Sorry guys - I hit the send key when I meant to hit the “save draft”
key…Orchid seems like a new place lately, in a good way…
Thanks John
Hi John, Getting curious, any change to see a picture?
Well I never, of course, read my own posts and here I thought our
website signature was there, but it’s not - our work is at
DonivanAndMaggiora Redesigned earlier this year and
I’m sorry I just didn’t type captions so far.
Still puzzling away, Brian.
I said, over and over and over and over and over again, that I am
talking about business -what some or all of this has to do with
making a living. I’m just having a conversation, and I’ve enjoyed
reading the responses.
A couple of years ago I said that the jewelry industry does, indeed,
have standards andwas shouted down by some rather belligerent
replies. One being that if they’re not written down they aren’t
standards, like anything in the jewelry tradition has been written
down until the modern era. The fact that someone is unaware of
things doesn’t mean they don’t exist and that’s it about that. The
notion that a centuries old, world wide industry has no common
language about the relativity of all things is quite humorous. And
that’s it about that.
Last night I had one of those middle of the night revelations about
this thread - many of these people are ~silversmiths~. That some
don’t actually live off jewelry certainly means something but I
won’t go there. This explains much.
So, yesterday I used an example of making a simple opal bezel ring
and I started with stock silver bezel wire. Then went to a split
shank and I said, “double the labor, double the weight”. This is
where the silversmithing comes in - of course nobody cares much if
it’s double the weight in silver, considering we’re talking about
under 5 grams in either case. I don’t even weigh silver jewelry on
the rare occasions I make it - it’s either over or under ten bucks,
that’s all.
Making it in 14kt. gold is quite another matter - our simple ringis
$300, the split shank is $450 and the more elaborate one I wrote is
more like $750 - not real pricing, of course, just relative costs.
In 18kt you can add 20% to each, or a round 25-50 dollars. In
platinum you canpretty much just double everything.
You can argue about quality all you like but one thing that is not
debatable is that more gold is higher quality and people generally
think platinum is higher quality than gold and certainly gems have
been largely quantified by the gemology trade, GIA being a large
part of that. Well, you could argue but no one in the real worldwill
listen to you. All being in proportion to the piece - there’s such a
thing as too much gold for the design.
Widen each gold shank by 1/2 mm and you add 20% or more, widen each
platinum shank by the same and you add a hundred bucks to each ring.
Add a couple of GH, SI melee to the split shank and it adds, say,
$100. Change that to D Flawless - the highest quality diamonds
without any doubt - and it adds more like $500.
So, the point. The point is that in the real world of a jewelry
business, today’s overall quality might be different from
tomorrow’s. People here like to say, at times, things like how they
only work to the highest standards. Well, some in this world do, but
not many. Unless your work is all 18kt or better with D flawless
stones or the best colored stonesin the world then you certainly
don’t. To the best of your ability, sure, I’ll buy that. Being in
the jewelry business - doesn’t matter if it’s my work or your work -
is an ever changing interplay between materials cost, labor and the
biggest unknown of them all - your customer, whether it be an
individual, a price point or a marketplace. Lots of people make lots
of things and some of those things are just for fun - me, too. By
andlarge the reality - OUR reality - is that we have to sell it.
Almost all of the time that means some reasonable compromise and
interplay between labor and materials that we and the customer are
both happy with. Very, very few buyers in our everyday world want to
pay for D Flawless stones - the industry average is G-H Si. Many of
the chains are going well below that. Very, very few buyers want to
pay an extra ten thousand because it’s polished so well or various
other factors. What most of them want is good or even great jewelry
at a good price. They are usually working people too, after all.
It’s a partnership - we give them a quality they want, more
importantly, what they are comfortable paying for, and they keep us
in business. I’m very good at what I do - never in a million years
would I say that I only work to the highest quality. Sometimes I
try…
John D.