Master goldsmith qualifications

One of the things I think is unfair is the rate of pay an
apprentice gets in Australia... pretty much starvation wages. Is it
like that in the states? 

At some point an apprentice should make at least minimum wage after
they are worthy of it. BUT, why is it that a person will pay to go to
college but thinks they should get paid being an apprentice. An
apprentice takes time away from the person teaching them which cost
the store money, so in reality an apprentice should pay the store for
the first few months.

Bill Wismar

Hi Peter,

Pretty much. Some companies are better than others. But heck. low
wages are not limited in this business to just beginners. And this
economy hasn't helped things much... 

$7 an hour is pretty awful, it’s almost like a hazing, the standard
award wage in Australia is $15 an hour for unskilled labour.

The other problem Australia is having, is that jewellery apprentices
aren’t being taken on, work is getting farmed out overseas.

Recently a policy change will limit the number of students that can
get into the trade jewellery course that I’m currently completing.
The policy wont effect me, I’m now in my last year, and those
currently in the stream have immunity from the policy. The suggested
policy is that anyone can join the course, but if they don’t have an
apprenticeship within 3 months they’re out.

The policy change and the low uptake of apprentices will effectively
kill the respected trade course in Sydney. It’ll probably be taken
up by the private sector, but it will make it unaffordable for a lot
of talented people.

In a way it’s business as usual as far as the economy is concerned
here in Oz, it’s just more cost effective to send work overseas.

Regards Charles A.

Peter, I like the way you think critically about the different ways
of looking at a “MFA” and Master Goldsmith, how each has its merit
and perspective. I would like to add a few things to the mix.

An MFA grad is also taught & trained in the nuances of teaching
students at the collegiate level. Not necessarily teaching bench
skills in the way a Master Goldsmith might teach an apprentice, but
teaching the basic principles of metalsmithing, stone setting, etc.
and also teaching that critical thinking, analysis, etc. in the
manner in which the MFA student themselves were taught in their own
programs.

What struck me at my college is, many times the MFA students were in
the very same classes I attended, yet their requirements were just a
bit heavier in what they had to accomplish to get their grade. I
often wondered, "So, if I turn in my paper with just 10 more pages,
and give an oral presentation of my research, that means I should get
the credits toward an “MFA” class instead of the “BFA” I am earning?"
Something fishy there.

But, I was lucky enough during my BFA program to have some extra
time in school. I dual majored in interior design so I added a year
of study before doing my BFA Thesis show & graduating. During this
final year my professor worked with me building into that year a set
of classes designed to give me experience teaching the beginning
students. It is not typical for a BFA student to work as a TA or to
teach at all. I got the chance to direct the beginning metals classes
while my prof was away having surgery. I loved it. I loved to teach &
I wanted that extra time with the students, too.

My prof & I discussed and I considered having him to proctor me for
the Bench Jeweler’s exams during this extra year. Once looking in to
the expense of doing that, I had to let that go and we just
concentrated on making sure I learned & became competent at those
skills required, most of which I was already taught to do during my
education in metals. But I did realize when researching the bench
exams that that are a great many things a bench jeweler learns to do
that are just not typically covered in jewelry & metalsmithing
courses at universities. We worked on many those and I did projects
that included those requirements. I feel lucky I got that bit of
extra time, but many metals students do not.

One other thing I would add here, too. During one of our “class
trips” to the SNAG Convention we spent a great deal of time talking
with a group of other students, people from all over the US, at the
"Student Mixers" they hold on the first day each convention. It came
out during one discussion that there are BFA & MFA Metals programs in
which some students had NEVER TOUCHED METAL. I was shocked & amazed
by this. There are programs out there in which students learn all
about the metal, it’s properties, how it does what it does, they take
all their art history classes, their general ed, etc., do their other
required studio classes, and yet for their metals studios they learn
to design on CAD/CAM software programs. I was just amazed that one
can call it a “metals studio” class, and yet there is no hands on
work with metal at all! They were graduating with the very same
degree that I was, and yet they had never once hammered, forged,
cast, set stones, etc., etc., etc. NEVER touching the metal with
their own artistic hand. How could they graduate with a Jewelry &
Metalsmithing degree? I still don’t get it and consider myself very
lucky that I get to actually manually manipulate the medium that I
love so well.

Anyway, I thought I would throw this into the mix, too.
You can have an advanced degree in Metalsmithing, and have never laid
hand on the medium. Interesting, huh?

Teresa

At some point an apprentice should make at least minimum wage
after they are worthy of it. BUT, why is it that a person will pay
to go to college but thinks they should get paid being an
apprentice. 

As long as the arrangement is agreeable to both the apprentice and
the craftsman (can I say “master”?) it really isn’t anybody else’s
business what the deal is.

An apprentice takes time away from the person teaching them which
cost the store money, so in reality an apprentice should pay the
store for the first few months. 

I have had several people offer to work for free in exchange for
learning. I don’t take that offer because my business IS a business.
The deal I make is the apprentice starts at minimum wage. For the
first several months they show that they are honest and reliable and
it becomes pretty obvious if they have talent or aptitude. During the
apprenticeship wages are low but I do teach them skills that go
beyond what I need done at the moment. The apprentices are encouraged
to work on their own creative ideas, off the clock, and I will help
them with that. I also give them custom projects from customers that
are appropriate to their skill levels. This actually helps them learn
problem solving and creative thinking much faster than just having
them donkey out my production pieces.

If everything works out, the apprentices get raises, bonuses and I
have paid for them to attend conferences and workshops. This past
year two apprentices that had been with me for 4 years each were
“graduated” and given raises and certificates saying that their
apprenticeships were satisfactorily completed. They both still work
for me as jewelers.

Most of my apprentices have had art school training. Some have been
part time while still attending school and some came to me after they
finished a degree. They learn a lot from me and pretty quickly. It
does seem ironic that I actually pay them while they learn after they
have paid a fortune to attend school that so far does not seem to
make them any more likely to be successful than my apprentices who
didn’t have that kind of education. Motivation and talent are what I
look for in an apprentice. Generally it is the highly motivated
student who seeks out the apprenticeship opportunity.

Apprenticeship is education and training. It has a value. The deal I
make is that during the apprenticeship the training is part of the
compensation for labor I am getting from the apprentice. Two things
make my arrangement very different from the European system. There
are no government subsidies and no oversight, credentialing or
meddling from any outside authority. The quality of training, work
conditions and pay must be mutually agreeable and beneficial to both
parties.

Stephen Walker

Andover, NY

At some point an apprentice should make at least minimum wage
after they are worthy of it. BUT, why is it that a person will pay
to go to college but thinks they should get paid being an
apprentice. An apprentice takes time away from the person teaching
them which cost the store money, so in reality an apprentice should
pay the store for the first few months. 

There’s always two sides to a coin, Bill, sometimes the apprentice
is left to their own devices. In one instance an apprentice was left
to make everything, whilst the owner went to the beach. There was
little in the way of mentoring.

A lot of other nasty things are happening here as well, and the
apprenticeship board didn’t seem to be helping.

I get really rialled when I hear things like this, from talented
young people, that have a lot to offer. They have a responsibility to
do their best, and be responsible for expensive metals and gems. In
Australia an apprentice has to pay for their education.

I agree that an apprentice should be paid a base wage that’s
comparable to an unskilled worker (currently in Australia the
apprentice gets half the pay of an unskilled worker), increasing
yearly, until their last year of apprenticeship when they become a
qualified jeweller. They shouldn’t be a source of cheap labour.

Regards Charles A.

Just a side note, the MFA is the highest degree level offered in
fine art. (one can get a Phd in Art Education or Art History)
Somewhat like a Phd program, a thesis show is required, and I
belive, oral exams to defend your thesis. One does not need a MA to
enter an MFA program, as the MFA covers and goes beyond what is
taught in an MA program.

A B.F.A. is similar to a Bachelor of Arts degree in other liberal
arts fields, except there is no foregin language requirement. There
isn’t a “minor”, though the degree requirements result in what
amounts to a minor in art history.

(this is in the U.S.–I know little about other education systems)

Maureen

I got a BFA but before I got that degree I was already working as a
goldsmith. There is a huge difference between being a bench jeweler
and getting anart degree. I learned more about making jewelery in a
few months of being an apprentice than I did in years of classes. I
learned nothing about design while being a bench jeweler we made what
the customer wanted, which was 9 times out of 10 a copy of someone
elses work with everything that was unique and different about the
piece being copied removed in order to make it as plain and boring as
possible. You do not go to art school to learn a trade. You go to
learn to think, and see things differently. I was told by the
professor we are not a trade school you are here to learn about art
not become proficient with a torch if you want to be a bench jeweler
this is not how you do it. I got the best of both worlds I learned
good design and how to actually make something, I never had to do
repair in 20 years of being a jeweler, I was the guy who designed and
made the pieces. Most of the jewelers that I worked with learned from
their fathers they were multig enerational jewelers, they never had a
choice. They were told you are a goldsmith we have always been
goldsmiths so sit down a shut up this is what we do. To us on this
message board making jewelry all day is a great job to many of these
folks it is just like being a plumber or an electrician it is just a
job, they used to think I was nuts because I was so excited to come
to work. 22 years later I still love making jewelry and the guys that
taught me are still sitting behind the bench smoking cigerettes
drinking coffee and fixing jewelry and setting diamonds. You need
both experience and education to be sucessful.

Amen James, amen.

I think of Master’s degrees a lot like black belts in martial arts
(since it was brought up). I’m a 3rd degree (San Dan) instructor in
Mastumura Seito Shorin-Ryu. Time and time again I watch people train
for a black belt thinking that once they have it, they’ll be a
“master” or be able to “handle themselves in any situation”. In
reality, all a black belt is, is a graduation from kindergarten. It’s
a “congratulations, you’ve learned the ABCs”; an acknowledgment that
you are no longer a novice, but FAR from a master of anything. Though
this is anecdotal, my experience has been similar with Master’s
degrees. Just like a black belt, all it says is, “congratulations,
you are no longer a beginner.” I won’t bore everyone with a lengthy
post delving into the similarities of the two, but from a knowledge,
skill, application, etc. level, the similarities between what people
“expect” of both Master’s degrees and Black Belts are quite strong to
me. In the end, they are just symbols that person X, isn’t a
beginner, but that doesn’t mean they are anything more than that.

Erich C. Shoemaker
Erich Christopher Designs, LLC

I’m sorry I opened a can of worms. I started out learning jewelry in
high school, started my jewelry business, then went to college and
grad school, then went to work for a couple of jewelry stores
repairing jewelry ( which I learned a lot from the quirky world of
jewelry repair), and ended up teaching. One thing I find very ironic,
is that just to teach in K-12 schools, you need all kinds of
certifications and degrees to teach kids. Once you get into college,
pretty much anyone with a Master’s degree can teach college courses.
The frustrating thing I find with colleges is that they want teachers
with Masters degrees teaching very basic classes. I burned out after
teaching over a decade basic jewelry classes in two art colleges and
I had to leave. Yet, they are willing to have grad students teach
basic classes. I had so much pressure on me to teach the basic BFA
classes, and I was happier teaching more advanced classes. Colleges
need all the fancy degrees they can get. I had to get out before I
lost my mind and my soul to the art college I was working for. I
rebuilt the jewelry program for them, and they pay me back by pushing
me out.

Call me a refugee from the academic world - I can’t take the BS, the
politics anymore. I do feel colleges don’t teach enough, and you
need to go into the jewelry field to get a better education. I
learned a lot more from my years as a benchworker the technical
side, while the design aspect was honed during college. I feel you
need to be proficent in both technical and design to do well as a
jeweler.

My feeling is that, if you want to be a good benchworker, go learn
from a technical school or a jeweler who’s willing to train you. I’m
glad I got a solid benchworking education from the jewelry stores I
worked at. Still, some things like stonesetting, is best with
someone who can teach you the finer details of setting stones.
That’s why I spend so much time teaching - trying to get people to
learn jewerlymaking correctly and efficiently.

Joy

A wonderful defense of the MFA and a insightful contrast of how a
goldsmith might view art metal work and how a metal artist might
view it.  And that is all well and good but I still will stand by
my statement that a Masters degree in anything just means you are a
somewhat better educated beginner than someone holding a Bachelors
degree 

And I don’t really dispute your statement. An MFA degree means
demonstrated professional competence. It does NOT mean “experienced”.
There is no teacher or course of study that even remotely equals
actual experience, and this is particularly true in jewelry work, but
is also true in many other fields. Even a newly minted PhD is still
just pretty new, even if competent and well trained and ready to
begin a professional career. Perhaps the key difference in the
training of an art school student of jewelry versus the training in a
traditional european apprenticeship is that the apprenticeship is
long enough, and full time, that the student not only is taught the
skills, but has time to practice and refine them over time, and gains
those several years of actual professional level experience. Time
itself is the key factor, and what simply cannot quite be added to
the university program.

Peter

Now lets apply what we know:

I am beginning a search for another Master Goldsmith to join our
team. We specialize in custom and one of a kind studio goldsmithing.
We have have had another good year and it is time to grow our staff.
I am looking for someone with a highly skilled background, with
several years professional experience, who can work independently
and perform most of the functions of a working shop. We are located
in the near north suburbs of Chicago, and you can check us out on
our web site: www.ChristopherDuquet.com

Please feel free to e mail me off line if you are interested in a
new position in a serious ( and enjoyable ) professional
goldsmithing studio.

Christopher

An MFA degree means demonstrated professional competence. 

Well, I’d suggest that graduating the GIA courses is professional
competence, not college, but I also enjoyed Peter’s little
dissertation.

Thing is, getting back to the original question - goldsmithing is
about skill. Skill is largely good old fashioned hand-eye
coordination with a wide variety of tools and equipment. I’ve said
the same thing on other topics about growing in the field: You don’t
gain skills by reading books or even going to seminars. I can tell
you in one paragraph, right now, how to set a stone or how to polish
a ring, but it won’t make you a diamond setter. I have a job at a
setter right now that I’m perfectly capable of doing. He will do a
professional job and THAT I’m not especially capable of. There is
much knowlege that should be known, too, but most of being a
goldsmith in any context is knowing how to use a file. I have
750,000 hours of filing behind me…

John,

Well, I'd suggest that graduating the GIA courses is professional
competence, not college, but I also enjoyed Peter's little
dissertation. 

You’re confusing what I wrote… When I say the MFA is intended to
recognize professional competence, and you say GIA courses are what
does it for you, you’re comparing apples to oranges. Remember, the
MFA is an art school degree, NOT a trade school degree. GIA courses
train students in the practices of the jewelry trade. And in that,
they are recognized for training to competence levels in the subjects
they cover. The art school MFA on the other hand, trains to
professional competence in the arts. Even when the artist is working
in metals, and the degree states that it’s an MFA in metals and
jewelry, the intent is NOT that it’s trained the student in
professional metalsmithing or jewelry. This is a confusing point, and
understandably so, but nevertheless, the MFA demonstrates competence
in the practices of being an artist, working within the framework of
the fine arts, galleries, shows, competitions, and importantly,
academic realms of art, such as teaching the stuff. I know this seems
odd, as you’d naturally expect a degree stateing someone has the
credentials to teach a college level metals class should somehow also
certify actual technical ability. But this type of technical
certification has never been the intent, really, of the majority of
art school MFA’s both in metals and other disciplines and media. The
degrees aim instead, at creative thinking, original work rather than
work that’s mainstream or derivative. It’s rewarding the ability to
be an independent and original unique creator of art, not the actual
technical skills used to create the art. Again, I’d refer you to the
great esteem with which the crudely made simplistic jewelry of
Alexander Calder was, and is, viewed within the fine arts community,
art historians, art critics, and the like. The fact that a six year
old could, seeing the stuff, grab a hammer and duplicate most of it,
isn’t the important point. What’s important is more that Calder did
something nobody else was doing at the time within the world of
western accepted jewelry making; challenging people to rethink what
the definition of art, jewelry, personal adornment, and the nature of
why or when we define a thing as having value or an identity of rare
or precious. That creative thinking, challenging the norms,
reinventing the concept, was what made it art. Not the hammer blows.
The GIA trained thinker and show judge may be looking for the quality
of solder joints, the cleanliness of lines and form, the precision of
stone setting, and overall beauty of a piece to decide how good and
valuable it is or isn’t. The art world may notice these things of
course, but will ascribe importance to them mostly just in terms of
how well those features convey the nature of the thinking behind
them, the creativity involved, what it has to teach to the viewer.
Looked at like this, technical excellence is nice, but can sometimes
even get in the way, hampering the effectiveness of the work. In some
cases, the very lack of technical escellence may be needed to convey
the thought, such as in Calder’s jewelry.

When you say you prefer the GIA training, this is entirely
understandable, since you’re trained and experienced in, and work in
the jewelry world and industry, to it’s standards, rather than those
of the fine arts world of thought that the MFA degree is a part of.
And that’s fine. Just be aware that the two forms of training and
degrees or certificates are addressing quite different things.

Peter

But this type of technical certification has never been the intent,
really, of the majority of art school MFA's both in metals and
other disciplines and media. The degrees aim instead, at creative
thinking, original work rather than work that's mainstream or
derivative. 

Sorry Peter, but that just does not sell! My educational background
is Monumental Sculpture, but the curriculum included a lot of metal
disciplines and one simply cannot graduate without demonstrating high
degree of technical mastery, even if major emphasis was on art.

Check out this video

For some reason the website itself was taken down. That is the level
of work required for graduation.

As you can see, every pieces is original, creative, and expresses
artist view on knife function and traditional use. To understand
some, one has to be familiar with Russian folklore. Without such
knowledge, meaning can be elusive. But even then the art form,
composition, color coordination, material selection,- everything is
there. And technique is simply superb. No excuses, no lengthy
explanations, and no artist statements.

Leonid Surpin

Even when the artist is working in metals, and the degree states
that it's an MFA in metals and jewelry, the intent is NOT that it's
trained the student in professional metalsmithing or jewelry. 

First I’ll say that I’ve enjoyed Peter’s recent writings, and have no
argument with them. But it does go back to the OP who said that an
MFA, and some other things, is a “Master Goldsmith”. Despite what
Peter has said- maybe as an aside to what Peter has said - the term
is defined by the industry, already. Like everything else in jewelry.
Creativilty is a fine thing, and it’s most welcome in the industry,
too. But that’s not “a mastery of the art of goldsmithing” by any
means. Not an argument, just going back to the original question -
and it’s largely what Jim Binnion said long ago, too. Me, I’ve found
this thread interesting, but I just don’t care. I’ve known people who
I would call the title, but it would never occur to me to use it
about myself. I have to wonder why anyone would want to…

Peter,

.... When you say you prefer the GIA training, this is entirely
understandable, since you're trained and experienced in, and work
in the jewelry world and industry, to it's standards, rather than
those of the fine arts world of thought that the MFA degree is a
part of. And that's fine. Just be aware that the two forms of
training and degrees or certificates are addressing quite
different things. 

Thanks for the clarity you bring to this topic. The differences -
and inter-relatedness - of thetwo types of training and certification
processes has confused me for several years. Your response has
pointed out the value of both types training without denigrating one
or the other.

Mike

Sorry Peter, but that just does not sell! My educational
background is Monumental Sculpture, but the curriculum included a
lot of metal disciplines and one simply cannot graduate without
demonstrating high degree of technical mastery, even if major
emphasis was on art. 

Wonderful work in that video. However, perhaps you missed a point I
made (or at least, I thought I did) in an earlier post in this
thread. The statements defining the intent and meaning of an MFA
degree most apply to those degree’s granted by university programs
here in the U.S. and to some degree, in Canada. Elsewhere, it’s more
variable. In the UK, some schools tend to use the American model to a
degree, but most are a blending of the old guild
system/apprenticeship models, or at least the thinking about what is
being trained and tested for. The university masters degrees found in
europe (and I assume, Russia) are much more oriented on technical
skills, while the U.S. programs are more aimed at the
aesthetic/design skills. Here in the U.S., attempts are made to
teach the techniques involved, and students are expected, especially
at the Bachelor’s level, more than at the graduate level, to
demostrate technical skills taught in the classes. But it’s nothing
like the level of technique expected in some european programs (and
in the old Russian schools, as you know.)

It’s useful, in trying to understand this difference, to recall the
origins of the university art school programs. In Europe (and Russia,
which follows similar tradition), the University programs were simply
an evolution of the old apprenticeship or trade school training, and
students are taught, and expected to master a wide array of technical
skills, as you say was required of you, and which you continue to
demonstrate in your jewelry. That training was, from the start,
intended to train people for a career as professional craftspeople
and artists.

In the U.S., however, the art school history is one originating in
the U.S. out of Victorian age thinking regarding fine arts. While
Universities taught professional skills in many fields, in the arts,
often the art school classes were more of an upper class dilletant
pursuit, followed by those with enough money they didn’t expect to
have to make a living with it. The result was less emphasis on
technique, and more emphasis on “ivory tower” thinking, aesthetic
theory, design debates, and all the other aspects of what artists
who might expect to sit around in their salons over tea discussing
their work with fellow artists, collectors, and critics.

Yes, I know, I’m greatly overstating, but simply put, the European
schools from the start, expected students to be training for a
career. The U.S programs never tried to do that. And in metals, in
particular, the history is even more unique. For the most part, there
were very few metals programs at all, anywhere in the U.S. Most of
them focused on silversmithing or pewter smithing or similar crafts,
largely coming from the arts and crafts movement at that time, NOT
jewelry work to any great degree. While the silversmiths did do
jewelry, from a technial standpoint, they were pretty much self
taught. There was virtually no academic or trade school training in
the U.S. in actual goldsmithing outside of “learn as you go” on the
job training very similar to how an old school apprentice learned.

After world war 2, a large number of returning soldiers took
advantage of the GI bill to go to school. Some of them wanted to go
to art school. So there was interest in starting metals programs. But
here in the U.S., there were few people able to teach it. Again, the
schools looked to the silversmithing realm, and imported european
silversmiths to teach metals here. The School for American Craftsmen
in Rochester held workshops and seminars for folks who’d go on to
teach around the country, and again, that training was in
silversmithing, mostly from one Danish silversmith who’s name I could
have told you five minutes ago, but has slipped my mind just now.
Figures. But from those few people (maybe a dozen), the university
programs in Metals got their start. Those people had students, many
of whom themselves went on to teach, and it’s snowballed. Many of
the younger current teachers don’t know the history of their own
craft here in the U.S., but that origin in the traditions of
silversmithing explains in large part, why skills and training in
goldsmithing in these programs, has always been lacking. Contrast
this with the skills shown by students of a number of significant
schools in the areas of hollow ware. Many of those students, on
earning their MFA’s in metals, when they worked in silver or pewter
Hollow ware, could hold their own quite well with anyone in the
world, and some of the more original techniques now common,
originated here in the U.S. One glaring example is found in the term
“anticlastic raising”. There are lots of nice young jewelers making
pretty neat jewelery using this term, who don’t actually know who
Heikii Seppa was, or seen his book, nor who know his original use of
the term referred to hollow ware scale work, not jewelry. Until
Michael Good in particular got hold of the methods and moved them
down in scale to exquisite jewelry work, it was a silversmiths
method.

Or consider techniques like Mokume-Gan. While known, sort of, in
Europe, it was rarely taught or used much. Here in the U.S., largely
spearheaded and taught by the Pijianowski’s at the University of
Michigan, who’s research into rediscovering lost (to the west)
japanese methods resulted in the technique being spread widely to
many U.S. schools. Most college juniors have done at least some work
with it. By now, it’s crossed the ocean again back to Europe, but
the main thrust of the rediscovery and popularization was right here,
in the U.S. university art school programs. Of course, familiarity is
one thing. Real skill is another. In general, those folks who really
have mastered the method, like Jim Binnion and a few others, it’s
taken them decades of work, experimentation, and research, to really
master it. In the trade, recognition of what it is even, isn’t
common, and any idea of how it’s actually done, is rarer still.
Where I work, my boss(s) and a few others will recognize it and know
the name, as well as where to find work made that way that they can
sell. But I think I’m the only one in the whole shop with any real
idea of how it’s actually done. And I didn’t get that from trade
experience.

And the spirit of innovation and emphasis on unique and creative
personal work in metals, while perhaps at the expense of technical
expertise, has not been without rewards. Students taught first to
think creatively, rather than learning to make certain things in
exactly the right way, sometimes come up with really new ideas.
Consider the work of Charles Lewton-Brain. I doubt, had he done all
his studies in, say, Germany, that he’d have been so encouraged to
explore some interesting ideas he had about a new way to shape metal.
We now call that fold forming. Originated right here (well, and in
Calgary where he now teaches). Good old North American innovation and
creative thinking from an exceptionally creative man.

Or consider an experience I had back in '78 while studying for a
time at Cranbrook. The whole class went to London to see metals and
jewelry done there. In one instance, at the Royal College of art, we
found students doing lots of design, with studio technicians
available to help, assist, and even (mostly for the grad students, I
think) do the work if students had a hard time of it. One of these
techs was busy explaining to us how he’d been working to make a
silver tray, and was expounding on how such a shallow form with a
large flat bottom, was one of the most difficult forms to make via
traditional hammering over stakes. We all kind of looked at each
other in amusement. You see, at Cranbrook in the 60s, Richard Thomas
(one of the finest liturgical silversmiths I’ve ever known, in
addition to being the long time teacher at Cranbrook, and who was,
by the way, almost entirely self taught) and his students had
developed a method they called “masonite die” forming. A silver sheet
was clamped between rigid layers of masonite, maybe with a metal lip
for a sharp edge if needed, which had a desired cutout in the dies.
With the dies holding the edge level and flat, the interior could
simply be sunk down with little trouble. Nothing warped, and a flat
bottom was simple to make. While we all know of the traditional
method, and probably could have done it, none of us would have
bothered to do it that way since we knew a much better and faster
way. When we explained this method to that tech, he wouldn’t hear of
it. No rocking of the traditional boat for him, even if our method
could do some things a hammer and stake could not, and do it in half
the time for the things the stake could do, while giving an equal or
better result. Again, the obvious contrast between the high technical
skill but adherence to tradition in the European school, versus
perhaps the less technical skill but greater innovation and perhaps,
creativity, from the U.S. school, was obvious.

Damn. Just looked at the clock. Time to stop my damn rambling
(something else I didn’t learn in the trade. Thanks Mom) and get to
bed. G’night all.

Peter

Titles are not important when it comes to jewellery, if you can make
it, or design it, that’s all that really matters, unless the person
"needs" an ego boost.

A guild may have a master title, this will be recognised and valued
by that guild, however the recognition may not have value outside of
that association.

If people want to call themselves a “Master Gold Smith”, good luck
to them, no skin off my nose :wink: My respect isn’t granted by an
unknown title, if they can show me what they can make, this earns my
respect.

Regards Charles A.

First I'll say that I've enjoyed Peter's recent writings, and have
no argument with them. 

Thanks.

But it does go back to the OP who said that an MFA, and some other
things, is a "Master Goldsmith". Despite what Peter has said- maybe
as an aside to what Peter has said - the term is defined by the
industry, already. 

more like the aside than a despite… To clarify and agree with
John, a person who’s earned an MFA degree can say exactly that, ie
that they hold an MFA degree in whatever medium it was awarded in.
They may also wish to use the MFA designation after their names in
written documents where the presence of that degree is somehow
relevant. But to call themselves “Master Goldsmith”, Master Jeweler",
or anything similar, is indeed incorrect, not certified by the MFA,
and may be deceptive unless that person can also meet the industry
standards to use that title. In the case of the U.S. industry, it
generally means someone who has passed, or at least has demonstrated
skills such that they could pass, the JA tests for that highest
level.

...I've known people who I would call the title, but it would never
occur to me to use it about myself. I have to wonder why anyone
would want to...... 

I know what you mean. Few artists I know routinely use any sort of
degree designation in ordinary context. Business cards, resumes, and
other such more formal instances make sense for some people. And
that’s for the folks holding MFA degrees or with the formal
certification from the J.A. programs. Even they usually don’t find it
necessary to make a big point of it in ordinary communication, since
their work makes their skill level plain enough for anyone to see.

I have, though, known a few goldsmiths who did make a point of
calling themselves Master Goldsmiths as a title itself.
Interestingly, none of these folks had either an MFA or a JA
certification (or met the European standards for a similar title),
but had enough skills, in their own opinion, that they felt they
could use that title. And in only one of those cases, would I agree
with that self appraisal… Ego is an interesting thing. People who
really know what they are doing, are usually secure enough in their
confidence and reputation that they don’t feel the need to build
themselves up. Those less sure, sometimes for good reason, may need
the support a title, deserved or not, can offer.

And I’d like to offer another view of “mastery” of a craft or art
form. Almost all the arts and crafts, including jewelry and metals,
are very large bodies of and skills. No one person can
fully master all of the aspects of a given field. One of the
hallmarks of true mastery of a field is not so much whether that
person knows it all, or can do the best work of a kind. Rather, it
may also be defined as knowing what they do very well, what they
don’t do as well, and what they don’t do at all. Knowing your
limitations is as important, maybe more so, than knowing your skills.
Knowing what you don’t do well shows you where you need practice if
you wish to improve, or which types of tasks and designs you might,
at least for the moment, be well advised to steer clear of. If you
wish to use a technique you don’t know, in your work, there’s no
shame, and perhaps much wisdom, in knowing when to give one of your
fellow craftspeople who’s better skilled in that technique, the job
to do that part for you. Fine stone setting is one such skill where
many general jewelers, even if they can do decent stone setting, may
job out the setting work simply because someone else can do it
better. Knowing when NOT to do a thing because you don’t do it well
enough, is also very much a requirement if one is to really claim to
be a master of the field.

Peter

Peter: I was the original poser of this question, and at my age I no
longerhave enough years to become a master at silversmithing.
Regardless, I treasure the work of gifted jewelers.

From you and other Orchid contributors, I agree one key is time
spent at the bench. I also feel art training is helpful, although
many smiths are successfully self-taught or mentored.  

One additional thing I believe is that a master in our field
possesses two other traits: they are able to innovate and they have
genius in them.

I was a design reporter for a number of years and had the pleasure
of speaking to some of the world’s best in the fields of
architecture, ceramics, interior design and industrial design. They
were wonderful folks who enjoyed sharing their ideas and they helped
me to form my own goals and objectives as a silversmith. But skill
is skill, and dedication to a life’s work is vital. From my
perspective, masters really earn this title from their peers (or
fans) – and thank goodness they are available to inspire us to
exceed our own puny talents. They make life fun for the rest of us.

By the way, I noticed the expression “can of worms” is easily
abbreviated as “c.o.w.”

Betsy Kahn Lehndorff