Wholesaling one-offs

Noel, did you ever think that maybe they were just being polite to
you with their overbought explanation? If they never sold much of
your work, they probably just wanted to free up the space for
something that would sell. Looking at your Orchid Gallery, you do
lovely work, but most of it (the decorative non-jewelry pieces)
seems like it would only fit in a specialized type of decorating not
really in vogue (at least not here in northern Ohio!). Could you
please give us some idea what your individual retail prices are (or
were) for these pieces? As a retail jeweler, it would help us to set
a baseline as to your market segment.

Lee Cornelius
Vegas Jewelers

Years ago I raised some goats, also worked briefly on a goat farm
before buying my own. I just had them tied in their stalls, with hay
in front of them. Then I lifted each foot up, bent bacl at the knee,
and trimmed away, with strong clippers (I think kind that could cut
any number of tough materials- from hardware store). Never had any
trouble. I had 2 goats, then three. Also, I had built the shed, with
my father’s instructions, and we had a few acres of land. Devils
when they get loose! But I loved them. The goats did have their
fenced in yard, though. Cutting hooves, I don’t remember having any
trouble with that. Laura Voigt. This is not quite jewelery!

Don't consign your work. Experience has taught me that people are
far more motivated to sell when their own money is invested. If you
are going to hold out and stick to your guns, hold out for cash.

Please note that Barbara Heinrich says she always begins working
with galleries on a consignment basis. After a year or two, she then
“gently” (I think that’s her word) moves them to cash. It seems to
work for her! But then, when she begins to work with a gallery, she
visits, does trainings with sales staff, etc. A big investment, with
a big pay off.

Lisa Orlando

Option two, open a retail store, stock it full of whatever you
want. 

Or find a willing consignment gallery, price your work for
wholesale, and stock the consignment gallery with whatever you want.
You might even get 10% more for it, if the split is 60/40 instead of
50% as in wholesale selling. It might take a while to develop such a
relationship with a gallery, but it can be worth its weight in gold.
If you get in a good consignment gallery, and they start selling more
and more of your work, they may become willing to give you more and
more space in their cases. Works for me. I do production jewelry, at
popular prices, by the way. I keep most of my one-offs for my display
at retail craft fairs, though a few go to the galleries.

M’lou Brubaker, Jeweler
Goodland, MN
www.craftswomen.com

A very interesting thread, this. Simply put, consignment is
charity 

Excusssse meeeee!!!

There are things said on this forum about consignment that burn my
butt. My perception is that here seems to be some unjust prejudice
from some posters unhappy with their experience with consigning. If
the poster has any responsibility for why they had problems, you
would not know from what is posted.

I have a retail store, I have artists that consign. They have other
galleries and retail venues that they consign through. Most also do
shows. Different artists do different numbers, usually based on price
points, or uniqueness of design. The artists at my store usually sell
more pieces at Valentine’s Day, Christmas, Mothers Day, which
coincidently is when most of all other jewelry is sold. The rest of
the year things might be slow. That is not the store owners fault,
that is retail.

If you cannot afford to have enough stock to supply enough stores, do
not try to intimate in any way that the store owner is responsible
for your work not selling. As long as they are keeping it clean and
well displayed. they might be doing all they can. Jewelry is a
product, and it is your job to find the people who see value in what
you do, feel that they have customers that can relate to your work,
and see it as an opportunity for more that just filling their display
cases. As far as the owner liking your work and selling it, people
have to respond to it to sell it. I know, I also do art jewelry as
well as contemporary work, and my work just sits there looking back
at me no matter how much “Oh look what I do” advertising I do of my
own stuff. I sell a piece here and there, but I have other art
jewelers that sell better than I do!!! At Christmas I sold a couple
a hundred dollars of my work and an artist I show did over $5000
retail at my store, $3000 at another gallery, and she did several
show $1600 being the worst one. If you have a lot of stock in stores
on consignment, and it is not selling, perhaps it is your
workmanship, the design, choice of stones…

Some work initially sells really well, and then the regular
customers get used to it, and it slows down.

Case space is like real estate, and I have to make that space pay
it’s way. I have to merchandise your work. That means making people
aware of it, putting in in their hand, getting them to try it on. I
also am the owner of the store, and I have a vested interest in
making pieces that I don’t have to buy, move. It reduces my
inventory costs, which is a benefit only if I can sell it. If the
store owner has half a brain, they can replace consignment work that
does not sell with something that does, whether it is purchased or
other consignment.

If someone opinions that someone else should not do consignment,
they might be advising someone not to use the only way that persons
work might be seen. My consignees are very grateful for me, as I am
for them, as it should be.

Rant Over,

Richard Hart

Richard, you said

A bumpy road at times, a passion that consumed thousands of dollars
before I ever made any money. 

How very true - your posting was a delight to read and so absolutely
true to the experience that I think many of us have had. I’m now in
the “hobby” stage and loving it - and I’m still spending dollars
easily and happily and occasionally sell something but I would dare
say I’m hardly breaking even and I don’t even care. This is just such
a wonderful gift that we have - to be passionate about metal, stones,
beads, wire, fire and frustrations, but when it works, it’s a very
heady feeling.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

K

Noel, did you ever think that maybe they were just being polite to
you with their overbought explanation? [snip]... not really in
vogue (at least not here in northern Ohio!). Could you please give
us some idea what your individual retail prices are (or were) for
these pieces? 

Truthfully, no it didn’t… But that gallery didn’t have the work
that is in my Orchid gallery. They had my low-end production work
that runs $65-$300 retail. The pieces in the Orchid gallery are in
the $500 and up range-- the teapot piece sold at Mobilia for $8000.
Most of my signature narrative pieces run $400 to $800 retail.

All the pieces you see there are jewelry, however-- even the teapot
has a teapot pin in it (middle shelf, on the right).

Noel

Thank you Richard. I have been on both sides of the fence and have
to agree with you.

Case space is like real estate, and I have to make that space pay
it's way. I have to merchandise your work

This is business. Plain and simple. The galleries that don’t learn
it don’t stay open.

If my work is not moving at a location ( I am in 5) I look first to
see if they are doing their marketing. If they are then I have to
look at my work and evaluate if this is the right venue for my style
and price.

I have one location that moves the copper work steadily, it won’t
move at the other locations at all. So, I put very little copper
elsewhere.

I pulled out of one location last fall because nothing was moving
there. The people running it were a bunch of rich ladies playing at
being artists. They only promoted their work. Everyone else was there
to make them look good. Not good marketing. They are closed now.

My own feeling is that if you don’t like the gallery cut, open your
own business. That commission is simply the cost of doing business.
Both sides have to do their homework, quality control, and marketing
for both to be successful.

Gallery commissions are the cost of doing business…just like
advertising, show fees, hiring help, etc. What is not profitable
drop, What is profitable, discover why and reinforce. This goes for
the gallery owner as well as the artist.

Bill Churlik
@Bill_Churlik
www.earthspeakarts.com

Excusssse meeeee!!!!!!!!!!! 

Well…ok…excuse you indeed…lol… I believe you have just
succeeded in making all of the points that some of us were attempting
to make in recommending others never to consign their work. In fact,
you have absolutely cemented the very just prejudice to consignment
that I had already developed over years of experience.

I have a retail store, I have artists that consign. They have other
galleries and retail venues that they consign through. Most also do
shows. Different artists do different numbers, usually based on
price points, or uniqueness of design. The artists at my store
usually sell more pieces at Valentine's Day, Christmas, Mothers
Day, which coincidently is when most of all other jewelry is sold.
The rest of the year things might be slow. That is not the store
owners fault, that is retail.

Not necessarily. Some galleries have a great perception of what their
customers want. Others do not have a clue. Stores and galleries are
only a reflection of their owner’s and buyer’s taste. That does not
mean that they have good taste, or the same taste as the customers in
their region, they just like a certain style that may or may not
resonate with their customer base. I have galleries in some areas
that do not sell my work well. It is obviously the wrong style or
price point for their area. They haven’t gotten that yet, but that is
their responsibility, not mine. I have other stores that sell
everything I send them within weeks. My work is to their customer’s
taste. We all love each other of course. They think my work is
brilliant, and I think that they are the best and most beautiful
galleries and stores on the entire planet. In actuality, it is just
these particular stores have an intelligent grasp of their customer
base and my style of work just happens to match it. Other places
sell sporadically, but love my work, and work hard to sell it as they
have made an investment. Trust me, if you have spent money on an
object in order to make money, you want to make that money a lot
worse than if you have not laid out anything.

do not try to intimate in any way that the store owner is
responsible for your work not selling. 

Ah, but it IS the store owner’s fault if work does not sell, as that
is evidence that they do not know the taste of their customer base,
which is again the whole point. If my work is not to your customer’s
taste, then don’t buy it. It won’t sell no matter how you display it,
or how clean you keep it. In some regions, a jeweler’s style is so
out of keeping with regional taste, you couldn’t give the stuff away.
If how clean you keep your artist’s work is one of the main selling
tactics, then I can see where problems may arise… (that’s a
joke…I hope)… Don’t blame me because you don’t know what your
customers will buy. In wholesale, they aren’t my actual customers,
only because I never meet them. You are my customer. I only have to
sell to you, for your taste. It is up to you to figure out their
taste.

Jewelry is a product, and it is your job to find the people who see
value in what you do

Wrong again…It is YOUR job to see value in what I do…for your
particular store, and your particular area. It is my job to make my
product to the best of my ability. To ask me to, (essentially), pay
to decorate your store with my work, while you do or do not figure
out what the heck your customer’s taste is makes me laugh. It also
makes me angry. If you are not willing to invest in me, why the heck
should I invest in you? This is business. Even though I may well like
you, you are not my buddy or my family.

Now if you do buy some of my work, I am willing during the holidays
to consign some of the radically more expensive pieces just to get
you some extra attention and make a really exciting showing, but only
for that season. As you have supported me, you have now given me a
reason to support you.

Some work initially sells really well, and then the regular
customers get used to it, and it slows down.

Yes, and that is when you buy another artists work. A constant
rotation, or if you’re lucky, your favorite jeweler’s are
continually evolving their work so that it does not become stale.
Customers always respond to new stuff.

Galleries and stores are quite simply put, my customers. they respond
to me the exact same way their customers respond to them. I am
essentially a store. I have a grasp of my customer’s taste, and they
buy my work, or I am living in a dream world, and will starve because
no one will buy my work. Unless of course, I am supported by my day
job, ( that I don’t have), or my, (non-existent), spouse, in which
case, I don’t have to do this to feed myself or keep me, my son, the
goats, chickens, horse, cats, dogs and parrots from living in my car,
and I can make anything I please as no one has to buy it for me to
continue to la-di-dah my way through the wholesale/retail world.

If the only way an artist feels they can be seen is to do
consignment, then they haven’t dug in their heels hard enough, or
they have another source of income, or all of their work is priced
so astronomically high, then it becomes solely an art gallery
venture…Take my advice… Just say no!

Out of curiosity, would you allow your customers to take things home
from your store, try them out for a while, decorate themselves or
their house with your stuff, use it for months or years at a time,
dirty it, inflict wear and tear, perhaps damage it, break it, or
lose it, and then send it back, without paying you first…? Or
perhaps forgetting to pay you at all? Or insisting that they never
took that piece in the first place? No??? Well neither will I. That
is essentially consignment. Don’t ask me to do what you wouldn’t do
yourself. You are right, it is bad for business. Mine.

On the other hand, I will work with you to make my jewelry work for
you. I will accept exchanges after three months and within one year
with the accompanying receipts. You may have initially misjudged
price points or style. It is in my best interest to have you as a
successful return customer. I will try hard to accomplish that goal.

I have customers who have bought my work at every show for the past
14 years. I worship them… :slight_smile: Of course I, like everyone else, also
have the occasional one time customer that walks by my booth and just
glares at me as if it is my fault. Ai yi yi.

For the most part, things don’t sell because your customers don’t
like them. Figure it out, and buy accordingly…Do not ask me to
fund you. This is not the bank of Lisa. You are not my teenager.

Now let’s hear everyone else’s rants…lol…

Lisa, ( wrestled down goats, sat on them and successfully trimmed
their hooves using pruning shears, as I have done for the last two
years. Thanks for all of the good goat advice guys. Did I mention
that they weigh 200 pounds each and have horns? I weigh about a
hundred…EEEK!! On the up side, they are as sweet and as docile as a
cat in the sun, and there are only two of them: Axel and Puck).

Consignment isn’t charity…don’t forget that any retail outlet
still has to pay rent, utilities, payroll. If the work there doesn’t
sell the store goes out of business!

I have a consignment art gallery with 60 plus artists showing their
work. I am also one of those artists. The artists who consign in my
gallery get paid on a monthly basis when their work sells. I get
paid when my work sells. I agree with the comments below!

... Too many have Wal-Mart mentality. Just my opinion. 

I believe the more realistic statement could be, Too many people
have a WalMart pocket.

When I walk through our local Malls, or WalMarts, and see the many
cropped haired military young men going into those jewelry
departments, to proudly buy a “genuine colored stone” set in a 14K
gold, piece of jewelry for their young lady before deployment, I am
happy.

There are two reasons, first they are treasuring a piece of jewelry,
second, they may in the future have the financial stability to step
up in quality for their next purchase. Exposure is far more
important. It is like your first bite into a chocolate chip cookie,
far more likely to be a store brand before you discover a bakery
baked one.

I treasured 14K until I first went into Europe and discovered 18K.
Later I went into the Middle East and Orient to find 22K or more.
I’ve never looked back.

It is far too easy to disdain the Mall Chains or the WalMarts, I
hardly believe we are losing potential customers there, I rather
believe, that is where they begin their education.

Terrie

Sorry Lisa, Richard got it right on. Let me guess, if the store
rejects your work than the buyer either has bad taste or is out of
touch with the public? Goes back to my post, open your own store and
see how what it takes to be on the other side.

Eric

Lisa,

    I believe you have just succeeded in making all of the points
that some of us were attempting to make in recommending others
never to consign their work. In fact, you have absolutely cemented
the very just prejudice to consignment that I had already developed
over years of experience. 

I am glad I was able to be of service.

The rest of this might just be a lot of “blah blah blah”. Evidently
we have quite different points of view about this subject. I feel
that some other gallery or store owners would not appreciate some of
your opinions expressed in reply to my post.

I would like to make the point that depending on the type of work
you do has bearing on who you try to sell or consign to. Someone
doing boutiques and “craft stores” and shows would attract a
different type of venue to wholesale to than say, Michael Zobel,
Harold O’Connor, Jeff and Susan Wise, Michael Boyd, Susan Hemlich
wholesale to.

Look up Mobilia, Patina, Aaron Faber. Those galleries are high end
craft galleries, and if you wanted to sell there, you would be doing
consignment if your work was of the caliber to be in those
galleries. That opens the door for more visibility for an artist to
have access to collectors of high end work. Reality of that world,
and if you wanted to play there, you would be doing it their way.
Seems to be how you get the big bucks for high end pieces. Bringing
Michael Zobel’s work in through customs from Germany for a show at
Patina cost $20,000! If you know the parameters, you would know if
you can met them or not, and accept your (our) limitations.

If I have four artists in my store that consign, I believe I have
more experience in representing and selling artists work and I pose
that I have a more objective overview on retail and consignment. You
sound like a you have had some bad experiences, and I am sorry that
you went through that. Your experience is not indicative of what
someone else would go through. I know people who have bad
experiences occasionally, but I know more about successes where they
have made their living for years by consigning.

I am in my 14th year of retail, and I am not bragging, but as a mom
and pop operation with one full time and one part time employee, we
do over $250,000 gross a year, 80% sterling silver jewelry.

Now, you mention some stores sell your work within a few weeks of
getting it, so I wonder, if you gave them twice as much as they
ordered, half on consignment, might you possibly sell more in the
same amount of time? If you had stores selling your work faster than
others, seems like it would make sense to supply them with more than
they bought if the object is to sell more work, if you can produce
enough. You can be as adamant as you need to be, what I do works for
me, and my consignees, and my store, and my customers and that is
what matters. Your opinions limit you more they affect me.

The vision of my wife and I was to create an environment to show
work where the customer feels comfortable shopping, and that is what
we created. We are complimented often as to price and/or selection
and/or quality, and how comfortable it is to shop there. Men tell us
frequently that we make it easy for them to be successful in picking
out something for their wife. Our employees are really happy working
for us. “Best job I’ve ever had.”

And someone we buy from, upon seeing our selection of merchandise
told us he was honored to have his jewelry in our store. So the point
you might be getting might not be the point I be making. And I
believe lol is “lots of luck”, and my definition of luck is
knowledge and skill applied.

Richard Hart

Richard Hart

Well said, Richard. For those of us who do not own retail stores,
this is a very viable way of getting the exposure we need, without
the monthly rent. Like you noted, many artists have to use many
different combinations of things to sell their work. I do artist
coops (low percentage in exchange for working a few shifts),
consignment, paying rent in a gallery with 10% taken from the sale,
and shows. Pricing, argh… always difficult- but it really makes you
think about reality. What is too high? What is just not acceptable
below "this " price… etc… We all want the pieces to move, and in
my experience, when someone falls in love with it, they will buy it.
Many may just admire it. (and I suppose many may scoff), oh well.
After all, it is art, you either see it or you don’t.

In conclusion, what I really meant to say is that ALL the exposure
you get helps to create a desire for your work, in my opinion, which
will help your sales in the long run.

Laura

do not try to intimate in any way that the store owner is
responsible for your work not selling. 
I have to disagree here. I have had good and bad experiences with
consigning work. On my bad experience: The gallery was local,
whenever they would ask for more work, I would deliver it in
person. They had many reasons why my work was not "currently" on
display. I have no idea how they sold any of it, as it never
seemed to be anywhere in sight. I gently told them I was "taking
my work in another direction" which is exactly what I should have
done. No regrets, no hard feelings. Sometimes the store owners are
reponsible for the work not selling, but it is my responsibility
to go elsewhere if I am not happy. There are many places to
consign my work and if I don't do well at one (for whatever
reason) I will do well at another. 

Lisa, it is quite understandable that you have had a few bad
experiences with consigning your work. We all have had bad
experiences and we have all learned from them (one would hope).
Don’t, however, take your own personal experiences and make blanket
statements about an entire industry. Consignment isn’t charity, it’s
a very real business, with very real benefits. They don’t consign
your work at holiday to make themselves look good, they do it to
make money. Your doing yourself a disservice by completely
discounting consignment based on some bad apples. There are many new
business people on this list who read your posts with great
interest, gleaning all the info they can from your experience. To
tell them things like “all consignment is charity” and “trust me,
don’t do it” is completely irresponsible and unfair to them.

My good experience: I have been consigning my work with a local art
center for 3 (I think) years now. In the beginning, my work sucked,
no doubt about it. They were kind, supportive, and offered helpful
advice. Now that I have caught on (somewhat) and my work (in their
words) is selling like hotcakes, they are glad they had patience and
I am grateful for their understanding. It has been a mutually
supportive relationship. They key is mutual. If you don’t respect
people, they won’t respect you. If you hold out on offering any
support to anyone until they have shown that they can be beneficial
to you, then you are missing out on some great relationships.

Kim Starbard
Cove Beads

Well Richard:
Regarding your rant…

My consignees are very grateful for me, as I am for them, as it
should be. " 

Wow what attitude!

Let’s look at some facts, shall we? Many retail shops that consign
jewelry do not have adequate insurance in case of damage to their
shop or theft. Heck, most don’t even have adequate burglar systems.
Do you pay your consignees if an item gets stolen or damaged in your
shop? Most don’t. In some states, if your store goes out of business
with my jewelry in your shop, my jewelry becomes YOUR property to be
foreclosed on to settle your debts whether you have paid me for it or
not. Do you and your consignees have a written contract that you both
adhere to? When I mentioned this at the shops I was about to consign
with, all suddenly backed off.

I believe that there are very few of us -who seriously are trying to
make a living at this without wealthy benefactors - that have enough
money in our budget to comfortably supply numerous retail
consignment stores such as yours. Perhaps that is why some people
look at it as “charity.” It is something that beginning and mid-level
artisans must seriously think about before undertaking. Consider that
not every retail store takes good care of their consignments. For
over a year, the store owner and her employees felt it was proper
advertising to wear my peices both in and out of the store. Yes, it
sold very well but they didn’t feel the need to watch how they
treated the items much less clean them for that matter. And when they
tired of the current stock or wanted something new, guess who they
called to take back the old and bring them something new? I am not in
business to be someone’s personal jewery box and have it trashed
while it’s “being advertised.” Let’s not even talk about the items
that got “lost” and were never to be seen again. I stuck with the
store because I was a “beginner” and didn’t know any better at the
time…but hey, I should be very grateful for this!

Case space is like real estate, and I have to make that space pay
it's way. I have to merchandise your work. That means making
people aware of it, putting in in their hand, getting them to try
it on. I also am the owner of the store, and I have a vested
interest in making pieces that I don't have to buy, move. It
reduces my inventory costs, which is a benefit only if I can sell
it. 

May I ask, do you sell items in your store which you have already
paid for? Sounds like you do. You have made them pay their way or you
don’t worry about it as much so why should my jewelry be any
different? Yes, I know jewelry is a big ticket item, but that’s the
biz of jewelry. Artists face this in quantity when they consign their
art over to shop in hopes of a sale.

If the store owner has half a brain, they can replace consignment
work that does not sell with something that does, whether it is
purchased or other consignment. 

If you know of items that you buy and DO sell, why aren’t you BUYING
and selling them? The impression that I am getting is that you WANT
to put your money into BUYING OTHER things to stock your store
–things other than my jewelry. You want your artists to take risk
but you yourself want none of it. To me, a retail owner is far more
motivated to sell my jewelry when he/she has 100% of their own money
invested in it (ie. wholesale arrangement), not just the 50-60%
commission they MIGHT get if they happen to sell it.

Just my .02
Kennedi

My consignees are very grateful for me, as I am for them, as it
should be. 

Yes, I’m insured, Yes, I pay when items are damaged or stolen, and
Yes, I have a burglar alarm system. I don’t own the work, the
Artists consigning do. They can take it out of my store at any time -
per the agreement that protects both myself and them.

Forclosure/ bankruptsy. I’ve dealt with consignment galleries before
opening my own. When they went bankrupt, all the artists were
informed to pick up their work that the store was closing. If you
were stupid enough to not comply, I guess you’d lose your work, but
that would be your fault, not the fault of the gallery.

Let me also add… Just because someone thinks their art is GREAT
doesn’t mean it will sell (anywhere) And while consigning in a
gallery, you’re not paying fees to show your work for more than a
weekend - consigning contracts are generally for 6 weeks or more.
There is NO COST to the artists - unless of course, they are
involved in a coop consignment gallery - that’s a horse of a
different color.

Kennedi and others,

My store is alarmed, I have a safe, I am insured, I have never lost
a consignees piece and if I did I would pay them. We put jewelry out
as soon as we inventory it in, and my wife is absolutely fabulous at
doing display. One of our artists is going to the Rosen show and
asked for her help in designing her display.

There is a system that exists, that all my consignees have been a
part of with other venues where they consign, they were doing it
before I worked with them and when we talk about consigning they
have no problem with it. Why do you if they don’t? All your
theoretical ponderings and assumptions are not as valid as the cash
I produce for the artists that work with me.

When I write my post, I am pretty aware of what I will get in
response. If you have issues, try to be aware and don’t put them on
me. I used to do production casting for some of the artists I show. I
made parts they created, I sold the pieces to them as wholesale
castings, and they add stones, ect, and then give some of the pieces
back to me finished , on consignment, to sell retail. Sounds like
win-win to me.

I hope you get the picture that these are working relationships, I
help them make money, they help me make money. I have worked on
their masters before I mold them so they come out the best quality
possible, and I did not charge for my time or skill. I knew I would
make it up in the volume of castings they ordered, as they sold more
having better castings. Try finding someone that will do that for
you. My customers were with me for up to 12 years, until
circumstances required me to cut down on the volume of casting I was
doing. They were loyal to me, and I was loyal to them.

One point, those of you who have posed that if I invest money in
work that I would have more desire to sell it, or I would make more
effort, be more motivated…you are as wrong as you can be and you
just don’t know it… Trying to explain why would be a waste of time,
you have your opinion or prejudice about my motives, and you have
not met me, have not done business with me. I have earned respect
from the people I do business with by being honest and ethical and
consistent. I have learned how to connect with my customers, have a
dialogue, find out what they are looking for, and help them by
meeting their need. I am never short, frustrated, or anxious in
front of my customer. And if they apologize for taking up my time, I
tell them that I am happy to help them and they can take as much
time as they want. It is not about how I feel, it is about how my
customer feels. About 80% of customers make a purchase.

Every customer is like a friend I have not seen for a while. It does
not hurt to think of your customer as your boss, they are the one
paying you your paycheck. And that attitude for me means that I
treat people I have just met with respect, and my experience is if
you treat people with respect, they in return show you respect.

This is not a selling technique, it is a spiritual principle, and it
just really helps me get over myself. I am always surprised at how I
prejudge, and them something unexpected happens that shows me that
acting as if you expect a good outcome, that’s what happens far more
often than not.

There are people who are high maintenance, and I have to bite my
tongue, or have pseudo-Tourrets after they leave. Most of the
relationships I have with other jewelers and with customers
energizes me and supports me in what I am doing, and it feels great.

Many thanks to those who have posted supportive responses. Doing
this is a risk sometimes.

Richard Hart

Hehehe…Knew I would put a burr under some people’s saddles…
Richard…gotta love you. You sound as though you run a nice
responsible business, and you sound like a nice guy. Wish I could say
the same for many store/gallery owners. As a matter of fact, I did
not say consignment was charity, that’s another poster. I said: “just
say no”. I still mean it. At the median level, there isn’t much
return to consignment for an aritst. I have already beaten that
equine past its demise, so I won’t torture you by reiterating.

You may yet get the last laugh, as I am going into the Zobel price
realm this coming show go round, (note the word, “price”…I am
not…repeat: NOT comparing myself to Michael’s great work…don’t
make me laugh), and I fully expect to have to do some consignment,
some 30-60-90 terms etc…price of admission to that level, however,
stores at that level tend to take exquisite care of the jewelry in
their care, although I have seen a very few exceptions to that too.
My background is in fine art sculpture, and all work in fine art
galleries is essentially consignment, but nobody wears the stuff
around the shop, and it never comes back dirty or broken, and the
shops are insured. A reeeeeaaaaally good point that Kennedi made.

If ol’ Eric had actually read my posting, instead of just getting his
britches in a twist at the mere sniff of my intent, then he would
have noticed that I repeatedly stated that all buyers, wholesale or
retail buy according to their own p e r s o n a l taste. Again, that
doesn’t mean their taste is good. Read that over to yourselves a few
times. Its just THEIR taste. Haven’t you seen really successful
stores that sell stuff that make you actually writhe in pain?
Yargh!!! Word-up Eric: If a store is buying my work, I can almost
guar-an-tee that they are out of touch with the public, as most of
the buying public would look at my jewelry and say: “What the hell is
that!!??” I’m lucky that 35 to 40 galleries in any given year seem to
be able to regularly buy and sell the stuff I make, although I just
know I am gonna piss off a lot of faithful stores by going 22k on
them. No doubt they will drop me like a hot taco.

Oh…and I have no interest at all in running a store as the hoi
polloi makes me break out in a rash. That is why I do only wholesale
or commission work…get it?

I’ll let you know if I fall flat on my face at the shows…Then you
can do a jig. In the mean time, I am just about to send out some new
pieces to Hap Sakwa to photograph. Promise…when I get the pix back,
I will finally post to the gallery so you can all look wide eyed at
at the things I slave over and laugh quietly in the privacy of your
own homes.

Lisa, (Winds at 60mph around here tonight. Please…don’t anyone
light a match. )Topanga, CA USA