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Harry & Penny Butterfield wrote:

HIya all!!

I have a thread for discussion. Currently I am working on a project with
14k gold fill and Sterling silver. I am looking for the best way to solder
the gold fill onto the silver. Can Anyone help?

Harry Butterfield
HP Trading Company

Well, it would appear that someone should start a thread or two.I have an
interest in several areas:

Seems to me that the price to quality ratio of Australian opal rough has
taken a real turn for the worse of late. I think it is causing a lot of small
time U.S. dealers to throw in the towel. Many U.S. “hobby” Cutters also seem
to be abandoning opal altogether or are switching to more "predictable"
material for this reason. Anyone have some thoughts on this or perhaps some
inside info?

What is “wholesale” on gems in general these days? I surf the web for gem
info and get flyers by snail mail most of which claim to be “wholesale”. Yet
prices for like items vary greatly!

Ilive within an easy drive of one of California’s premier Tourmaline mines. I
go there to buy rough pink tourmaline. If you don’t know already, this is
the best pink tourmaline on the world, Bubble gum pink, no brownish cast like
that stuff from S.A. My sons and I facet this material (to order if needed),
we cut for brilliance not weight. Anyone interested in purchasing some of
these stones?

Well, there you have three thing to start talking/posting about (I know that
last one is a bit self serving. Sorry if I offended anyone out there).

Tony Ruyter
ruytert@starbase1.caltech.edu


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At 04:36 03/07/96 UT, you wrote:

to whom it may concern…
My name is Marc Williams. Some time ago I signed up to receive the on line
forum for jewelry. I had received entries from Orchid for about three weeks,

now i don’t get any E mail from any of the members. Was my subscription
cancelled. If so I would like to know why. If not I would like to know what
is
going on with the forum and why I am not receiving it anymore.
I appreciate you looking into this matter for me, and also appreciate any
help
you can offer to get me back in Orchid. One thing I might add. I often
recieved notices to cancell my subscriptiion. Why were these sent to me and
were they sent to other members or to just myself. If I did something wrong
please let me know.
Thank You very much,
Marc Willams
tdwgold@msn.com

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Harry,
Guess I have never had any trouble soldering 14K gf to silver as
I always use a soft solder so I don’t have to over heat the metal.
My problem has alway been that it leaves a solder mark where I
add the solder and that has to be cleaned up.
David

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#2

The GemNet Forum started a lets" we ALL introduced ourselves"
Think it would be a good idea here as well, as there may or may not be a
interest, This is just a idea.

Name :frowning: CJ ) J. Lanese
Location : Albany, New York, U.S.A.
E-Mail : @j.lanese
03576@polygon.net
Company Name: G.B.A. LTD. ( Gemstone Brokerage Associates Ltd. )
Nature of Business :We Buy sell and broker, gemstones and gemstone rough.
We have several custom cutters (Creating incredible Gems ) here in the US
cutting for us and hope to have more within the year. We have comercial
goods as well as the Unique Custom Cut Stones. We are going to do a monthly
email list of partial inventory available, as well as specials as they come
available in both cut and rough.
I also design and create carved gemstone jewelry,( One of a kind ) using a
combination of inlay and or intarsia in my carved designs.

Special Interests and Passions: Carving and Learning to use the
internet to market, create friends and learn more about the industry on a
global level

Masochistic Pastimes: Many

Web-Sites
Under construction

At 01:23 PM 7/6/96 +0000, you wrote:

Harry & Penny Butterfield wrote:

HIya all!!

I have a thread for discussion. Currently I am working on a project with
14k gold fill and Sterling silver. I am looking for the best way to solder
the gold fill onto the silver. Can Anyone help?

Harry Butterfield
HP Trading Company

Well, it would appear that someone should start a thread or two.I have an
interest in several areas:

Seems to me that the price to quality ratio of Australian opal rough has
taken a real turn for the worse of late. I think it is causing a lot of
small

time U.S. dealers to throw in the towel. Many U.S. “hobby” Cutters also seem
to be abandoning opal altogether or are switching to more "predictable"
material for this reason. Anyone have some thoughts on this or perhaps some
inside info?

What is “wholesale” on gems in general these days? I surf the web for gem
info and get flyers by snail mail most of which claim to be “wholesale”. Yet
prices for like items vary greatly!

Ilive within an easy drive of one of California’s premier Tourmaline
mines. I

go there to buy rough pink tourmaline. If you don’t know already, this is
the best pink tourmaline on the world, Bubble gum pink, no brownish cast
like

that stuff from S.A. My sons and I facet this material (to order if
needed),

we cut for brilliance not weight. Anyone interested in purchasing some of
these stones?

Well, there you have three thing to start talking/posting about (I know that
last one is a bit self serving. Sorry if I offended anyone out there).

Tony Ruyter
ruytert@starbase1.caltech.edu


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At 04:36 03/07/96 UT, you wrote:

to whom it may concern…
My name is Marc Williams. Some time ago I signed up to receive
the on line

forum for jewelry. I had received entries from Orchid for about three
weeks,

now i don’t get any E mail from any of the members. Was my subscription
cancelled. If so I would like to know why. If not I would like to know what
is
going on with the forum and why I am not receiving it anymore.
I appreciate you looking into this matter for me, and also appreciate any
help
you can offer to get me back in Orchid. One thing I might add. I often
recieved notices to cancell my subscriptiion. Why were these sent to me and
were they sent to other members or to just myself. If I did something wrong
please let me know.
Thank You very much,
Marc Willams
tdwgold@msn.com

  •                     orchid@ganoksin.com
    

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DEAR MARC,AND WHOM IT MAY CONCERN

THE SAME HAPPENED WITH ME.

I DON’T KNOW EXACTLY HOW ORCHID WORKS,FOR SO,

   PLEASE ORCHID PEOPLE START MAILING AGAIN

RICARDO BRONFEN > BRAZIL

FAX + 55 31 221-0200

E-MAIL VANCOX@UNIX.HORIZONTES.COM.BR

  •                     orchid@ganoksin.com
    

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Harry,
Guess I have never had any trouble soldering 14K gf to silver as
I always use a soft solder so I don’t have to over heat the metal.
My problem has alway been that it leaves a solder mark where I
add the solder and that has to be cleaned up.
David

  •                     orchid@ganoksin.com
    

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G.B.A. Ltd.
Gemstone Brockerage Associates Ltd. Telephone (518) 438-5487
P.O. Box 8930 .
Fax (518) 438-8131
Albany, NY 12208

INTERNET ADDRESS
3576@polygon.net
@j.lanese
MEMBER OF POLYGON NETWORK, INC.
POLYGON # 3576

MEMBER
JEWELERS ADVISORY GROUP
MEDIATOR FOR
JEWELERS ADVISORY GROUP

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#3

In-Reply-To: 199607061627.QAA11267@mailhost.worldnet.att.net
Resign

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#4

David,

Thanx for the reply.

Yes it does leave a mark, but I am trying to solder domed sheet onto domed
sheet with a bezel and am having a problem of the bezel melting through the
gf as I solder it onto the silver using 65 (easy) solder. Paste solder uses
too aggressive a flux and I get grey streaks on the gold. These are
production pieces and I need to figure out how to get them done so they look
good…

Thanx Mucho

Harry Butterfield
HP Trading Company

Harry & Penny Butterfield wrote:

HIya all!!

I have a thread for discussion. Currently I am working on a project with
14k gold fill and Sterling silver. I am looking for the best way to solder
the gold fill onto the silver. Can Anyone help?

Harry Butterfield
HP Trading Company

Well, it would appear that someone should start a thread or two.I have an
interest in several areas:

Seems to me that the price to quality ratio of Australian opal rough has
taken a real turn for the worse of late. I think it is causing a lot of
small

time U.S. dealers to throw in the towel. Many U.S. “hobby” Cutters also seem
to be abandoning opal altogether or are switching to more "predictable"
material for this reason. Anyone have some thoughts on this or perhaps some
inside info?

What is “wholesale” on gems in general these days? I surf the web for gem
info and get flyers by snail mail most of which claim to be “wholesale”. Yet
prices for like items vary greatly!

Ilive within an easy drive of one of California’s premier Tourmaline
mines. I

go there to buy rough pink tourmaline. If you don’t know already, this is
the best pink tourmaline on the world, Bubble gum pink, no brownish cast
like

that stuff from S.A. My sons and I facet this material (to order if
needed),

we cut for brilliance not weight. Anyone interested in purchasing some of
these stones?

Well, there you have three thing to start talking/posting about (I know that
last one is a bit self serving. Sorry if I offended anyone out there).

Tony Ruyter
ruytert@starbase1.caltech.edu


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At 04:36 03/07/96 UT, you wrote:

to whom it may concern…
My name is Marc Williams. Some time ago I signed up to receive
the on line

forum for jewelry. I had received entries from Orchid for about three
weeks,

now i don’t get any E mail from any of the members. Was my subscription
cancelled. If so I would like to know why. If not I would like to know what
is
going on with the forum and why I am not receiving it anymore.
I appreciate you looking into this matter for me, and also appreciate any
help
you can offer to get me back in Orchid. One thing I might add. I often
recieved notices to cancell my subscriptiion. Why were these sent to me and
were they sent to other members or to just myself. If I did something wrong
please let me know.
Thank You very much,
Marc Willams
tdwgold@msn.com

  •                     orchid@ganoksin.com
    

procedures *

DEAR MARC,AND WHOM IT MAY CONCERN

THE SAME HAPPENED WITH ME.

I DON’T KNOW EXACTLY HOW ORCHID WORKS,FOR SO,

   PLEASE ORCHID PEOPLE START MAILING AGAIN

RICARDO BRONFEN > BRAZIL

FAX + 55 31 221-0200

E-MAIL VANCOX@UNIX.HORIZONTES.COM.BR

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Harry,
Guess I have never had any trouble soldering 14K gf to silver as
I always use a soft solder so I don’t have to over heat the metal.
My problem has alway been that it leaves a solder mark where I
add the solder and that has to be cleaned up.
David

  •                     orchid@ganoksin.com
    

procedures *

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