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#1

Hi all !

I will be one of those attending Tucson for the first time and I am
beginning to PANIC!

I have been reading the posts regarding the show and tips ( thank all
of you for this )in Tucson and I am thinking this is all beyond me/or
my talents. I do not want to waste my time off running around like a
chicken with my head cut off, but I want to see as much as I can. I
hopefully will have all day Sat/ Sun. Can anyone advise me as to the
most productive process since I really do not have a CLUE! I do not
have a room as yet but will have my own car so I can stay out a ways
from the main area, any advise there will also be helpful.

As always thanking you in advance, Karen


#2

Karen,

Different shows specialize in different goods. Are you looking for
cabs, faceted stones, finished jewelry, tools? Some shows require a
resale license. Do you have one? We need more before
we can help very much.

Linda in MA, home of the soon-to-be Super Bowl champion Patriots!


#3

Karen,

Consider going to the Holidome. Spend an entire day there at the
inside show, plus all the tents housing other large manufacturers,
such as Blake Bros. Many smaller retailers and wholesalers are there
too. You can also consider attending Rio’s Catalogue in Motion at
the East Hilton. There you will see demonstrated many of the tools,
machines, etc. you read about here on Orchid.

There is nothing to fear, you will not be spinning your wheels.
There are other venues such as the Tucson Electric Park where a
large number of large and small businesses are set up. the variety
and choice are great.

Once you arrive in Tucson, take the time to look over Colored Stones
Show Guide readily available if you have not already received one by
subscription.

Look around you, there are many kindred spirits around.

Terrie


#4

Karen,

Not sure which sat/sun you will be in Tucson. I spend two weeks
starting the 28th of January and can no longer see it all.

Each show has its strengths and weaknesses and your choice should
depend on what you are looking to buy. In 1997 I did a piece for
National Jeweler a sort of survivors guide to Tucson. Its a bit
dated and a few shows have moved but it still covers the bases so I
will paste it here and let the moderator decided whether to include
it.

Hope to meet you at the Orchid dinner
Richard
www.rwwise.com

  Surviving Tucson; Or How to so Twenty Eight Gem Shows in Two
  Weeks Without Breaking a Sweat 

  By Richard W. Wise, G.G., 
  Gemology Columnist 


  Tucson is a must, a true rite de passage for jewelers.  This
  is where you find out "whats new!" and more importantly, at
  what price?  We have been making the annual February
  pilgrimage for fifteen years and each year Tucson gets a
  little bigger.  The 1996 tally was twenty four shows, not
  counting gas stations.  Last year, for the first time, we
  missed two shows.  I know what you're thinking,  "two shows,
  big deal!" 

  Tucson 97 is bigger than ever before!  Twenty eight shows,
  stretching from January 26 through February 16th for a record
  twenty-two days. Fortunately not all of these shows are of
  particular interest to jewelers. This review will cover just
  nine shows which we believe will give you  the meat as well as
  a bit of the spice that makes Tucson the show of shows.  The
  schedule is rigorous, the strategy is simple to get to each
  show on opening day. 

  Fortunately the weather is Tucson is sunny and mild, averaging
  between 68-75 degrees during the day.  Jewelers attempting to
  follow this guide are advised to loose the pin striped suit.
  Wear loose fitting cotton clothing, a light jacket with lots of
  pockets, a comfortable pair of walking shoes and perhaps a hat
  and sunglasses. Also, bring a stack of business cards and half
  dozen copies of your business license.  Warning: National
  Jeweler recommends that you check with your family doctor
  before embarking on any program of vigorous exercise. 

DAY ONE: 1/26/97

  The first show to officially open its doors is "Jump-start" at
  the Rodeway Inn on January 26.  The Rodeway is a good show
  because many dealers who show later at G&LW's Holidome get
  started at the Rodeway.  The show is a mix with everything from
  Brazilian goods to oriental rugs, some finished jewelry and
  findings.  This year Jump-start adds 50 booths for a total of
  225.  Its small enough to do in a day with time out for a brief
  lunch. 

  If your looking for fine colored stones, Rodeway is usually a
  waste.  However, a few years ago we came across a tender young
  gem cutter, first year in Tucson,  with no idea about New York
  wholesale prices.  This year the management predicts a
  twenty-five percent dealer turnover.  Need we say more? 

  The Peublo Inn opens the very next day, January 27th.  This
  show takes several days to crank itself up to full volume,
  which is approximately 185 dealers.  The smart money often
  shows up a few days early, say on the 25th. The tent and lobby
  have yet to set up but many of the first floor rooms will be
  open and a lot of dealing goes on before the official opening. 

DAY TWO & THREE 1/28, 1/29/97

  The Peublo is one of our favorite shows.  You can find
  anything here from fine ruby and aquamarine to gem Silica and
  Tibetan singing bowls.  How about a Komodo Dragon handcarved
  in fossilized ivory?  You can get it at the Peublo.  There is
  one guy, set up in the lobby, who will sell you a complete
  dinosaur skeleton.  Looking to raise your visibility? 
  Consider the impact of a forty foot  stegosaurus right in
  front of your store window.  Chances are you won't even be
  violating the local sign ordinance. 

  The Peublo is layed out in a square with the tent forming the
  back quarter.  The inner courtyard has a pool and a number of
  small tents selling Thai, Chinese and Greek fast food.  Last
  year they added a salad vendor. This is a great place for
  lunch if you are tired of TexMex.  Speaking of Mexican, Tucson
  is the place to eat Mexican provided your Cholesterol count is
  under 200. 

  To do the Peublo right takes two days.  And thats about all we
  have because both AGTA and GLDA which are known as the "Big
  shows" among the cognoscenti, open on the 29th. 

  South of the Peublo along the I-10 access road there is a
  string of motels and each one hosts a show.  This is the place
  to find mineral specimens, bolo ties, Mexican Jewelry, African
  masks and 5,000 lb. Brazilian Amethyst geodes.  Several of
  these shows are open into the evening 

  So if you are a real glutton for punishment, take a walk! 

  Perhaps a better suggestion; have an early dinner and get a
  good nights sleep because the preliminaries are over, tomorrow
  starts the main event. 

DAY FOUR: 1/30/97

  Which to do first.  Both shows are well established and most
  of the dealers are old hands.  Given the choice we will hit
  GLDA.  The shows are located about 1,000 yards apart but with
  pre registration you can walk right into GLDA show at the
  Holiday Inn Broadway or wait in line to have your AGTA
  credentials validated  at the Tucson Convention Center.  This
  tactic gives us about a one hour shopping advantage and an
  hour can be forever in Tucson. We will get our AGTA
  credentials validated the second day of the show when there is
  usually no line. 

  GLDA is a big show, 374 dealers.  There are dealers stuffed
  into every hallway and function room on the first and second
  floors.  So, unless you know someone it doesn't really matter
  where you start.  Its easy to lose your bearings and every
  year we see a few of the Tucson Lotus Eaters, unfortunate
  buyers, glassy eyed and babbling, wandering aimlessly through
  the halls.  One of the highlights is the Intergem group from
  Idar Oberstein, Germany in the upper Starlight room.  We
  attended this years Intergem in Germany.  If you are looking
  for exceptional quality in carvings, cameos and exquisitely
  cut stones, this area is a must. 

  Other than the German group there is no logic to GLDA. 
  However over the years certain informal groupings have
  emerged.  Second floor Mezzanine "gemstone row" is where you
  will find the precision cutters.  Very fine well cut
  traditional gems mostly cut in the U. S.  There is a Sri
  Lankan group in the Mezzanine room at the end of the row. 
  Pearls, opals and Brazilian dealers are usually found on the
  lower level in the Empire Ballroom.  There are always good
  deals to be found. One piece of advise, if you see something
  you like don't hesitate.  These waters are full of sharks! 

  Ok, its the end of the fourth day and you brain is getting
  ready to short out.  You've spent the day at GLDA and seen
  about half of it, found a few good buys and you are worried
  that all the good picks will be taken at AGTA before you get
  there.  To make things worse GJX opens tomorrow as well.
  GLDA!, AGTA!, GJX!  what to do? 

  We like X!.  The show is now in its third year.  GJX started
  with 165 booths in 1995 and grew to 254 last year.  This year
  it remains the same size but has moved on the property so that
  the entrance is directly across the street from the Convention
  Center.  X was certainly the most exciting show of 1996.  So,
  we hedge our bets, arrive early and park at AGTA saunter in
  and get our credentials stamped and spend the morning
  strolling down the wide half empty aisles. 

  Contrary to what some dealers say, there are buys to be found
  at AGTA! Oddly enough, prices on the big three, ruby sapphire
  and emerald, are often the most competitive at AGTA simply
  because many of the 230 dealers carry them and you can play
  one dealer off against another.  Also, this is the show where
  you will find the finest of the fine. 

  Last year I saw an exceptional four carat Demantoid garnet.  A
  perfectly cut, flawless top-gem Brazilian Emerald and a
  breathtaking two carat padparadcha sapphire from Songea,
  Tanzania to name just a few standouts. AGTA is the place to
  educate your eye and the dealers are quite willing to give you
  pointers, especially mid-week,  Its only thursday!, the big
  crowd comes on the weekend 

  In 1995 AGTA added a New Designers Section.  Last years
  participants were impressive.  If you are not a goldsmith here
  is a chance to buy some exceptional gems and work directly
  with world-class designers who can make them up for you.  The
  70 plus designers in this section are some of the best.  Most
  have won Spectrum awards and they love fine colored stones.
  Along the way from check in to the main hall is the Galleria. 
  Walk slowly! This year AGTA is featuring an exhibet of gem
  sculpture as well as the winners of The Cutting Edge and
  Spectrum competitions in The Galleria. 

  After the cool, ordered, professional ambiance of AGTA we take
  a sunny walk across the street to the tents of GJX. X retains
  some of the charm of the old days in Tucson, that is, its hot
  stuffy and crowded. 

  The rewards can be worth the trouble. Last year we found a
  cluster of small Australian opal dealers toward the middle of
  the tent.  Tahitian black pearls were a specialty last year at
  GJX.  There are several dealers with good inventory sprinkled
  about the aisles. GJX is also a mixed bag but, all gem
  dealers, no specimens or fossils at X. 

DAY FIVE: 1/31/96

  Five shows in four day, not too bad!  Today is consolidation
  day. We have cruised, gotten oriented, checked prices and
  gotten the flavor of  all the majors excepting one. Today we
  do the Dome!  The Holiday Inn Palo Verde known to gemshow
  regulars as the Holidome.  This show has grown dramatically. 
  It requires two huge igloo shaped tents and the whole main
  floor of the hotel.  This show is a bit out of the way, take
  I10 south seven miles to exit 264B (remember B) Palo Verde Rd
  follow Palo Verde for one half mile. 

  The Dome, in a word, has everything:  Gem dealers, pearls,
  equipment, findings, new jewelry, antique jewelry, synthetics,
  etc.  By now we have accumulated so many badges that we look
  like refugees from a VFW parade. So what one more. Sign up
  is in the main hotel lobby. This is the G & L.W. Show and pre
  registration is possible by writing the show sponsors. 

  The lobby is a good place to start.  Lots of interesting
  equipment, everything from gem scales to cobbing hsmmers.  How
  about a gold pan?  From here we can cruise the two function
  rooms that are chock-a- block with dealers.  We rarely find
  anything of interest here and its on to the tents! The tents
  are layed out in long narrow aisles and it is best to go aisle
  by aisle.  Some excellent smaller American cutter/dealers set
  up at the Dome. We have found some exceptional, very well cut
  stones at this show including some designer friendly Boulder
  Opal.  Chinese freshwater pearls are another big item at the
  Holidome.  We will see pearl dealers with big stocks of well
  priced freshwater at this show. 

DAY SIX: 2/1/97

  Survey complete. We have gotten a taste of all the major
  shows. Problem is we need at least a day more at each one of
  them. Today is Saturday and the Jewish Sabbath, so I
  recommend that we go back to AGTA. This is the most popular
  show, Saturday will be crowded but Sunday will be a mob scene. 

DAY SEVEN: 2/2/97

  Its sunday, the major shows are very crowded.  GLDA is open
  til the fifth and GJX doesn't close until the sixth so there
  are two other shows that we are going to take in as a change
  of pace. The first is the Whole Bead Show at the Windmill
  Inn. Wait!, I know what you are thinking but, we are not
  talking peace love and tie-dye here.  Over the past several
  years we have seen a renaissance in hand bead making in the
  United States specifically on the West coast. 

  Most are technically called "lamp-work" beads which describes
  the method of manufacture.  Here you will find seventy
  sophisticated craftspeople whose work often surpasses the
  finest Venetian glass. Each bead is a handmade original. 
  There are also demonstrations. You can see just how these
  tiny works of art are made. Hey!, who is running this tour
  anyhow?,  just get in the car and lets go! 

  The Whole Bead Show is relatively small, about 70 dealers. 
  Actually there are two shows running simultaneously, the other
  is called The Best Bead Show, located at The Southwest Center
  for Music, on North Sixth Avenue. We attended our first show
  here in 1995. As a result my wife designed and strung a
  series of elegant necklaces mixing these beads with pearls. 
  Some craftspeople are selling beads that are completely unique
  as well as some doing small production lines. Those less
  creatively inclined  will find designers who have created a
  line of designer jewelry using these lovely beads. 

DAY EIGHT: 2/3/97

  Still with us?  Today we are going to a rock show.  Not just
  any rock show but, The Executive Inn which houses one of the
  finest specimen, crystal and rock shows in Tucson. 

  Specimens, particularly crystals, make excellent display
  pieces.  Clients ask questions and provide jewelers with the
  opportunity to wax lyrical about the unique genesis, beauty and
  rarity of the cut product. Gems are fascinating! The more
  people learn the more fascinated they become. Don't neglect the
  first floor rooms to the right of the main exhibition hall. 

  The Executive Inn is a long rectangular building with dealers
  located in rooms on either side of a central corridor. The show
  is in its second day. You will find dealers here who go direct
  to sources in Brazil, East Africa and Pakistan. These are
  mostly mineral dealers but, some will also carry cut and rough
  We bought a magnificent 9.50 carat Mt. Mica, Maine
  tourmaline here a few years back. Assuming we have not been
  hung up by the beads, we will spend a profitable afternoon
  here. 

  Nine shows in eight days, not bad!  We have chosen the
  highlights. There are nineteen more shows, the last ending on
  February 16th. Each has something to recommend it. We have
  chosen this group because it is of greatest interest to
  jewelers and few of us can devote two to three weeks going to
  shows. However, if you have a bit more time we suggest The
  Tucson Gem & Mineral Show starting February 13th and oh, yes, I
  almost forgot....!

#5

Dear all go to www.tucsonshowguide.com to plan what shows you really
want to see and where they are and what shuttles to take. Allot of
the shows I have no interest in and write them off right away. No
panic, just planning.

Sam Patania, Tucson
www.patanias.com


#6

Dear Karen,

Please don’t be intimidated by the size and scope of the Tucson
shows. You have indicated, however, that you are going to be limited
timewise and, therefore, you can’t possibly take it all in. This
suggests to me that you should decide beforehand which shows to
attend and which not to attend. I have been going to Tucson off and
on for four decades and I have also been a dealer in the TGMs show.
I have never been able to cover all the shows…there are just too
many of them and they are too spread out. ( Tucson is probably one
of the most spread out cities in America ) The smart thing to do is
to get ahold of the Colored Stone Show Guide on your p.c. and study
what each show has to offer. You will find that some shows are
highly specialized. some are small and out of the way, and some are
huge and highly diversified. The big shows that are supposedly
wholesale only require documentation to enter and there can be long
waits to get in. Wholesale versus retail is a fantasy. You can get a
great wholesale deal just about anywhere if the seller is so
inclined and if you are willing to part with significant quantities
of cash. Conversely, if you have wangled your way into one of the
"wholesale only" shows nobody is going to argue about what you
are…your cash will be your credentials. Yes, there are rules
that attempt to regulate Tucson commerce, but the old saying goes
"rules are made to be broken" And, while I certainly don’t advocate
anarchy, I do support free enterprise and the concept of “wheeling
and dealing” The medieaval guild attitudes are mostly about chicken
plucking and turfdom…My favorite show is the G&LW show at the
Holidome…it seems to have something for everyone and it is so
large that one could spend his entire visit there. I also like the
freewheeling bizarre bazars along Motel Row. These have an almost
carnival atmosphere where you are most likely to find the offbeat
things that appeal to some. If you want fine gems and can qualify
for entrance the AGTA show is the place to be…you’d better have
a deep line of credit ! The GJX is also very large and has a great
selection of primarily cut stones. There are bead shows, fashion
shows, fossil shows, jewelry shows, mineral shows and junk
shows…“name yer pizen”

As for overnight accomodations you might just be in trouble. In past
years I have had no trouble getting nice accomodations out in the
Marana district. This year seems to be booked very heavily and all
the better places have doubled their rates. In a worst case
scenario, you might have to go to Phoenix. Phoenix is only an hour
and a half and the shows don’t really get going until ten a.m.

Have a ball…there is nothing in the world that compares with the
Tucson shows. You will be addicted !

Ron Mills at
Mills Gem Company, Los Osos,Ca.


#7

Karen, first and most, do not panic! I was so scared when I attended
my first Tucson Gem show 4 years ago. I’m a country bumpkin living in
Oregon (happily I might add after growing up in the burbs outside of
Detroit!), and I found everyone to be soooo friendly! Sam Patania,
bless his heart, has always been so nice and helpful, and I look
forward to seeing him again this year. The thrill of chatting with
Hanuman and Ton are unforgetable, and Charles (whom I’m pretty
certain has no clue who I am, understandably, I always feel like I
have my toe in my mouth when I’m around him), is as interesting as
they come.

You really just have to go and check it all out. I’ve learned to
get my passes to the wholesale shows squared away ahead of time,
however I’m sure many of the other shows are wonderful too! If you
plan on going to wholesale shows, be sure to take: at least 3
invoices of jewelry supplies (products) that you’ve purchased in the
past year (the larger the better), with business cards, or I think a
business license may qualify, however you better check on that.

Now as far as dress code for the dinner, it seems that anything
decent goes but, since I live in jeans and sweats pretty much 24/7 I
can’t wait to get a little dressed up. Looking at the pics of the
place the dinner is at, it seems like the perfect opportunity!

I can’t wait to see you all there!!!

Lisa
Lisa Hawthorne
Studio.art@att.net


#8

Dear Orchidians

I feel so left out of this controlled chaos…;>( Next year I am
thinking about being there…Can anyone tell me how much are the
booths for me to sell something of great value…

Gerry!


#9

Richard -

This is an excellent article, and exactly what I would want to know
if I were fortunate enough to be going to Tucson. (Someday!)

What I really appreciate about it is knowing what shows open on what
day, where they are, and what each one offers in a general sort of
way.

How do you find this It would be invaluable in
planning a trip for say, next year.

Thanks,
Linda


#10

Karen,

Tucson is a lot of fun, even if you don’t know what you’re doing. I
definitely didn’t the first time I went, but I had a blast - just
looking at everything and meeting people in the industry was worth
it. Really the only part that wasn’t too much fun for me is how
crowded it is and that parking can be a pain - but that’s part of
the experience I guess.

My advice is don’t buy anything the first morning you’re there. Look
around, ask questions, then take a lunch break, think about what you
really need to buy, then go back and buy it. I bought lots of junk
my first trip - this year I’ll bring a list of what I actually
need to keep my (small) business going for the next year, in terms
of stones and pearls. Metal I usually just buy mail-order as needed
throughout the year, and most tools I’d like to buy aren’t very
practical to bring back on an airplane so I get them locally.

Leah
www.michondesign.com
@Leah2


#11

To those of you that responded to my post of PANIC, I thank you. I
have had to cancel my plans to attend the dinner this year but will
plan on next year’s dinner. I have been blessed with a new
Grand-daughter and had to choose which event I will do first,
needless to say my Grand-daughter won the toss up this year. I will
keep the advise of those that responded and re- read them next year.
I hope everyone has a great time.

Karen


#12

Linda,

The is on line at <www.tucsonshowguide.com> or in the
future you can get the guide in the mail if you subscribe to Colored
Stone magazine. At least it SHOULD get to you in time to study it
before the show. Mine’s been on time the past two or three years,
but for years before that it was always waiting for me when I
returned from Tucson. :frowning:

Jerry in Kodiak


#13

Colored Stone Magazine publishes a Tucson Show Guide. Subscribe and
get it free. Has all the answers. Excellent publication as well.

Richard
www.rwwise.com
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