Benchtop bandsaw, drill press, belt sander

Hi,

i would like to get a tabletop 9”-10” bandsaw…to cut small-ish pieces of wood…ie: a bench pin, parts to make small tool holders, small shelves…stuff like that…1x4 planks, maybe 2x4, maybe 4x4…?

any recommendations for brand, model, amp, horsepower, and any other advice would be greatly appreciated…

i like to buy good, solid, long lasting tools…but i have no experience in this category

i have the same questions for a drill press,

and belt sander (what would be a good belt size/width”)

my brain is thinking precision would be most important…?…versus power overkill…?

my dad had a lot of craftsman tools…

julie

My experience with a small band saw for cutting exotic woods was not great. The cut would start o.k. but then the saw band would drift away from vertical, moving out a bit, making bowed cuts rather than straight ones. That could have been down to me, not having the tension right, but I never got it good enough.

That might not be as much of a problem when cutting thin wood. I was trying to cut larger blocks of wood into thinner boards. It would be a good idea to know the maximum size of the material you’d ever want to cut.

One article online cited this: “Blade Guides: These keep the blade aligned and prevent it from wandering. High-quality guides are crucial for accurate cuts and blade life.”

Mine is in storage so I can’t tell you much about it. It looks a lot like this, might be Skil, but definitely is not red!:

It would be a good idea to go to a woodworking tools store and ask for help if you don’t know someone experienced with band saws. I have found my band saw to be more difficult to use well than any other kind of power saw.

Good luck!

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Hi,

that’s a good idea! I was looking on line at home depot, for instance, but many are not actually in the store…like one item said it was in xyz store…

i would love to see an assortment…although i am not sure what i would discern from just looking at it​:rofl::laughing:

i did read about the different upper and lower guides pins…blocks…ball bearing…with one article saying ball bearings seem to be more desired… but he did not notice an issue with the band saw with pin guide…and then the only bandsaw i could find in that size/ price range with bears was a rikon, but then iin a rikon review someone said it kinda “bogged down” in one test, while at the same time the rikon has a wee bit more amps/ horsepower (power) than the others compared to it…so why would it test less powerful…in other words, the rikon seemed better on paper, but not in the physical testing..

it gets more confusing the more i research

also, i saw an accessory that helps to stabilize the saw in addition to the lower guides…but now i cannot recall the name of it…

needless to say, this rabbit hole is a sticky wicket🤣

the decision may come down to the cheapest one located closest to me​:rofl::laughing:

julie

Julie…You have been away for a while. Welcome back. If you look at the pictures of my shop, I have made all the benches, shelves, machine stands and little tool supports with my Dewalt chop saw, circular saw and a Black and Decker cordless drill. I have always wanted a table saw, but would only use it once or twice a year. You can user a circular saw and clamped guides to rip a long piece of wood or a panel. If you are buying a panel with the intention of ripping it, stores like Lowes and Home Depot will rip it for you on a panel saw frame. I have always purchased good equipment like Dewalt makes, but now that I am older, and maybe buying a tool for a single use, I go to Harbor freight. I was mounting some shelves to a cement block wall and needed a hammer drill to do it. I bought one at Harbor freight for $60 and it works fine. If I where in need of it often, I would have purchased a better one. Don’t ignore good non-power tools like the Japanese hand saws. They are very sharp and easy to use. Good luck and keep us posted…Rob

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Hi Rob,

your studio is so spacious and very organized! i have shop envy!

(we have a hand held circular saw…but i have never been brave enough to try if…it is “new in box”:rofl:)

(a chop saw/ meiter saw is # 4 on my power tool wish list🤣)

so far, i have been “making do” with a jig saw and hand saws…for decades…but i find the jigsaw a bit “rough”……and the foot plate and the hold down clamps seem to get in each others way when needing to work close in…

and hand saws are workable but can get exhausting…and uneven :rofl:)

it’s something i would not use monthly, but when i need it, i need it…same with the drill press and band saw

infrequent use suggests getting a low priced unit. so i am searching for the lowest price model that will perform easily, accurately, dependably, and suit my needs​:rofl::laughing:

i always start looking, “after” i have “already” completed some arduous project where i wished i had one!!!

julie

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Fear is a useful emotion around any pieces of power equipment, especially saws. You might look into smaller cordless equipment. The only caution is that, once you commit to a cordless system, the batteries are specific to that line of equipment. As a result, you have to stay brand and battery loyal after that when you buy new pieces and expect to use the battery that you already have. On the plus side, once you have a set of batteries and a charger, you can buy a piece of equipment without the battery, since you already have one. While low on the power and probably quality scale, I have had good luck with Worx tools for all of my yardwork needs (edging, leaf blowing, shrub trimming etc). We have many gardens and a lot of lawn and these tools have lasted for years. I don’t know if the same would be true of their wood working tools, but they make a line of smaller battery share woodworking tools. It’s hard not to think about these purchases without applying the same level of precision that you apply to making jewelry, but cutting a board to make a shelf doesn’t require a lot of precision. Also, look at PVC molding. It comes in many different shapes and sizes. PVC is very stable and it is a lot easier to work on to make whatever you are making than a small piece of wood as long as it isn’t structural. You can’t see it in the pictures of my shop, but there are pieces of PVC molding all over the place. Good luck…Rob

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Hi Julie!

You may wish to give this combo a look (I am not affiliated with Wen and do not receive any compensation for recommending their products, I’ve just had good experiences with their stuff):

https://www.amazon.com/WEN-4206T-2-3-Amp-5-Speed-Benchtop/dp/B0CB13PS5V/ref=sr_1_17?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.K5joERo-qRfVWbWdcoRhP1fhQhQ2x0IVQ3bcU5H1A9c4vrksDohU8EXxVfJJ-sY7Ggm1s6xinQuv3FxiWShUwB6WuiO71aKn4oCoJ3YAgGXXzzz4pWpZKMbx-tLmHGr3W8YNtILgpFh7dv8kafQ79p_ejnzqaV7eAlUPFS7uV1k1ge5PcPaupReJC2fpUqm49LYCVA0U63rNWhEPikEw7NDfo8QGzq25svrJj9IvqLSt1Zw_MgZCQKb1evbAG0h3aBzMf2rXPaPPUmSp4k-WJJNq_7OYv2PorsRWg6hGHZw.HVe8WfGPrkfEXx54p8w2_DRFly3bA8Ztjt8pG96S3-U&dib_tag=se&keywords=benchtop%2Bdrill%2Bpress&qid=1757139645&sr=8-17&th=1

Wen is not a premium brand like Jet or Delta, but instead a value-priced brand targeted at cost-conscious consumers. I own several of their tools and have found them to be an outstanding value for the money.

I own a large Jet 14” woodworking bandsaw with a riser kit to increase the throat capacity and a high performance blade guide upgrade kit for resawing veneer from expensive tropical hardwoods and burls. I use this machine as my dedicated veneer resawing station. I also have a large Enco 14” woodworking bandsaw that I use for general curved cut work. I bought a small Ryobi 9” tabletop-sized woodworking bandsaw for smaller precision curved cut jobs. I also have a small Inland tabletop diamond blade wet saw for jewelry work that I use to cut rough stone and shells like Paua, Abalone, and mother of pearl.

Ripping thick stock to produce thin stock is referred to by cabinetmakers as “resawing”. The band saw is the correct tool for this task. The secret for achieving accurate results is to use a proper blade, tune the blade guides for the specific blade being used, properly tension the blade, and use a tall rip fence that is properly tuned.

A wide blade with a low tooth count is preferred for resawing. The wider the blade, the less the cut will drift. A low tooth count allows a wider gullet between teeth to efficiently carry chips out of the cut and prevent the blade from clogging or binding. If you were to buy the linked saw, I’d recommend this blade for resawing work.

I always use an alundum stone to round over the trailing edge of my bandsaw blades to reduce friction and produce a smoother cut. This is less important when resawing, more important when using narrow blades to cut tight curves.

Ball bearing blade guides are comprised of three ball bearing rollers. Two are oriented so they pinch the blade between them and prevent it from twisting, the third is positioned behind the blade to keep it from kinking as the operator feeds work into the blade’s teeth. The guides must be properly adjusted for the specific blade installed on the machine. The manual will contain instructions for adjusting the guides.

Blade tension must be properly adjusted to achieve good results. If the tension is too loose, the blade will more easily kink or twist. If the tension is too tight, the blade will wear out prematurely and could even break. The manual will contain instructions for adjusting blade tension.

Resawing requires a proper rip fence that is correctly tuned for the installed blade. The height of the fence must be enough to support the work as it is fed through the blade. A rip cut will always tend to “drift” off center by an amount determined by the adjustment of the blade guides and the blade tension. A carefully aligned saw may have no discernible drift, whereas a poorly aligned saw may have a drift of several degrees off center to one side of the blade centerline. It’s possible to compensate for drift by slightly loosening the rip fence and canting it to one side or the other just enough to straighten the cut, then tighten it down in this new position.

My experience has been that a premium brand saw is inherently more accurate and easier to adjust. However, I’ve found that one can get even a cantankerous bargain brand saw to produce acceptable results by carefully tuning all the adjustments.

While cutting, resist the temptation to use a high feed rate to force the work into the blade so as to hurry the job along. Instead, best results are achieved by allowing the machine to do the work at its own pace. This pace will vary according to a combination of the material where softwoods cut more easily/quickly than hardwoods; with the thickness of the work where thicker work cuts more slowly; and according to the tooth count of the blade where a lower tooth count cuts faster but leaves a rougher finish than a blade with a higher tooth count, but a higher tooth count removes chips less efficiently and is prone to bind if the count is too high for the thickness of the work at hand.

I hope the above proves useful…

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One more thing: the blade height adjustment is also important. This adjustment sets the gap between the table and the upper blade guide. It should be set so the upper guide is just above the top of the work. If set incorrectly, the blade will be able to twist more easily, resulting in drift…

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Hello Greg,

Thank you so, so, so very much for your free Master Class on Bandsaws and Bandsawing!

you are so gracious with your time and knowledge!

i am considering 2 options…

  1. the combo you suggested:
    wen 2.8amp (.45hp) 9” bandsaw
    plus 2.3amp (.37hp) 8” 5 speed drill press
    (approx $256 at this time)

  2. wen 3.5amp (.56hp) 10” 2 speed bandsaw
    (approx $382 at this time)

but as usual, there is now a new wrinkle in my life…a hitch in my giddy up…it might put my bandsaw acquisition on hold…

my silentaire/ val-air 50-15 oil air compressor
(single phase 1/2hp 4 gal /40db)
for my gravermax sc system, just started to stop building pressure…:woman_facepalming:t2:

i have scoured my manual, youtube, and have call in for repair advice…i checked external connections for leaks…hopefully it is a simple repair…ugh…ugh…ugh…

julie

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Julie…In one of my previous lives, I taught people how to maintain air compressors. You are doing the right thing looking for leaks. It could also be a control valve. A 20 year old air compressor may need to have the cylinder valves rebuilt or replaced if it is the type that has valves. I am not familiar with Silentaire. This isn’t something thast you can do. Good luck and keep us posted…Rob

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Hi Rob,

in terms of compressor repair…would that be an electrician?…hvac?…repair…i am curious…

julie

Start with someone who sells Silentaire. They are expensive to buy and probably to repair. Then look for someone who sells and leases air compressors and ask about a repair. I don’t know anything about Silentaire as those that I worked on for Ingersoll Rand were much larger and designed to be repaired. This may not be the case for your compressor and 20 years may be its lifecycle. If you find someone who says that they can repair it, get an estimate first. It wouldn’t take much shop time and parts cost to equal the price of a new compressor. I have a California Air that I am very happy with and it runs my Lindsay equipment just fine. They are a bit noisier than a Silentaire, but a lot less expensive. Good luck…Rob

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Hi Rob,

thank you for your comment about your california air compressor…i was looking into those as well…is your oil-free…?

julie

Yes…Rob

I also have a California Air Tools compressor. Inexpensive, drives my air graver beautifully. I agree with Rob, it’s a bit noisy for a quiet studio, but I’m extremely happy with it thus far. I’ve had if for just under a year.

Sadly, I know nothing about compressor repairs. I wish you best of luck!

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Beware if cheap tools. Look for tools with a cast steel surface, adjustable set screws for the blade width, ease of removing front to change or adjust the tension on the blade, room for a fence, attachment/a port for a vacuum. It’s not easy to cut a straight line - and I use a combination sander to level it out. I own a very old craftsman - floor models are better than the ones on a counter.

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Dumore Drill Press is my choice in my studio. Pricey, but can find on ebay.

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