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Chain knitting


#1

Hi Gang,

DeDe said,

Me too! I would love to know more about chain knitting in the
french knit style!!! Please share with us!!!<<

I’m sure there are several of "us chainmakers’ who’d also be
very interested in a description or where we could find some info
on it.

BTW, there’s an article on ‘Crocheting Wire Necklaces’ in the
August Lapidary Journal by Pat Mose-Caudel. (Nice article Pat.)
Pat’s a subscriber to Orchid.

Dave


#2

thanks david. more coming up, i did a silver amulet bag for
september, and a silver angel for december…i’m having a ball!
or a wire ball…also, there are more planned for the next year.
when do you want me to send you your hook? pat


#3
thanks david.  more coming up, i did a silver amulet bag for
september, and a silver angel for december...i'm having a ball!
or a wire ball....also, there are more planned for the next year.
 when do you want me to send you your hook? pat

Hi pat, as I’m the one who started the subject probably, I would
be glad to get the article of yours which Dave recommeds. I’m not
a subscriber of the Lapidary Journal (glad to be though). Untill
I am, can I get it somehow?

Thanks

Shlomit


#4

sure you can! i’ll email it to you if you want, it is the
directions to a thick band necklace, 4 or 5 rows wide, using a
double crochet stitch. it fits close to the neck. the
difference i see is i use the steel hook to make the work up
following a pattern of stitches to complete the project. knitting
with the spool, which i also do and love, creates the chain of
wire. what gauge wire do you use to get the 3mm (my brass gauge
is burried somewhere on my worktable.) i use 24 to 30 for the
knitting, but might try it with 22. 26 is the thickest i would
use for crochet.

you can actually convert almost all crochet patterns to wire for
jewelry. i made a rose with petals from it, as well as adapting
the ripple afghan stitch that all grandmothers make us.
(acutally, i have made them myself of yarn. ) just make the
adjustments for the smaller size. pat


#5
sure you can!  i'll email it to you if you want, it is the
directions to a thick band necklace, 4 or 5 rows wide, using a
double crochet stitch.  it fits close to the neck.  the
difference i see is i use the steel hook to make the work up
following a pattern of stitches to complete the project. knitting
with the spool, which i also do and love, creates the chain of
wire. what gauge wire do you use to get the 3mm (my brass gauge
is burried somewhere on my worktable.)  i use 24 to 30 for the
knitting, but might try it with 22.  26 is the thickest i would
use for crochet.
you can actually convert almost all crochet patterns to wire for
jewelry.  i made a rose with petals from it, as well as adapting
the ripple afghan stitch that all grandmothers make us.
(acutally, i have made them myself of yarn. ) just make the
adjustments for the smaller size.

Thanks for the quick answer. Please E Mail me the article. I use
0.3mm thick wire ( that is the way it is described here in ISRAEL
) to get the very fine 3 mm chain. The thickest I knitted was 0.7
mm , which was a challenge to my hands…When the chain is
finished I pass it through a narrower tube or some round hole so
is streches a little and becomes thinner somewhat. I also anneal
ti very lightly so it want be too whirly.

Thanks again

Shlomit


#6
[snip] what gauge wire do you use to get the 3mm (my brass
gauge is burried somewhere on my worktable [snip]I use 0.3mm
thick wire ( that is the way it is described here in ISRAEL )
to get the very fine 3 mm chain. The thickest I knitted was
0.7 mm

Shlomit .7mm would be roughly equivilent to 21 gauge; .3mm is
between 28 & 29 gauge Kat


#7
Shlomit .7mm would be roughly equivilent to 21 gauge; .3mm is
between 28 & 29 gauge Kat

Kat, Thanks a lot for taking the trouble to enlighten me on the
subject. Do you know the exact definition of the gauge unit? As
its not linearily dependent on the width I wonder what it is.

Thanks again

Shlomit


#8

Shlomit said,

Do you know the exact definition of the gauge unit? As its not
linearily dependent on the width I wonder what it is.

I haven’t been able to find the basis of the American Wire or
Browne & Sharpe Gage. However, there are 6 different metal gage
systems in use (mo re or less) in the US. The B & S is the non-
ferrous metal gage. It goes fro m 6/0 gage (.5165 in) to 50 gage
(.00099in). The ferrous gages are based o n the weight of 1
square foot of steel 1inch thick weighing 41.82 pounds.
Basically, the gage number was how many square feet of metal
agiven thickness could be rolled from 41.82 pounds of steel. ex.
6 ga is .192 in

thick, therefore 1/.1923D5.2083. 1 pound of steel will make
5.2083 sq ft of 6 ga steel sheet. At one time the scheme was
based on a 40 pound steel. Industry is trying to get away from
the gage schemes and go to dimensions in thousandths of an inch.

I’d guess the B&S system is based on some metal other than iron
or steel,

but I don’t know which one, copper maybe.

Dave


#9

Thanks Dave for the in need. I still don’t see the
simple relation for the B&S gauge unit. If it were the same as
the Ferrous but for another metal, there would be an inverse law
relation so when you go from 6 to 50 gauge the width would be
6/50 times the first which is not the case…

Shlomit