The recession and us

Noralie

It’s never too late to learn. anything! We stop learning when we’re
lowered down 2 meters a. k.a. 6 feet. this profession is a wonderful
creative business. It’s fun and I’m only 70 & I have lots more
things to do now. like starting new jewellery business.

I now have a sales-manager, plus 4 more aggressive salespersons who
will be meeting clients end of this month. If you sit back and ponder
your past years, well bye-bye! Keep learning and you will be among the
very many of us who have taken great strides in reaching for the
’golden ring’ on the circle of life.

Keep learning in schools & take more seminars, this keeps all of
’us’ so young.

Imagine at a tender age of 70 years, I finally received my “Guinness
World Record”…Age is only a number.

Remember that great women who once said “it’s not the men in her
life. but the life in her men”!..:>) You previous remark. where does
it say you’re too late. too late for what? Enjoy your life, you got
many more great years ahead of you…“Live long & prosper!” G-d Speed!

Gerry Lewy

Darling… You may notice no one has suggested how you can sell.
That’s because the secret to the business is that you have to either
become another person to sell everything (do craft shows, "home"
shows or internet sales) which can take up 1/2 of your production
time, or pay someone to sell for you in a gallery or shop. I’ve done
the latter for 35 years, and have been burned, lied to, and unfairly
treated in ways too numerous to name. I have also been cherished,
celebrated and my work sold, sometimes just the other side of town,
by other merchants. It’s really an ongoing struggle to sell… for
you I can suggest Etsy, or your own site online.

Otherwise, try to find a reputable merchant in a high-volume tourist
spot who is committed to Art Jewelry, give her the best prices (with
a 50/50 split), then give her the pieces, and then cross your
fingers. Stay in touch with said merchant every month, check the
store, also. Engaging the other salesmen in the store to see how they
like and how they would sell your items is also a good thing.
Sometimes the things you tell the owner don’t get passed along to the
help. If it all sounds like a crap-shoot in Vegas. that’s because it
is. Sorry about that. Early jewelers survived because they had
patrons. and sometime people do collect your work, but you have to
expose them to it first.

Good luck. You’ll need it.

Mary Jane

Many thanks to all of you for your encouragement! Noralie

Keep on “truckin,” Noralie: I’m in my late 70’s and still finding
lovely, unusual stones to set in sterling. I give my work to 5 local
galleries and they sell what they sell. Its never been a career, but
a deeply satisfying avocation so age has no relevance here.
Everything falls away when I’m at the bench, including the years.

Pat Lafaye

Hi all

when I made a lot of jewellery and put it into galleries I did not
do consignment. Goods on consignment can be lost or stolen and not
paid for. you will hear every excuse under the sun. then sorry. but
no cash!!!

My contracts were SALE OR RETURN. I visited the galleries regularly
ONCE A MONTH goods not there were SOLD as per contract signed by
gallery owner.

I did not care where the piece was, but not in the shop it was sold!
gallery owner could not argue, because that was the deal they agreed
too!

Also when I wholesaled I did not do accounts. A 30 day account
becomes 60 days, info from Dunn and Bradstreet.

Now this can cause grief when you are on a 30 day account from your
gem dealer.

A friend of mine delivered an order to a department store. Verbal
agreement was paid on delivery. On delivery she was told it was NOW a
60 day account. She took a piece of paper from her hand bag and
showed it to the buyer. It was a Hawkers License.

She said you pay me now or the stock goes on sale on the sidewalk
out the front of your store.

SHE GOT PAID SURPRISE SURPRISE!

I ranked my orders by
First cash up front.

Second cash on delivery. That was cash or cash cheque.

Last 30 day account.

NEVER DID A 30 DAY ACCOUNT. Wow did they whinge, “Where is my
order?” I would say “You come after those who pay up front or on
delivery.” Would you like to pay on delivery? No! Then you can wait
till hell freezes over.

If you have a unique product then you can dictate terms. Otherwise
the retail sellers will just play one seller off against another to
get the lowest price. When I made hair accessories I was paid a $500
deposit upfront on all orders, by the owner. Then he wanted delivery
9 am the next day. I said I have to work all night. He said who else
will give you $500 up front and $1000 dollars at 9 am. Welcome to
fashion. Worked like buggery, as we say in Australia, made a sht
load of money. This was in the 1980’s so it was serious money. Did 2
or 3 orders a week for this guy. I turned 50 cents into $5 he turned
$5 into $25. He was the nicest guy a well educated and sophisticated
London Jew. Then he retired and I met the rest of the fashion trade,
a total Sh
t fight. So I learnt to make silver and gold, never been
happier but not as rich again.

Had a great day at the markets, the tourists are back. Down side
have to make a lot of jewellery this week and mow an acre etc.

Lab grown rubies and sapphires are a great seller. Look beautiful
and a fraction of the price of a heat treated/ lead glass filled
stone.

Be very careful with the provence of these stones so much nasty
stuff being done to them at the moment.

newbies remove all sapphires and rubies from the setting before
doing repairs. the crap ones can explode or come to grief in an
ultrasonic.

Richard

Norilee it’s never too late. I found an 18 ct. sapphire in NC, which
led me into making jewelry. I started out full time with my jewelry
living out of a borrowed teepee in the foothills of The Smokies, yes
I was in my 40’s, but didn’t start to learn silversmithing until I
wasin my late 50’s. I did Indian (Native American art markets) all
over the country, then after finding myself single again in my 60’s
I did big horse shows in Ft. Worth. Up until I was able to draw SS
this was my only income. Now at 70 I’m doing the Farmers Market 10
miles from my home. I don’t travel any more alone, so this is just
right for me for where I’m at in life at this point in time. I’ve
taken so many workshops, unfortunately probably forgot a lot of the
techniques. It’s never too late. Also I told someone a couple of yrs
ago I’d be working all my life. He said there’s no word for
retirement in The Bible, good point!

Never too late, if you still like what you’re doing. Now you must
not stop, now you have the advantage of having patience and
experience. no hurry, just making the art of cultivating the beauty.
Many years ahead.

Direct Regards from Brazil
Carlos Peixo

Norilee,

I may call myself old, but it is me just griping my body has gotten
older not my mind. In fact I haven’t quite figured out what I want to
do when I grow up.

My grandmother (Bestamor) taught me more unspoken lessons about
aging. The biggest one was when she turned 90. We all went back to
Denmark for her birthday celebration. What she wanted as a present
was 10 speed bicycle.

That was when they had more of a higher handle bar set up so normal
people could ride them. Why did she want a bicycle at 90? Because she
didn’t want to ride the homes bus to town with the other older
ladies. She didn’t want to be know in the small town as one of those
old ladies. Yet she was the oldest one living at the home.

It was also hilarious to watch Bestamor scold my father who was near
70, as if he was a little boy. Age is just a number. It is attitude
that keeps us going. You go girl, and have fun. Learn and make
wonderful jewelry.

And if you get a chance, go ride a bicycle.

Aggie

Noralie,

Your message makes me so happy! I found the courage to start on this
career after having an established jeweler tell me, “If you were
going to be a jeweler, you would have started way before now.” The
source of that courage was my mother who waited until all of her
children were raised before pursuing her dream of becoming a nurse
at the age of 46. As the youngest, it so happened we ended up going
to nursing school together. She had a wonderful career - as did I -
and retired a few years back. As fate would have it, I discovered
this passion for the jewelry industry and attended bench jeweler
school at the age of (surprise, surprise!) 46! I feel so blessed to
have found something that I enjoy so much that also allows me to
make some good money. I guess that “established jeweler” didn’t know
what kind of stock I came from, huh?

Keep on keepin’ on, Noralie!

:slight_smile:
Donna W
Huntsville, AL

No offense meant

Hi

I have had some offline queries as to why I called the gentleman a
London Jew.

He called himself a London Jew and all my Hebrew friends call
themselves Jews. Even my Hassidic Hebrew friends call themselves
Jews. Yes the ones who climb the tree. And how they laugh at Madonna
and her ilk. You need to know ancient Hebrew before you can play with
that tree.

My best friend for decades till he passed away called himself a Jew.

I don’t see why it is offensive. Also my Hebrew friends who were
BORN in Israel call them selves Jews.

So it must be the LONDON that is offensive.

I think he called himself a London Jew so he would not be called a
whining POM.

Sorry if I caused anyone any offense, it was just how this gentleman
and my friends refer to themselves.

Is this an Australian idiom?

Sorry again but.

Don’t come the mashugana shiksa with me my son I know what shiksa
means from my Jewish friends. LOL

Blessed Be
Richard

Richard,

I was married to a Jewish woman for 10 years. your reference to your
friend as a Jew as far as I know is correct. The way her family
refereed to themselves.

Hi Donna

As fate would have it, I discovered this passion for the jewelry
industry and attended bench jeweler school at the age of (surprise,
surprise!) 46! 

At the School for Silversmiths we had all ages as newbies and they
followed their passion. Who cares how old you are when you start? It
is a passion you can follow into old age.

As for most established jewellers they just don’t want the
competition. You can make quality with very few tools and if you
have the design skills you can make incredible jewellery. Not the run
of the mill shop stuff.

Or if you are an average designer like me you can make beautiful
jewellery by making simple designs. I have many return customers who
like simple designs. Have 2 orders to do tomorrow, rings with
Swarovksi CZs. I know there are those who think using CZs are
beneath them but this lady has some serious gold and diamond
jewellery. But also likes fun bling and appreciates hand made.

I am from old money and grew up with the one percenters. One thing
people do not understand about the one percenters is that they do
have a sense of fun and can appreciate all types of materials for
jewellery. But they do know quality be it plastic or 18 kt. One
thing they do hate is aggressive salesmanship.

Jewellery a passion, an obsession or a mental illness?

No one NORMAL (remember normal is boring) would sit at a bench doing
the intricate, difficult and beautiful for hours on end.

Then curse that they have to stop at the end of the day. But wisdom
teaches us that when tiredness happens it is time to walk away from
the bench.

Today I had a ring ready to polish and set the stone, experience,
aka why did I not leave that till tomorrow I have just buggered this
up, taught me to walk away. Tomorrow I will finish the ring and do a
better job than if I was tired.

I guess there is a reason for pen and paper and wine, design time.

Enjoy this trade no matter what level, you will make beauty. And
people will want it.

Richard

You could go with the flow and make them jewelled iPhone cases. And
earbuds - they hang off your head and are pug-ugly most of the time.
That’s just jewelry waiting to happen.

I have a mini iPad that never leaves my hands even when I’m asleep.
It needs a nice strong chain so it can be hung around my neck.

Sasha

I have had some offline queries as to why I called the gentleman a
London Jew. 

Wish I was still in London, a stone merchant from the same culture
sold me the best stones ever. I cannot seem to find the same quality
again and don’t have his email. He certainly called himself a Jew and
if I’d called him English I get the feeling he wouldn’t have been
happy about it, in the same way Irish people don’t when you call them
‘English’ :slight_smile:

Race can be a sensitive topic, but it fascinates me. I think the
rule is so long as you are talking culture, rather than race, it is
acceptable to differentiate these days. And the lines blur. Grey Owl
for instance. A caucasian if I recall, but became Native American by
choice, and a very good one at that, then there is the guy in “Lock,
Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels” :slight_smile:

[age]

I got into making jewelry at age 49 and thought I was old. But
perhaps not.

My friend’s grandmother started up a little enterprise in her
nineties at the retirement home she was in back in 1970. I would tell
you what sort of enterprise - but it wasn’t very respectable. Half
the family were horrified and the rest were quite impressed! I’m of
the Impressed school of thought, myself, seeing as it is generally a
career for someone in their twenties…

I’m guessing it is the time available to actually make jewelry in
that is worrying you?

None of us come with any guarantees. I had an MRI two weeks ago that
looks like I’m going to keel over any minute, and I have idiots for
doctors. I’m treating myself with herbs till I get to see someone who
knows what s/he is doing. I must admit making jewelry took a back
seat.

But I do want to make something great. I want to see the Northern
Lights and I want to make a great piece of jewelry. And I want to
outlive the idiot doctors.

I also took up singing two days ago. I am well-known for being
terrible at that, but it is amazing what can be achieved with an iPad
app that visualizes your pitch for you. Give me a month, I’ll be
singing opera.

Adequately.

Vermeer only left us 30 or so paintings and his reputation is doing
alright, so perhaps there is time to make an impact. Also, I have
noticed the older I get - the faster I pick up new skills as I
already have a lot of other skills that transfer well to other
mediums, so being in your eighties, you perhaps have some advantages
over all of us young upstarts.

You get to the stage where you can do something for the first time
and be professional level in six months.

Actually as my favorite Vermeer, the lady with the red hat, is
probably a fake, my favorite painter, whoever they really were,
perhaps only left us the one, but it is amazing.

Sasha

Richard,

I reread your post. I guess I am curious why you used the phrase at
all.

What reason was there to name the person’s religion, or ethnicity?
Yes, there is no technical harm in the reference…

Except that there seems, in my eyes–a New York, now Seattle,
jew–to be a taint about it. The whole sentence is strange, now that
I think about it.

He was the nicest guy a well educated and sophisticated London Jew. 

Why not just write “Londoner” or “guy” or “person”?

Whether it is factual and accurate is really not the question, I
guess.

Take care,
Andy

As a New York, now Massachusetts, Jew, I, too, was uncomfortable
with the reference. Seems like ethnicity has absolutely nothing to
do with the subject being discussed (unless the subtext really was
about ethnicity. in which case I’m really uncomfortable).

Linda Kaye-Moses

Hi Andy,

I think what has to be considered is intent, which cannot be 100% be
determined by the written word.

I know a lot of Jewish people, “Jew” is how they refer to themselves
and they see no offense in it.

If someone is offended by any term, then they should discuss it in a
civil manner with the person saying the offense. You never know the
person saying the offensive statement may not know it’s offensive.

Kindest regards Charles A.