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Neatening up Glue Around Bead Tips


#1

Greetings, fellow Orchidians! I hope that you have had a wonderful
holiday season. I have a question about a detail that can make or
break whether a necklace is bought. I am using covered clamshells for
some necklaces and am wondering what techniques some of you use to
neaten up any tiny amounts of glue that might spill out of the sides
of the clamshells when they have been closed over glued sik knots. I
hope that my description makes sense and apologize for asking about
such a tiny detail. I have tried to neaten up the glue by wiping it
with a towel while it is still wet, but sometimes the glue has just
dried in streaks. I have tried using less glue or using the largest
clamshells that I could but this still results in some glue sqishing
out. So I am wondering what I can use or do to remove the excess glue
so that the necklace still looks nice under close inspection. Most of
the times, the necklaces I am making are pearls or other stones that
might be sensitive to harsh chemical processes.


#2

It depends on the glue you are using but I do alot of glue work with
watches and find that going back to the piece after about 10 minutes
with a pointy toothpick and I can pick away the excess glue very
easily. Because at this stage of drying it is tacky it comes away very
easily and neatly.

Cheers.
BTW This is my first post (reply) Hope its ok and “by the book”.


#3

Howdy…Great question. I am insetting opal in other stone i.e.
obsidian, onyx etc. and am having the same problem as I am dealing
with finished stones. So far my best solution is to carefully scrape
away excess glue with xacto knife and then repolish with a small felt
buff and diamond paste (dremel). If there is a better solution I
would sure like to hear it also. Hope this helps a little…

Bob


#4
I am using covered clamshells for some necklaces and am wondering
what techniques some of you use to neaten up any tiny amounts of
glue that might spill out of the sides of the clamshells when they
have been closed over glued sik knots.

Annabel - don’t know what kind of glue you are using on your knots.
I use G-S Hypo Cement - just the least amount to dampen the knot.
Then let the knot dry before closing the clamshell. Depending on how
big your knots are, they should dry fairly quickly. Why not tie a few
knots (of the sizes you use the most often), put glue on them and
then time it to see how long it takes to dry. I think if you let the
glue dry first before closing up the clam shell you shouldn’t have a
problem.

K


#5

I work at a bead shop and we use Hypo glue because it doesn’t leave
a residue and is very strong.

Happy New Year,
Denise
Just Because Designs


#6

Annabel

What type of glue do you use? I find most don’t work well. they get
too stiff and cause the cord to break, they also gush out too much.
I like to use watch crysal cement (the little tube) it stays very
flexible and comes out in minut amounts. And any excess is easy to
peel off like rubber cement.

Candy


#7

Annabel,

The cleanup would probably depend on the type of glue you are using.
When I use 2 part epoxy or a slow drying cyanacrylate I clean it up
with rubbing alcohol. You could use an alcohol wipe or probably even
a hand wipe that contains alcohol. I don’t think it would hurt the
pearls, but I’m not a pearl expert(??)


#8

Why are you even using glue in the first place? It’s only gonna
weaken the fibers of the silk.

Glue + Fibers (silk, cotton, nylon, etc.) = Bad

Ann-Marie


#9
neaten up any tiny amounts of glue that might spill out of the
sides of the clamshells when they have been closed over glued sik
knots 

happy new year Annabel. my suggestion is to let the glue set before
you close over the clamshell findings- i don’t think the clamshells
need to be glued, just bent in half,

cheers, Christine in Sth Aust.


#10

Hi Annabel,

I agree with Christos, it does depend on the glue you are using. I
generally use French wire with pearls; but when I do glue, I use G-S
Hypo Cement. It has a needle-size applicator which allows you to be
very precise… as a result, it’s much easier to put just the right
amount of glue on your knot with little to no spillover. The few
times I’ve used clamshells, I just wait until the glue has dried
before closing the shell (and this glue dries clear).

Cheers!


#11
Glue + Fibers (silk, cotton, nylon, etc.) = Bad 

Thanks for this advice. What would you recommend that I do instead?


#12

Thanks to all of you for your advice! This is why I love Orchid. I
also use G-S hypo cement. I thought that I needed to also glue the
clamshells closed as well. I will just use less glue, wait for the
glue to dry and then close the clamshells.

A few more questions: Are any of you worried about the necklace
unraveling. It is a bit scary to me that two or four knots are what
is holding a necklace together. Also do you cut right up to the knot
or leave a little bit of space? I find that the extra cord tends to
stick out just a teensy, weensy bit out of the clamshells.

Thanks a ton.
Annabel


#13

As I read the posts concerning what kind of glue to use in bead
stringing and bead tips, I was surprised to find so many use G-S Hypo
glue to do the work. I hadn’t thought of that but I can’t help
wondering if maybe that might work in cases of needing to glue a
pearl
onto an earring post setting. Would that work or would the bond be
poor, bad for the pearl?

Anyone have some insight for that one? At our shop we have
epoxy…but sometimes either through operator error or humidity,
applicator gone wild, epoxy doesn’t bond the two.

Thanks so much,
Rene Howard


#14

Rene,

As I read the posts concerning what kind of glue to use in bead
stringing and bead tips, I was surprised to find so many use G-S
Hypo glue to do the work. 

The use of 2 part epoxy I find is the most certain way of knowing
the pearl has stuck for certain. Although this is a bit tedious I
always write the job number on the small sheet of plastic I mix my
epoxy on. I then go back after an hour to see how it has set. The
following morning I may have up to 10 little sheets to check how
well they have cured. Not too often I have a bad mix and I go back to
the job remove pearl(s) and start again. Hypo cement though cant be
trusted although it has a higher temperature rating it seems more
"brittle" once set. Epoxy seems more flexible and if the pearl moves
after glue has set I have often put it in hot water for the glue to
go guey again move it and it resets when it cools down. Hypo cement
will not harm pearls as far as I know.

Cheers
Chris


#15
I can't help wondering if maybe that might work in cases of needing
to glue a pearl onto an earring post setting. Would that work or
would the bond be poor, bad for the pearl? 

I would suggest Epoxy 330 for the pearl. 330 cures fairly quickly and
is transparent. I eyeball the proportions and mix with a clean
toothpick. So far it’s worked.

Humidity is necessary for the epoxy to cure.

HTH


#16

Hello Rene,

I just read your question about gluing a pearl onto a peg and would
just like to let you know about the glue that I use. It is called
E-Z Fix and it is the best glue that I have ever tried. My husband
found it for me and I was skeptical at first, but it has done
wonders for me. It needs no mixing and comes in liquid or gel. I can
glue my pearls onto a peg using the liquid and just hold it for 30
seconds or so and I have yet to have one come off. Also, I am a
lapidary as well as a jewelry artist and I can use the gel to fill a
fracture in a piece of stone, and then dop it and go ahead and grind
and polish it and most of the time, you can’t even tell that it ever
had a fracture.

You can get it from Tony Cruz who is a very nice man to do business
with. His email is gluemanezfix@earthlink.net or you can leave a
message at 941-721-1902. I am sure that you will love it if you
decide to give it a try.

Thanks to all of you for your great advice and hope all had a
wonderful holiday.

Lona Northener


#17
You could use an alcohol wipe or probably even a hand wipe that
contains alcohol. I don't think it would hurt the pearls, but I'm
not a pearl expert(??) 

I wouldn’t go anywhere near a pearl with alcohol. But that’s just
me.


#18

Thanks for telling us about E-Z fix. I always try new glues. I am
very happy with the glue I am currently using, Zap-A-Gap. Sold at Ace
Hardware. Try it, you’ll love it.