggest any cheap home-made wax
working tools? I already have found the suggestions from the
BRAIN (Lewton, that is) for the ground off drill bit milling tool
and the Forged brass tool, but is there anything else that you
guys can think of?

In addition, I am going to try to rig a wax lathe with a 1/30 HP
(not 1/3 misprinted) motor I found. Will it work? How would you
hold the piece of wax for turning, either solid or holed ringwax?
I would appreciate any suggestions. Thanks.

Marshall T. Jones
jones@perigee.net

orchid@ganoksin.com

procedures

orchid@ganoksin.com

procedures


#11

Marshall,
snip

Have you seen the Matt Tools was lathe that attaches to a flex shaft hand
piece. Very controlable, affordable and it works well (if the piece is
small enough to fit in the unit).

Power Soucce . . should be DC??? for portablabiltiy or a samll transformer
such as you get for most DC driven thingy today… should provide the
right power as well as RPM???

If you use a brushed AC motor, you can use a speed controller on it. I
have used a speed controller/heat controller (for souldering irons) for
years on a small pump I used for pumping thousands of gallons of apple
cider I used to make every year when I farmed. Worked extreamly well.
Radio Shack might be able to help, I don’t recall where I got my unit,
but it might have been from a stained glass supplier.

What Say???

See above!!

John

John Dach and Cynthia Thomas
Maiden Metals
a div. of We are given eyes to see and ears to hear,
MidLife Crisis Enterprises but what is required of the mind?
PO BX 44
Philo, CA 95466
707-895-2635(phone/fax)


#12

John & Cynthia/ MidLife Crisis Ent. wrote:

Marshall,
snip

Have you seen the Matt Tools was lathe that attaches to a flex shaft hand
piece. Very controlable, affordable and it works well (if the piece is
small enough to fit in the unit).

Power Soucce . . should be DC??? for portablabiltiy or a samll transformer
such as you get for most DC driven thingy today… should provide the
right power as well as RPM???

If you use a brushed AC motor, you can use a speed controller on it. I
have used a speed controller/heat controller (for souldering irons) for
years on a small pump I used for pumping thousands of gallons of apple
cider I used to make every year when I farmed. Worked extreamly well.
Radio Shack might be able to help, I don’t recall where I got my unit,
but it might have been from a stained glass supplier.

? We are given eyes to see and ears to
but what is required of the mind?

to keep the ears seperated so we can appreciate stereo