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#1

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Double twisted bangle
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#2

This looks reasonable simple to make but might add something quick
to make that might bring in additional bucks.

Kay


#3

Hi all

good idea but if you want something really quick.

This looks reasonable simple to make but might add something quick
to make that might bring in additional bucks. 

Try this, get 2 mm square wire between 20 and 25 centimetres depends
how big wrists are where you live.

Anneal wire. Mark into thirds. Put one third into a soft jawed vice.
Grasp wire one third from the other end in flat jawed pliers.

Some tape to protect the metal might be a good idea.

Twist till it gets the number of twists till it looks good to you.
Don’t over twist it will work harden and snap.

Now bend round mandrel and to get shape you want round or oval.
Anneal again, as this bangle may need to be fitted. Polish.

You have an open backed bangle very quick to make looks good.

all the best
Richard


#4
This looks reasonable simple to make but might add something quick
to make that might bring in additional bucks. 

I dont normally comment on other folks work, but in this instance,
as 2 have already replied that its quick and simple to do, yes I
agree, if its what you want to do.

However, Its really apprentice grade work and not really worth a
pros time.


#5

Hi Ted and others

However, Its really apprentice grade work and not really worth a
pros time. 

I agree just posted the square twist because there are many of that
level on Orchid and rather than starve can get up some stock fast
and have some wow factor. Also you learn some smithing when you make
one. I haven’t made one since a beginner but will give one a try in
Argentium.

I get asked to make bangles at times and the good old twistie is a
great seller. Even just plain comfort fit round bangles sell well.

Rings are my thing but some times to add more to my range I make a
bangle or two. Google images “Torun bangles” to see the next level.

All the best
Richard


#6

The person that made and posted the video, Soham, is a jewelry
teacher/professor. His videos are for beginner students. The pros on
the Orchid list will not find the videos beneficial. For newbies that
have no idea how to put out an alcohol flux fire, light and adjust
torches, sweat solder, draw solder to the join, anneal or cut wire to
ring size there is a lot to learn. He offers it free and takes
questions from followers all over the world. The guy is pretty cool.
Has great taste in motorcycles, (Ducati & BMW), has interesting tats,
I’m sure wonderful stories, loves animals and make a mean creme
Brule! He even has a video on that for jewelers with proper torch
use!

Charlie
Seawear.com


#7

Hi Richard,

Yes your correct, the next level is as you say work like Torun
bangles.

Now, heres one for your thoughts/suggestions,? Ive asked Hanauman how
to upload some of my work.

when its on the forum ill post where it can be seen and judged.

after all, I cant judge others if im not prepared to be judged
likewise.

Ted


#8

Yeah Soham is awesome and I am so grateful for all he does for us.
He is a teacher in Australia and he is the furthest thing from the
arrogant, prideful jewelers that I come across too often, its really
refreshing. He is a true teacher at heart, but don’t let that fool
you, he can make some complicated and amazing jewelry in both gold
and silver.


#9

Wow.

I am so surprised to read the quite critical comments about Soham
Harrison from people on this list.

This man is a gift to the world of metalsmithing - and explains
things in such a kind, understandable and creative way. His videos
are better than classes I have taken and FAR exceed any book or DVD
I have on metalsmithing.

Everyone can learn something from others, no matter to what "level"
they think they have evolved. An art degree from this school or that
school means nothing and certainly does not make anyone “better” than
anyone else. I firmly believe that you learn best by doing - and if I
could find an apprenticeship job (even a volunteer position) I’d be
there in a heartbeat. I think there was a discussion on this issue
recently, so apologizes for digressing…

Soham - please keep doing what you are doing - you are helping so
many people, beginners and non-beginners alike.

People need to keep in mind that there is no “right way” to do
ANYTHING - there is only the “best way” that works for each
individual.

I For example, I challenge ANYONE else to try and make granulation
look as easy as Soham does and successfully explain how to attach
the granules to any piece of jewelry.)

I find that many of the other video-making “professionals” skip over
MANY steps - almost purposely - to keep the poor chaps trying to
learn the craft purposely “in the dark.” I can also most see the
smirk on their faces as they “forget” to explain the fine details of
sweat soldering (one of my “professional” instructors said to our
class: “sweat soldering is a pain in the ass, so I don’t bother
using it.” And thus concluded my professional instruction on sweat
soldering — until I found Soham’s wonderful videos…)

People on this list making nasty comments about this generous man’s
work is directly insulting, criticizing and denigrating those
learning from him - like me, and MANY others on this list.

So sad that there are people that feel that this list is for
elitists only…


#10

I agree. We have too many self-proclaimed “pundits” who offer very
little themselves other than a lot of pseudo-technical drivel. It
would be nice to see them offer something of real value-i. e. a
project, or even an example of their work.

I think that Soham does a fine job as does Geral Lewy, Hans Meevis,
Leonard Surpin and a few others.


#11

I personally think that there are plenty of others here that give
good advice. Including the one by whom’s comment was a little less
than palatable by one who is less than a pro.

I can write that off as a simple moment of misjudgment and isolated
mental focus. it happens, and undoubtably, will again. I am not
offended.

BTW, this actually brings up a good point. Leonid Supin. I miss him.
though, he and I most often argued opposite viewpoints, he was an
invaluable point of view and resource.

I wonder if his comments got a little too venomous for some. did he
get kicked off?

if not, I would love to argue with you again, Leonid, I often learn
through argument.

Christopher Lund


#12

Hi all

well if you have been a silversmith for a couple of decades and
trained by a master gold and silver smith you might have a different
opinion. Seems some take a different technical perspective as an
insult.

Well get over it. I posted my opinion on Sohams making of a knot
ring, IMHO not the best way to make it, if you find that technical
view offensive then you need to get a grip on bench reality. I was
not insulting the gentleman only saying there are other ways to
achieve the same objective. I am sure that if Soham and I sat down
at the bench and talked out the construction methods we would learn
from each other and probably over a beer or two.

So don’t be so precious and get back to the bench you have a lot to
learn.

Richard


#13

In view of the reply by Cori to “us” pros on the bangle in the
video, It justifies another look.

So lets start with a few basics, jewellery worn on the body needs to
meet a number of criteria, some of which are,

I. it needs to really comfortable to use,

  1. it has to have structural integrity, to last its expected life
    time,

  2. it must not snag on the wearers clothing.

  3. it brings pleasure to the wearer.

If other pros and Richard in 'Australia look at this video, it would
appear to have been edited from several takes. The bangle being made
is not the same bangle as in the final picture, as the twists have a
different pitch.

I wouldnt expect a student or apprentice to notice this.

To move on, does the bangle meet the 4 criteria?

1, this depends on the wearers expectations.

  1. I dont think it does meet this need. Why? let me explain, Twisting
    wire, string, most things cause the material to shorten, just try
    it!!. then when its untwisted it lengthens again.

so in the video the final twist, the tight wire will continue to
shorten and the other wire will lengthen as it untwists.

this would explain why there is a gap between the 2 wires and this
is a weakening of its strength.

  1. the gaps between the wires are a potential snag area.

  2. Again, that depends on the wearer. however it is beholden on the
    maker to do their best to avoid problems.

To look at some of Cori’s comments,

The video making pro’s, skip basics?

Yes, and for very good reasons too, today, you students and/or
apprentices are expected to have read every book on this subject
before you even think of taking classes from us pro’s. you are also
expected to do all this studying by yourself. its when you cant solve
a problenm, were here to point you in the right direction. Our time
really is too valuable to spend on basics.

You also need to count yourselves lucky you dont live in the middle
ages where all knowhow on this subject was empirical, based on trial
and error and alchemy.

The videos better than any classes youve taken?

this is a slur on those teachers who have been or are in this trade
who are at the top of their game and devote their time to helping
those that have talent and are prepared to give it everything.

Read Richard from Aus. who took kids off the streets and gave them
some metal to work. The results were amazing.

This list for eletite’s ? yes and its also for those just starting
out with everyone in between.

Hope you folloow
Ted.


#14

Hi Ted and others

I agree with Ted’s post. Check him out he knows what he is talking
about.

I had a quick look at the bangle video. Not a quality design. There
will be many problems with this bangle when worn. Think about it.

If these videos are better than classes taken time for a refund.

Again I post, bangles, google Torun, and if you can’t work them out,
do some study. They are made with very basic skills. But these skills
are done at the highest level.

Skipping the basics, of course if you haven’t got the basics, then
they can’t make the piece in the first place. Sawing, filing,
hammering and soldering etc. And don’t forget polishing.

Can’t wait till some one wants to know how to mix safety pickle.

I will post “Read the $# label!!!”

I can’t believe how many questions could be answered with a quick
google.

I often email off line to people who really want to know, but have
made an effort to learn all they could.

all the best
Richard