Reply to: orchid@ganoksin.com
Howdy All: I am somewhat of a beginner at drafting
and graphics. Have been having trouble…well, mostly
frustration… with the mouse. With the standard one
the ball inside slips making the cursor response sketchy
(irratic).
More than once I’ve thought
about trying to see if that little ball inside
there bounces. Does anyone use a better mouse? I know of
the turbomouse but would it be good with Autocad or other
graphics programs?
Susan
Susan -
I’m just guessing but have you tried cleaning the little ball? When my
mouse gets like that I unscrew the back and clean off all the lint and
"crud". It’s always handled it.
Cheryl
Actually I was going to ask a similar question. Is there a better mouse?
But it may be a trap. . . . I figure, and this is one for the experienced,
that getting an electronic pad and pen would be a more accurate and intuitive
tool for drafting whatever. Am I right ya’ll?
Susan,
I don’t know what type of machine you’re using or what software, but
maybe a pen would work better for you and give you the “touch” you need.
Richard
Howdy All: I am somewhat of a beginner at drafting
and graphics. Have been having trouble…well, mostly
frustration… with the mouse. With the standard one
the ball inside slips making the cursor response sketchy
(irratic).
More than once I’ve thought
about trying to see if that little ball inside
there bounces. Does anyone use a better mouse?
I’ve been using Logitech trackballs for years. Use them with AutoCAD v.12.
The only problem I’ve come across is dirt. The mechanism needs to be cleaned
out from time to time. I imagine that any mouse needs cleaning
occaisionally, but a goldsmith’s shop is particularly hostile. Every six
weeks or so I unplug the trackball, remove the ball and drop it in the
ultrasonic, dry it in alcohol, let it air dry for an hour or so and plug it
back in.
Bruce D. Holmgrain
E-mail: Manmountaindense@Knight-Hub.com
WWW: http://www.knight-hub.com/manmtndense/bhh3.htm
Snail Mail: POB 7972, McLean, VA 22106
Should be a ‘sensitivity’ setting . . MS mouse … nice feel to the hand
(palm), IBM, maybe too sensitive… , THUMB BALLS … great for about 2/3
hours… then your THUMB is paralyzed, LogiTech generally all around good
Mouse…
Really … never tried to do detailed work with a mouse … IF I really
wanted to ‘DIG IN’ I will investigate the pad…
.0001 Cents 'n value
Jim
At 07:20 AM 10/23/96 -0700, you wrote:
caffree@aztec.asu.edu (SUSAN B. CARD) wrote:
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: Howdy All: I am somewhat of a beginner at drafting
: and graphics. Have been having trouble…well, mostly
: frustration… with the mouse. With the standard one
: the ball inside slips making the cursor response sketchy
: (irratic).
: More than once I’ve thought
: about trying to see if that little ball inside
: there bounces. Does anyone use a better mouse? I know of
: the turbomouse but would it be good with Autocad or other
: graphics programs?
:
: Susan
The ball usually isn’t the problem. Remove it, then scrape off the
“gunk” from the two rollers (vertical and horizontal control) and the
spring-loaded “idler” roller (control tension). Best way is to
dismantle the mouse - four screws.
A better “hand” mouse is ball-less ;-), using optical tracking. More
expensive but never any trouble.
For drawing, though, a “pen” mouse would be best. It’s like a big ball
point pen, held with the fingers (my wife uses one for clothes design).
Check your local computer shop or mail order catalog.
Hope this helps.
Darryl
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Yes, but it’s not … De Plane, De PLane… Its De thumb, De thumb…Been
there done that… try it for, shall we say 6 hours…
Jim
At 04:10 PM 10/23/96 -0400, you wrote:
Howdy All: I am somewhat of a beginner at drafting
and graphics. Have been having trouble…well, mostly
frustration… with the mouse. With the standard one
the ball inside slips making the cursor response sketchy
(irratic).
More than once I’ve thought
about trying to see if that little ball inside
there bounces. Does anyone use a better mouse? I know of
the turbomouse but would it be good with Autocad or other
graphics programs?
Susan
Susan: your mouse slips because its DIRTY. You have to pull the ball out
every so often and wash it in dish detergent. When its out look inside and
see if the rollers are clean or gunked up with dust or lint. Clean gunk of
with a q-tip and alcohol and pull out the lint with tweezers. I am a
graphic designer of 25 years and do very detailed work in photoshop using
nothing but a mouse. You should be able to slow or speed up you mouse
settings the way you like, but then I use a Mac which is a MUCH superior
machine for graphics work. Virtually every magazine or ad you see and most
packaging is all done on Macs…Dave
Art Jewelry for Conscious People
http://www.opendoor.com/stephensdesign/crystalguy.html
Hee hee hee
second the Mac thoughts…
Charles
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If the cleaning as Sean suggests does not work, will need to look into
alternatives. Do you use a pen, Richard? With or without a tablet?
Have you seen or know of the turbomouse? (Essentially it switches the
tiny ball on the bottom to a large ball on the top. One moves this
with the palm of their hand while the apparatus stays stationary.)
BTW, have cleaned my mouse & pad before, just not the inside contacts.
Hope that works. Much thanks to all.
Susan
Thanks Cheryl, but I have tried that. It’s like the ball gets stuck
…I keep shaking and tapping it to “loosen” it up/drop it down…
I’d throw it except for that connector wire (well, and economic
sense (cents)) 
Can one buy a defective mouse do you suppose?
Susan
Thanks Sean, will try as you suggest.
Susan
Dave is having a Mac attack…that’s o.k. Dave, we forgive you.
Will try the resetting as you suggest. Last think to try.
Thanks to all for the help.
Susan
(snip), but then I use a Mac which is a MUCH superior machine for graphics
work. Virtually every magazine or ad you see and most packaging is all
done on Macs…Dave
@SUSAN_B_CARD (SUSAN B. CARD) wrote:
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Thanks Darryl: Nice to know there’s not only one mouse trap 
Susan
Dave,
I have tried to get from Susan what type of machine DOS, Windoze she is
using. Obviously, by her Mac attack comment, she’s one of them and not a
Macer. Too bad for her!
Hang in there! Mac will over come!!!
Richard
Hi Richard: Don’t recall you having asked me a question regarding
what type of machine…in any event…it is Windows 95 and soon to
be Windows NT. One uses what is applicable to what they are doing IMO.
I also have read that the truly high-end graphics users have both types
of machines and run programs specific to each to complete a project.
It is from my reading too that I have the opinion that Macs do not have
the 3D graphics capabilities, correct me if I am misinformed…which I
know you will… My machine is generic and very upgradeable, and
nonproprietary ,those were my needs at this time. I may get a
Mac but it would not be my only machine.
Hope this answers any confusion.
Susan
Dave,
I have tried to get from Susan what type of machine DOS, Windoze she is
using. Obviously, by her Mac attack comment, she’s one of them and not a
Macer. Too bad for her!
Hang in there! Mac will over come!!!
Yes, true, we all know Windows 95=Mac 1987 maybe someday they will catch
on to the fact that even with Windows its still not a Mac! the Mac
interface existed way before Bill Gates ripped off their OS…Dave
Art Jewelry for Conscious People
http://www.opendoor.com/stephensdesign/crystalguy.html
Hi Richard: Don’t recall you having asked me a question regarding
what type of machine…in any event…it is Windows 95 and soon to
be Windows NT. One uses what is applicable to what they are doing IMO.
I also have read that the truly high-end graphics users have both types
of machines and run programs specific to each to complete a project.
It is from my reading too that I have the opinion that Macs do not have
the 3D graphics capabilities, correct me if I am misinformed…which I
know you will… My machine is generic and very upgradeable, and
nonproprietary ,those were my needs at this time. I may get a
Mac but it would not be my only machine.
Hope this answers any confusion.
Susan
Susan: Macs do have high end 3d programs, something that doesn’t really
interest me much. The main use of Macs for professional use is in graphic
design and printing. I do CD covers , posters , billboards, ads, etc. ad
nauseum and the Mac is and always was the leader in that industry. If you
take your print project to a service bureau and give them an IBM disk their
more than liable to tell you good luck and they’re not responsible for
whatever comes out of their imagesetters. The PC just never made it all the
way in our field. The thing that surprises me is that back in the early
80’s, there was the Mac Plus, the Amiga 1000 and those DOS machines. The
Amiga was clearly the best damn machine of them all with full color
graphics and mostly a Mac style interface. Unfortunately the company was
run by an idiot who did everything wrong marketing wise. One of the Star
Trek movies requested an Amiga for their plot and were told they would have
to BUY one! A Mac Plus ended up in the flick and the rest is history. The
Amiga survived as a video machine and many sci-fi tv shows have their
animations done on Amiga systems these days. BUT Jurassic Park’s dinosaurs
were all done on Mac workstations that did all the 3d animations. I’m not
sure what PC’s are good for but seems alot of auto cad people use them. I
suppose you could use them as a calculator? If you have some time to kill
you can see my graphics work on my neglected design page at:
http://www.opendoor.com/stephensdesign/ go to the portfolio page to see
what one can do with a Mac. Dave
Art Jewelry for Conscious People
http://www.opendoor.com/stephensdesign/crystalguy.html
Dave,
A fellow just gave me some Amiga equipment.All sorts of stuff here and
seems to be in fairly good shape.Don’t know how to hook it up but he
gave me an old 286 and alot of peripherial stuff.Wonder what to do with
it and now I see you seem to know some about it …help…Gavin