Does anyone have a good source for ball stud earring findings with
open jump rings in 14K red gold? I’m interested in 3mm, 4mm and 5mm
diameter balls.
Thanks much,
Donna Shimazu
hoover and strong sells them in red and “peach”.
Donna,
I just called Hoover and Strong; they don’t carry any Rose Gold
items.
Yvonne
I just called Hoover and Strong; they don't carry any Rose Gold items.
I’ve purchased 18K Rose gold from them within the past year.
KPK
they carry red gold items, but not what Donna is looking for…I have
bought red gold master alloy from them for years…you must have
gotten a new person…or asked for rose or pink gold which they do
not have. However i’m sure Donna appreciates everyone trying to find
the source of the studs with jump rings attached out of Red gold she
is seeking…
AND for those of you who undoubtedly are going to argue that red
gold and rose or pink gold are the same thing…They are not… While
both have an abundance of copper included in the alloy(s) Red gold is
distinctly and decidedly more red than pink or rose gold.
Did you try David H. Fell & Co in so. California? Good folks!
marianne
Marianne Hunter
http://www.hunter-studios.com
If you want to discuss color you need to use a measured system like the CIE 1976 (L*, a*, b*) color space which is beginning to be used for classifying "white" golds. Otherwise discussion of differences in color without measured data is just opinion and hot air.
This is a correct statement as far as color goes, but in jewellery
there is convention to call gold “red” if it is 14k ( or 583 in
Europe ) and composed of only copper and gold. Green gold would be
14k
and composed of only silver and gold. Variations from these would
give all the other hues
It would be correct to say that term “red gold” and all the other
color labels speak more of gold composition than of actual color.
Leonid Surpin.
It would be correct to say that term "red gold" and all the other color labels speak more of gold composition than of actual color.
Many years ago this may have been the case but modern alloys have
become more complex as manufacturers have tried to control the
properties of their products to make better performing alloys.
Copper gold alloys form large crystal grains when cast or annealed
making the alloy prone to cracking and “orange peel” surfaces if
there is not some other metal added as a grain refiner, zinc or some
other metal(s) are present in most “red” golds to minimize the grain
size. Also the 18k copper gold only alloy will form an intermetallic
structure when it is cooled slowly that is so brittle it will
fracture when dropped. So often a little silver or other metal is
added to try to mitigate this tendency.
For example if you look at Hoover and Strong’s current catalog they
list their “red” gold as containing gold copper and zinc and their
previous catalog called the same alloy “pink”. The terms for color
are marketing and give you and idea of hue but beyond that you need
to look at the alloys in question to determine the relative colors.
This is why it would be nice for the manufacturers to provide CIELab
color data.
Jim
James Binnion
@James_Binnion
James Binnion Metal Arts
360-756-6550
the 18k copper gold only alloy will form an intermetallic structure when it is cooled slowly that is so brittle it will fracture when dropped. So often a little silver or other metal is added to try to mitigate this tendency.
I did not mean to convey the idea that “Red Gold” of “Green Gold” was
a workable alloy. It was always taken as a starting point to what
ever one wanted to take it.
I called Hoover and Strong again. They do carry “14K Pink” and “18K
Pink” but only in the mill products.
No findings, which was the original question on this thread. I don’t
know any company who carries the “14K Red Gold Ball Studs with an
open ring”. Though this could change with the popularity of colored
golds. Many companies carry 14K Red Ball studs, earnuts and other
findings. But I think I have tried them all for the item Donna is
looking for. So as soon as they become available, I hope someone
let’s us know.
I have been using “Rose” or “Pink” gold for 10 years, mostly mill
products. What I have found is that each company has their own
“recipe” and won’t divulge what percentages of each metal make up the
color. There is also Peach colored gold. So to keep consistency in my
jewelry I order from one company. That way if I need to replace an
earring or other item, I know what color the gold will be.
Yvonne Pankowski