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#1

Jim,

Alright, you really started something here! So I’ve got my wax gun (works
great, BTW), so I guess I’m one of the first new owners of the SDJ
prototype. Took some of my cake decorating tips with me to Home Depot and
got a tapered coupling similar to what I use to attach the tips to the
pastry bag; the plumbing department has them. They are 2 pieces that screw
together leaving a smooth, tapered nipple about 1/2" exposed. Soldered the
male portion onto the end of the gun so it doesn’t interfere when I don’t
want to use it without a tip and voila! a coupling for attaching pastry
tips. Makes it a bit heavier on the nozzle end but not enough to cause me
problems. Cost $1.29 for the coupling - already had the tips so I cheated
there. Best place to pick up tips for less is someplace like MJ Designs or
similar store; Wilton makes the best, being stainless and very durable.

Susan

C Gems
Original Designs and Period Jewelry
cgems@pipeline.com


#2

Hey Susan,

We’re going to have to rename this gun the; SDJS Wax gun… with the 'pastry
bag ’ improvement, I don’t believe there’s another one on the market with
this flexibility . . . could you easily make permanent or better yet,
TEMPORARY TIPS??? … For single designs???

Now you have me running back to Home Depot…

Jim

At 06:36 AM 11/1/96 -0500, you wrote:


#3

Susan,

Well! You added Great, New Features… Super!.. but did you add a new
model; Base, Top, Line and last but not least… Gun Colors??? … For
Example, If you purchased an OUTLET Box made to ‘hang’ on ‘Stud Wall’, then
you may have added a handle??

‘Our Customers’ need to know!

Jim

At 06:36 AM 11/1/96 -0500, you wrote:


#4

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#5

At 11:26 AM 11/1/96 -0600, you wrote:

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MG,

Come again?!?

Susan

C Gems
Original Designs and Period Jewelry
cgems@pipeline.com


#6

At 11:06 AM 11/1/96 -0500, you wrote:

Susan,

Well! You added Great, New Features… Super!.. but did you add a new
model; Base, Top, Line and last but not least… Gun Colors??? … For
Example, If you purchased an OUTLET Box made to ‘hang’ on ‘Stud Wall’, then
you may have added a handle??

‘Our Customers’ need to know!

Jim

Aw, gosh (she says, blushing) twasn’t nuttin. Same basic model; hadn’t
given a thought to the handle (hmmmmm…). Smashing blue and orange colors
on the gun; I’m not a pastel kind of person so the craft shop variety was
out. Besides, I needed one with a large enough metal area to solder the
coupling onto.

Now you’ve got ME thinking about the plating pen!

Susan

C Gems
Original Designs and Period Jewelry
cgems@pipeline.com


#7

At 09:51 AM 11/1/96 -0500, you wrote:

Hey Susan,

We’re going to have to rename this gun the; SDJS Wax gun… with the 'pastry
bag ’ improvement, I don’t believe there’s another one on the market with
this flexibility . . . could you easily make permanent or better yet,
TEMPORARY TIPS??? … For single designs???

Now you have me running back to Home Depot…

Jim

Hiya, Jim,

Aw, just tack me on to the first “S”; sorta like S-squared…

The beauty of using the coupling is that you unscrew the collar, slip on a
tip then re-screw the collar on (just like the pastry bag couplings) and
that makes them interchangable. Have gotten some neat effects with the
specialty tips like ribbon and star; don’t have a clue what I’ll use 'em for
yet, but I’m having a blast playing around with it!

Think at this rate Home Depot will start accepting our tax ID #s?

Susan

C Gems
Original Designs and Period Jewelry
cgems@pipeline.com


#8

Susan,
Its pretty well designed by ‘Da Forum crew’ . . . Intend to build/assemble a
proto-type this week-end…

Jim

At 03:19 PM 11/1/96 -0500, you wrote:


#9

Gotta do the pastry thing this week-end… really not sure what it looks like
but assume when I see the HD plumbing thingy I’ll understand…

You kiding, going to learn to make miniture roses like on cakes and very
small ruffles around the top of cakes . . do them in silver maybe segmented
and coupled together with whatever!!! … I’m thinking … bucks like the
Omega chain fad caught on…

accept our #s H… , let’s talk discount!!!

Jim

At 03:11 PM 11/1/96 -0500, you wrote:


#10

At 05:24 PM 11/1/96 -0500, you wrote:

Gotta do the pastry thing this week-end… really not sure what it looks like
but assume when I see the HD plumbing thingy I’ll understand…

You kiding, going to learn to make miniture roses like on cakes and very
small ruffles around the top of cakes . . do them in silver maybe segmented
and coupled together with whatever!!! … I’m thinking … bucks like the
Omega chain fad caught on…

accept our #s H… , let’s talk discount!!!

Jim

Try looking at a coupler for a regular pastry bag first; it will give you an
idea of what to get at HD. Wouldn’t hurt to get one or two tips to take
with you, either, since they come in slightly different sizes. What the
hell you tell the staff when they come up and ask if they can help is up to
your imagination.

Just had an incredible mental image of a silver Cinderella-style wedding
cake…no, no, I know that wasn’t what you were thinking about, I just have
a warped mind. Though yer right about the Omega chain thing; stranger
things and all that.

Yeah, discount, that’s the ticket. Besides, we’ve given them a truckload of
free advertising so far, it would be the least they could do!

Susan

C Gems
Original Designs and Period Jewelry
cgems@pipeline.com


#11

Hey, WHAT KIND OF WAX are you using in the SSDJSS Wax Gun? How are you
feeding it in and making it come out the tip? Are you making your own wax
sticks that fit these things? I’m going to make one too and could use some
tips here from the pioneering research and development team of
DJSS&S…DAve

Art Jewelry for Conscious People
http://www.opendoor.com/stephensdesign/crystalguy.html


#12

Aw, gosh (she says, blushing) twasn’t nuttin. Same basic model; hadn’t
given a thought to the handle (hmmmmm…). Smashing blue and orange colors
on the gun; I’m not a pastel kind of person so the craft shop variety was
out. Besides, I needed one with a large enough metal area to solder the
coupling onto.

Now you’ve got ME thinking about the plating pen!

Susan

Gosh, didn’t anybody like my “camo” color gun? Back to the drawing board…Dave

Art Jewelry for Conscious People
http://www.opendoor.com/stephensdesign/crystalguy.html


#13

At 02:50 AM 11/2/96 -0800, you wrote:

Hey, WHAT KIND OF WAX are you using in the SSDJSS Wax Gun? How are you
feeding it in and making it come out the tip? Are you making your own wax
sticks that fit these things? I’m going to make one too and could use some
tips here from the pioneering research and development team of
DJSS&S…DAve

Art Jewelry for Conscious People
http://www.opendoor.com/stephensdesign/crystalguy.html

Dunno about the others, but I’m using the wax rods made for the Matt™ wax
gun sold by Rio Grande. Comes in blue, green and red wax and fits the glue
gun. You put the rod in the hole in the back of the gun and feed it to the
nozzle by squeezing the trigger; this controls the feed and it takes some
practice to be able to maintain a constant pressure. The trigger feeds the
rod past the heating elements so you get a solid rod in, mallable wax out
(or slush, if you have the rheostat too high!).

HTH,

Susan

C Gems
Original Designs and Period Jewelry
cgems@pipeline.com


#14

Susan Chenoweth wrote:

At 02:50 AM 11/2/96 -0800, you wrote:

Hey, WHAT KIND OF WAX are you using in the SSDJSS Wax Gun? How are you
feeding it in and making it come out the tip? Are you making your own wax
sticks that fit these things? I’m going to make one too and could use some
tips here from the pioneering research and development team of
DJSS&S…DAve

Art Jewelry for Conscious People
http://www.opendoor.com/stephensdesign/crystalguy.html

Dunno about the others, but I’m using the wax rods made for the Matt™ wax
gun sold by Rio Grande. Comes in blue, green and red wax and fits the glue
gun. You put the rod in the hole in the back of the gun and feed it to the
nozzle by squeezing the trigger; this controls the feed and it takes some
practice to be able to maintain a constant pressure. The trigger feeds the
rod past the heating elements so you get a solid rod in, mallable wax out
(or slush, if you have the rheostat too high!).

HTH,

Susan

What guality of jewelry can anyone create with a wax gun other than
clunky. Please advise, Ignorant


#15

At 10:56 AM 11/2/96 -0600, you wrote:

What guality of jewelry can anyone create with a wax gun other than
clunky. Please advise, Ignorant

Well, with the addition of the fine pastry tip I have been able to extrude a
wax wire down to 24g so far; worked up a free-form filigree pattern on a
ring mandrel I’m very pleased with. The tips will allow you to form fine
wire patterns with grooves as well. Granted, the larger tips will indeed
produce large, clunky pieces but delicate patterns and designs are easily
possible with the smaller tips. Actually, I’m finding the wax easier to
manipulate out of the gun than when I work with wax wire since the wax is
warm throughout and even on the more brittle wax can be bent and formed
without breaking. Course, I need all the help I can get since I am FAR from
being a master model maker .

Susan

C Gems
Original Designs and Period Jewelry
cgems@pipeline.com


#16

Susan Chenoweth wrote:

At 10:56 AM 11/2/96 -0600, you wrote:

What guality of jewelry can anyone create with a wax gun other than
clunky. Please advise, Ignorant

Well, with the addition of the fine pastry tip I have been able to extrude a
wax wire down to 24g so far; worked up a free-form filigree pattern on a
ring mandrel I’m very pleased with. The tips will allow you to form fine
wire patterns with grooves as well. Granted, the larger tips will indeed
produce large, clunky pieces but delicate patterns and designs are easily
possible with the smaller tips. Actually, I’m finding the wax easier to
manipulate out of the gun than when I work with wax wire since the wax is
warm throughout and even on the more brittle wax can be bent and formed
without breaking. Course, I need all the help I can get since I am FAR from
being a master model maker .

Susan
All that comes out is wire, right? Limited!


#17

At 02:31 PM 11/2/96 -0600, you wrote:

All that comes out is wire, right? Limited!

MG,

No, that isn’t all; I simply chose that as an example. There are other
forming possibities, limited only by ones imagination. That’s like someone
looking at a 20g sheet of wax and saying “Oh, flat, right? Limited!”

Susan

C Gems
Original Designs and Period Jewelry
cgems@pipeline.com


#18

Susan Chenoweth wrote:

At 02:31 PM 11/2/96 -0600, you wrote:

All that comes out is wire, right? Limited!

MG,

No, that isn’t all; I simply chose that as an example. There are other
forming possibities, limited only by ones imagination. That’s like someone
looking at a 20g sheet of wax and saying “Oh, flat, right? Limited!”

Susan

C Gems
Original Designs and Period Jewelry
cgems@pipeline.com
I guess I need to have something to carve, something that is hard enough
to carve and finish it to a “no flaw” finish. I was being judgemental
because I started out with soft wax useing the addition method. I
reached a point in my career that could no longer be expressed using
that method. this is when I began the exploration of hard carving waxes.
With this method I can create more exacting models and works of art. I
was in no way begrudging you, All I could see was a big tool trying to
do small work.I was talking about me, no-one else.


#19

I had a friend in a small jewelry class I took buy that expensive Matt wax
gun, little did she know we’d invent a cheapo version. Anyway, one way that
she ended up usingit was to make squiggles on an aluminum pan to which she
then added bezel set stones after casting the squiggles. Some of them were
very elegant looking. I’m sure with a little goofing around some cool uses
could be invented. Dave

Art Jewelry for Conscious People
http://www.opendoor.com/stephensdesign/crystalguy.html


#20

At 10:05 PM 11/2/96 -0600, you wrote:

I guess I need to have something to carve, something that is hard enough
to carve and finish it to a “no flaw” finish. I was being judgemental
because I started out with soft wax useing the addition method. I
reached a point in my career that could no longer be expressed using
that method. this is when I began the exploration of hard carving waxes.
With this method I can create more exacting models and works of art. I
was in no way begrudging you, All I could see was a big tool trying to
do small work.I was talking about me, no-one else.

MG,

Although I do a lot of artistic work with my medium, I’m afraid I am (so
far) absolutely HOPELESS at carving - hence my reliance on other methods to
translate my thoughts into pieces. Working with soft wax does have
limitations and takes a lot more refining to produce a great finish, but
then you haven’t seen my attempts at carving ;-). That’s what makes this
such a great forum; all of us use slightly different methods but with the
same goal, to create beauty from the raw materials.

Susan

C Gems
Original Designs and Period Jewelry
cgems@pipeline.com