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Family crest design cad/cam


#1

Hey To all you cad/cammers out there. I have an Artcam setup with a
three axis mill and I have a Christmas order for a family crest
ring. I have to do some artwork here b/c they only have given me the
embossed wedding invitation since that’s the only copy of it around.
Yes I have already tried to get in touch with the invitation company
and no they will not sell me the artwork. How do I go about
approaching this project. If anyone has any ideas please let me
know . If anyone is interested in doing the vector artwork, Let me
know so I can give you some work. Sincerely, Scott Isaacs Berry’s
Jewelery
Co. -Downtown Nashville cad/cam design fabrication-goldsmith


#2

Dear Scott. What you can do is scan the embossed design, import the
image into a vector software and use it as guidelines to make your
vector artwork. If the embossed design doesn’t show properly in the
scan, try to shade it with a pencil before scanning. I’ll be more
than happy to help you with the artwork. Fady Sawaya
design@fadysawaya.com http://www.fadysawaya.com


#3

Dear Scott,

Now that you have your new toy, let me rain on your parade. Maybe
the reason that the other company will not sell you the artwork is
that the design that your about to use is the intellectual property
of someone else. They simply do not want you to take their property
and use it to make your own work. The fact that you have a cad/cam
system, which makes it easy to copy somebody intellectual property,
does not make you the owner of the work. Either work with the
designs that you know are already in the public domain or be able to
show that you have created the intellectual property yourself. Many
people will think that it is cool to use somebody else’s design in a
new form. But unless you can defend how you developed it
independently, resist the temptation! Your question also raises
some other interesting issues. It is fairly time consuming to take a
bitmap and translate them into vector graphics. Most designs take a
fair amount of time,to use a tool to create the vectors from the
bitmap and some edditing skill, to clean up the design. You are
going to need to work with a customer who is willing to pay for your
time or have a design that lots of people are going to want. Another
alternative, is to develop your own library of your designs and use
it for your own customers. These comments are not to be taken as a
slam against cad/cam. These products are extremely useful when used
skillfully. The fact that you own a word processing machine will
not necessarily make you an author or let you copy somebody elses
work without consequences. However, when used by a skilled person,
can allow you to produce your work more efficiently. Mike


#4

Wow Mike , Tough reply…I would think a family crest is not any
ones intelectual property unless they made it up, my own family crest
is available on the clan web site. And most vectorazation is not that
difficult to do . As far as I know Scott is a responsible person and
is not ripping off anyone elses work. As a user and instructor in CAD
CAM equipment it is my experience that most users are not copy cats
and the costs preclude it being a toy. Maby you should contact Scott
offline and get off the soap box. David


#5

To create vector art from a scanned bitmap image, use Adobe
Streamline software, which “traces” your black and white art into
vectors, and then take the final mess of vectors into illustrator and
clean them up.

-Drew


#6

Dear Dave and Scott: Thank you for your reply.

 I would think a family crest is not any ones intelectual property
unless they made it up, my own family crest is available on the
clan web site. 

True, but even if 99% of the family crest is in the public domain,
and the one you copied is not, this is no defense for you. You are
required to treat every design as somebody’s else intellectual
property, unless you can shop that it is in the public domain.

Scott’s comment was I tried to purchase the art and the other party
would not sell. This for me is a red flag that a problem is in the
making. It would take Scott less time to find this answer then it
would take to read all the e-mail posted on this thread. All he
needs to do is call and ask. That party will most likely tell him if
he claims that the design is his intellectual property.

And most vectorazation is not that difficult to do .   

True, unless you have to change your basic design due to infringement
issues.

As far as I know Scott is a responsible person and is not ripping
off anyone elses work. As a user and instructor in CAD CAM
equipment it is my experience that most users are not copy cats 

If all it took was reasonableness, the courts would not be filled
with good honest hard working defendants. If latter were true, than
my business would not be growing. Most people infringe out of
ignorance and never intended to infringe. The penality for inocent
infringement is steep! This also includes the cost of your attorney.

 and the costs preclude it being a toy. 

I should have added LOL! Mike Rufenach