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Helen do they sell Zero Oder in the UK? Also I wonder if Sidney
has a bladder infection or a stone.... 

Hi Lorraine, I’m not sure whether I can get Zero Oder here in the
UK, but I do have a similar product that I use for such “accidents”.
Sidney does indeedsuffer with his bladder at times, and has had a
few infections. Apparently he doesn’t have a stone, but a condition
where the lining of his bladder sheds small pieces. It’s one of
those things that some cats develop apparently. He does have
medication from time to time for it. We have to keep an eye on him.
I am hawk-eyed when it comes to watching for any sign of blood in
his wee, and daily check on all his favourite places for any sign of
blood-staineddribbles. Sorry everyone for the graphic details! It
was my own fault, as Iforgot to make sure that he had access to his
litter tray that night.

I appreciate your concern for his wellbeing. You are clearly a
fellow animallover.

Helen
UK

I live in constant fear that my beloved furrball (otherwise known as
the PuppyCat, based on his love of playing Fetch, hide and seek, and
his general all around playfulness and interactivity) will ingest or
step on a shiny chip or otherwise hurt himself. In addition to the
personal guilt involved, I’d be out on the street if She ever found
out.

So, myplanned “open and airyish” workshop now resembles a barricaded
corner ofthe zombie apocalypse… and yet, he still manages to find
ways in.

I really try to be a good parent, but he’s smarter than I… The
battle continues, and after all, as Patton said “Courage is fear
holding on one minute longer”!

Bob

Joy, Your hedgehogs look great; alert, bright, healthy. Please
contact meoff list; I’d like to know what you are feeding them and
how you care for them. I see them in practice infrequently so any
practical info you can provide would be useful (other than the usual
claptrap in textbooks) Thanks in advance, Judy P drjude518@yahoo. ca

“I remember your eyes were bluer than robins’ eggs. My poetry was
lousy you said. Where are you calling from? A booth in the midwest”

Hi love cats but don’t have one. But “found” a new “pet” the other
day.

When brush cutting the back yard at the shop, looked around to see a
large 6 foot or so python.

Decided it was time for a coffee. Went back new pet was gone. Came
back when I started again.

Must like the vibes/sound of the brush cutter.

Pythons are pets in Australia, put one in the roof then no more
rodents. They do get friendly though.

My friend was working in his shed and turned round to find his
python looking over his shoulder.

Did have lots of cats, about a dozen. Had very few birds around, but
hundreds of butterflies of all types.

They are supposed to kill birds, ours did not but sure got many
poisonous snakes.

Now have 2 dogs, always in the wife’s workshop, her bench is in the
shed at home. She makes bead jewellery.

How many beads can one person have? Never enough.

I like it my way, choose the stone(s), choose the metal make the
piece. Simple.

Richard
Xtines Jewels.

I discovered that our boy cat, Sidney had left me a puddle under
the bench. 

This seems very odd to me. I’ve lived with cats all my life, and
never had one that didn’t use the litter box or go outside.

I did have one tom who, when he wanted to go outside, would stand at
the door, lift his leg and threaten. We always opened the door for
him :slight_smile:

Al Balmer

Hi, Helen,

Apparently he doesn't have a stone, but a condition where the
lining of his bladder sheds small pieces. 

I think by including the word ‘stone’ we have succeeded in keeping
it relevant to lapidary. ;-)) Sounds like interstitial cystitis?
Have you tried him on fluoxetine? Or checked his blood for
toxoplasmosis titers (which, once contracted, can recur)? I have one
girl who “thinks outside the box” when her toxo titers climb.
There’s also a litter that changes color if the urine contains
blood. Sorry for the misspelling of ‘Zero Odor’ - the iPad just
arbitrarily changes word spelling. Sheesh. I can send you a bottle
if you want to try it. I’ve had cats for 57 years; my hubby and I do
cat-rescue work. As you can imagine, we spent copious time cleaning.
We have not found anything for urine odor that works better than
Zero Odor.

Best regards,
Lorraine

Loved this thread being a two Cat home, antics are no surprise at
all, one of mine will enter a tile bathroom, pull a shirt off of the
towel rack to pee on something soft. Just put a new carpet under the
kitchen table, that too has become a pee spot. It is now outside
probably never to see inside again. May look for some “No not here
spray.” I would like to share something I have been involved with for
some time now for all pet lovers. Please check out There you will
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Please cheek out the Web Site, and if you are on FaceBook, I manage
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Thanks,
Terrie

I discovered that our boy cat, Sidney had left me a puddle under
the bench. This seems very odd to me. I've lived with cats all my
life, and never had one that didn't use the litter box or go
outside. 

Al, it is unusual behaviour even for Sidney. We’ve had him from
being a young cat of about six months old and he’s never been a
sprayer fortunately, buthe does have bladder issues on and off, as I
explained to Lorraine (a painful condition where his bladder lining
sheds pieces), so he does get caught short sometimes. He’s also a
pretty big cat, so sometimes he misses the tray even if sat in it! I
can cope with that as the floors are moppable. But unfortunately,
someone had closed the door to the room where his tray lives, so he
found somewhere else to do his business. Usually if that happens,
it’s just a puddle though, but this time he sprayed.

Helen
UK

This seems very odd to me. I've lived with cats all my life, and
never had one that didn't use the litter box or go outside. 

You’ve been lucky. It depends on a number of things. The females
rarely have problems unless something is wrong (which can be as
simple as the cat deciding the litter box is not to it’s liking.
wrong litter, not clean enough, not acceptable location, etc.). This
shouldn’t be ignored, since it’s one of the rare symptoms of some
diseases that the cats don’t hide. With males, though, a lot depends
on how they were socialized to humans (mostly, at what age), and at
what age they were neutered. If that’s done too late, they cats may
have started to spray. Once they acquire that habit, it’s really hard
to break them of it.

But male or female, any cat might on some occasion decide that
marking something to send it’s human a message would be a good thing
for it to do. Infuriating, but go with the flow. Make a fuss, and it
seems they remember that “it worked”.

any zero odor, kennel sol, odo ban all work well waves at fellow
rescuer been resuing animals 40 years and still going strong. Perks
of working at home.

Teri

and sleepy forgot the point lol Try a litter box made for ferrets
with a flat opening usually it is pain that makes a normally good
kitty go out of the box it may work.

Teri

The no pee here product is called feliway but if this is new
behaviour the cat should be taken to the vet. Outside is sentencing
that cat to a shorter life. What type of litter are you using. We
have a kitten now a young man of one and he peed everywhere if the
box was not scooped immediately we were using pine litter. as soon
as we got scoopable litter for a litter maid he stopped the errant
peeing. Teri

He was very unhappy Helen and letting you know in no uncertain
terms. A solution each cat should have 2 litter boxes is there an
area he goes that can accommodate another? so his trip to that box
isn;t half way across the house. Being someone wh has emergencies I
understand part of his problem.

Teri

usually it is pain that makes a normally good kitty go out of the
box it may work. Teri 

Yes, crystal-forming foods, etc. Also a cat who is old (age 9 and
up) and who is becoming arthritic may appear to be spraying, but in
fact can no longer squat. Males are more likely to experience pain
from bad diet than females, as the urethra is narrower and longer;
are also more likely to die from a urethral blockage. - Lorraine

Yes, they do remember when it works. We have found that breeding
cats that if the father was a sprayer so shall the son be. However,
if it is new then it is a statement of displeasure or just a pain
reaction. Poor guy can;t hold it right now.

Hi Aggie

I’ll pass on the gator for I don’t think he’ll survive New
Hampshire’s brutal winter. Plus, with the coyotes, bears, deer,
wolves, fisher cats, raccoons and foxes, I have my hands full just
keeping my dog from flying into the woods in pursuit. I’ll keep my
hedgehogs, thank you very much! They are perfect pets in my studio -
they sleep all day and I work all day.

Joy, the 2 hedgies, 1 dog and 2 birds.

Okay, I can’t bite my tongue any longer, keep my thoughts to myself.
To all you folks out there who have cats that are peeing (not
spraying, entirely different thing surely) outside their litter
boxes, I refer you to this short little article from Cornell U for
you to peruse. Just to show you Ididn’t make any of this up. If
there were no such thing as FLUTD (FelineLower Urinary Tract
Disease) I might be out of a job. But there is such anentity; it has
been a substantial part of my practice for years and decades. And
people still haven’t learned. I blame the Veterinary Profession; we
have our heads so far up our backsides that we still haven’t been
able toget the message out on this and many things. I guess that is
why I prefer horses and gems. For what it is worth; read on:

http://www.ganoksin.com/gnkurl/ep811z

Any questions; don’t hesitate to contact me. This is a GENERAL
article; not all cats fit exactly. Regards.

Joy,

When we lived in Saudi, we had a mama, native hedgehog along with
three wee babes find her way into our fenced back garden. She decided
to stay and ate our dog’s food and garlic tops in my vegie garden.
The babes grew up, and mama and babes continued to wander our garden.
then they invited more in. We ended up with a total of 10 hedgies.
The orginal mama figured out how to use the dog door and had two sets
of babies in my workshop. My husband and I spent most every evening
watching them run around the trees and grass. They were a study in
random chaos. We miss them so much! We parceled them out to other
people who had nice big gardens with lots of good hiding places, and
a similar love of their antics when we left.

Evalie, in lovely Cyprus where it can’t decide whether it is going
to be sunny or cloudy today.

Try a litter box made for ferrets with a flat opening usually it
is pain that makes a normally good kitty go out of the box it may
work. 

One of my rescued kitties had arthritis in her back later in life,
whichapparently made it painful to squat properly. While she never
purposely went outside “the Box,” she would stand inside the litter
pan, and go - all over the floor. A high sided litter box finally
solved that problem. I suspect her arthritis was due to her climbing
pine trees at break neck speed in her feral youth.

Linda in central FL

Terri,

I use Pine Litter, prefer the "Green"feature of this. the looking
for something soft to pee onto is not really new. I used to put my
Terry Cloth bathrobe on the floor near the tub, until she peed on
that. Soft carpets the nap seems to invite her. This kitchen carpet
does the same. I din’t think she is sending a message, just loving
the feel of soft.

Thanks for the suggestions.

Terrie
Teresa Masters