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Rhino disinformation


#1

Jeffery, I am a current ArtCam user, and what you are describing
about ArtCam does not describe what it is and what it does. Have you
reviewed the ArtCam JewelSmith yet? I can do many things you are
claiming it cannot. Is this an old posting that has resurfaced? I am
very happy with the program and it’s capabilities. I researched
Rhino before I made the decision not only was it tough to learn but
limiting also. As a current user, it is clear to me that you do not
know the product. At the end of the day, all I wanted to do was more
models in less time. ArtCam does it for me. Thanks, Mark


#2

This thread, should it persist, should be labeled "corrected ArtCam
or some such, rather then "Rhino dis.

Use of the term disis a little harsh.

Disis defined as “Deliberately misleading information
announced publicly or leaked by a government or especially by an
intelligence agency in order to influence public opinion or the
government in another nation…”.

I assure you, I would not deliberately misinform anyone, nor do I
have any vested interest in any one software.

Jeffrey Everett


#3

Hi Mark Thanks for pointing out my mistakes. I did email you
privately in response and am looking forward to your reply.

I have indeed talked with other ArtCam and JewelSmith users, and
exchanged jewelry images with them. The consensus is that ArtCam is
unable to produce the type of jewelry work I do in Rhino, however, I
do not want to give the impression that I am stating you are wrong.
It just so happens that I create jewelry that is quite complex. I
have been at the bench for 33 years, and working with CAD for the
last 11 years. I have evolved through several different CAD programs
in that time, and the complexity of the jewelry I create has evolved
as well. Certainly ArtCam can do things that Rhino can not do, nor
may ever do. They are entirely different types of programs.

I certainly will not argue that Rhino can be very difficult to learn
for a new CAD user. The first time I tried the beta of Rhino prior to
version 1, I dismissed it as a tool I wanted to learn. Eventually I
did purchase it, and I did not become proficient during the first
year of working an hour or more each day. After approximate 4 years
of using Rhino, it is an indispensable part of my toolset.

As I give jewelry technology workshops at the University level, I am
interested in seeing students and working jewelers able to create
their designs, and I fully support any and everyone’s continuing
capacity to use all technologies available to model jewelry. I may be
attending ArtCam and JewelSmith training at ModelMaster headquarters
soon and I have suggested using ArtCam (in conjunction with Rhino) in
the jewelry making curriculum at the University of Iowa. So please do
not misunderstand me, although I teach Rhino, I am interested in the
capabilities of ArtCam as well, and will soon have a deeper
understanding of it. I will gladly produce a comparison and in depth
analysis of the capabilities of each if anyone is interested.

Jeffrey Everett


#4
    As I give jewelry technology workshops at the University
level, I am interested in seeing students and working jewelers able
to create their designs, and I fully support any and everyone's
continuing capacity to use all technologies available to model
jewelry. 

Hey Jeffrey, This statement reminds me that you still have to put
Massoni’s CD on your website so that I can download it. You said
you would do it, right? Maybe others can have it too. Best, Will


#5

It is a great thing that so many companies are taking an interest in
CAD/CAM for jewelers. So often it is the case that we have to
"adopt" technology from other industries like the dental field. In my
search for CAD/CAM software, I have spoken to a number of people
using different things. I am leaning towards Artcam because their
users seem to have gotten the hang of it a lot faster. And the
jewelry sites I have been referred to look like the program is
capable of some pretty sophisticated stuff. I hear they have a few
schools teaching it as well. When it comes down to it, I don’t want
my first purchase to be something I never get around to using
because it is too hard to learn. Maybe after I have one under my
belt, I’ll try another. After all, I’ve got more than one pair of
pliers :wink: Carl