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Adhesives & Paper


#1

A little of the subject…

I mount some of my enameled tiles and frame them. I sometimes use
several layers of heavy paper attached to matt board to mount them
on. The trouble is finding a really good adhesive to bond the
layers of paper that will not soak through, discolor or warp the
paper. I was using the 3M heavy duty adhesive spray, but my last
show was very humid and some of the thinner papers began rippling
from it…I am considering plain old rubber cement. If any of you
have any experience with something similar any ideas or comments
would be greatly appreciated. The fact that I am sure somebody will
have an idea is why i love this list.

Karen, In Northern Illinois where it hit 90 degrees F yesterday!

@karenworks1


#2
      The trouble is finding a really good adhesive to bond the
layers of paper that will not soak through, discolor or warp the
paper. I was using the 3M heavy duty adhesive spray, but my last
show was very humid and some of the thinner papers began
rippling from it....

G’day Karen Mediaworks; The better stationers and artists shops
here are able to supply a kind of foam plastic board which has a
bonded cover of cardboard, and can be obtained in various
thicknesses down to about a centimetre. My son mounted big photo
enlargements on this (using a proper photo mountant cement) about
10 years ago, and they are still in excellent condition. I would
imagine that anything available here in ‘lil ole Noo Zillun’ would
certainly be available in your country.

I would also add that paper is notoriously affected by humidity -
it is even possible to make a rather crude but effective humidity
meter by cutting a narrow strip of paper, rubbing a candle on one
side, winding it around a pencil, gluing the inner end to a pin and
pushing the pin into a board. As the humidity changes, so the curl
winds and unwinds! Now my point here is that I would look for
papers in the art suppliers perhaps which are more waterproof.

Cheers,

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At drizzly Nelson NZ


#3

Hi Karen,

 I was using the 3M heavy duty adhesive spray, but my last show
was very humid and some of the thinner papers began rippling from
it....I am considering plain old rubber cement. 

I’d suspect your problem is the paper. Usually paper expands when
it pick s up moisture. What’s probably happening is this.

Your mat board & other paper products used to mount the items,
were store d in a dry location (at least drier than the 80+%
humidity you can experien ce in a typical Midwest summer. You
assembled the dry components & then took them into a location where
the humidity was considerably higher. The pape r started to absorb
the humidity & expand. However, because the adhesive us ed is more
impervious to moisture absorbtion, the bottom most layers of pape
r aren’t able to absorb moisture at the same rate as the top
layer(s). The result is the wrinkling you described.

Two possible solutions; 1, move to AZ, where the humidity stays
low. Tha t may not be practical so here’s #2. Acclimate the papers
you’re going to u se in an atmosphere that is close to the humidity
they may be subjected to i n the near future. Put the paper in a
garbage bag with a pie/cake tin partially filled with hot water.
Close the bag tightly. Assemble them aft er they’ve been
acclimated. Your idea for using plain old rubber cemet is vaild, it
takes a long time to become ridgid & its’ elasticity may be enough
to allow the top layers of paper to expand without wrinkling as
bad. You might also spray the assembled paper items with a clear
sealer if you can tolerate the slight change in color & finish. An
artist supply store might have what you’re looking for.

HTH

Dave (in dry AZ)


#4

karen:

It could get a little pricey unless you know someone with a
drymount press but drymounting would give you a good durable bond.

luck
Lorne in beautiful BC


#5

That’s the trouble with wood, when you give it water, it wants to
go back into the tree shape that it naturally occurs in- Maybe a
synthetic- type paper or some other? I’m interested in this myself
also, so please let us know what works. Regards- Rick


#6
     The trouble is finding a really good adhesive to bond the
layers of paper that will not soak through, discolor or warp the
paper. I was using the 3M heavy duty adhesive spray, but my last
show was very humid and some of the thinner papers began rippling
from it.... 

Finding the right adhesive is one of the great mysteries of
mankind, and gluing paper seems to be one of the worst. I have been
gluing tissue paper to card stock and have gone though hell and
high water to find the right adhesive. I hate to tell you this but
what you are using is about as good as you can find. There are
several versions of the 3M spray and you might want to try another
one. I can’t tell you at the moment which one it is that I use but
I usually identify it in the store as being the highest priced,
about $10 - $12 american. (ouch) If anyone knows of something
better I would love to hear it but it has to be in a spray for
production purposes


#7

Karen - There is a fairly new product out called Gatorboard, (as
in alligator) High-density foam core, covered with very tough
plastic. Much stiffer that ordinary foam core. Not humidity
sensitive, and far less heat sensitive that regular wimpy foam
core. It’s quite rigid, and is used for display mountings in
retail situations, etc. You can pressure mount, heat mount, or
epoxy to it. Depending on how much weight you are putting on in
display materials, you may find it usefull to reinforce the
backing board – a metal frame, cut to custom size, and screwed
together, along with gatorboard, will give you a pretty sturdy
display. eve wallace @eve_wallace1