As a person who has bought almost every book in existence on the
art of jewelry design, I am considering putting up a website
featuring used jewelry books. Does anyone know if such a site
exists? Is this an idea that would be of interest to other jewelry
makers?
Kristie
Kristie - I would be very appreciative if you would fax or e-mail
a list of your books. I collect them too. As opposed to London
metalsmiths who have access to one of the greatest trade librarys
in the world, we have to hunt out our own resources. Thanks. Kim
Eric Lilot, e-mail: eligiu@slip.net fax: 1.415.771.2675
Kristie, If you’re not trying to sell them (in which case you know
where to go) I think putting up a page with descriptions, ISDN
numbers and reviews is a great idea. I’ll help. I have more quilt
books than jewelry books (I had more money when I was 'into’
quilting) but I’m sure that among this motly crew we’ll probably
find a baker’s dozen of books. --kathi parker MoonScape Designs
Dear KLeong:
I too have amassed a large selection of books in the few years
that I have been making jewelry, but unlike you I like to hold on
to mine…for inspiration and knowledge…and am always ready to
pick up and buy a new and recent or old and tattered jewelry
book…running the gamut from design, manufacture, costume,
vintage, expensive, cheap, educational…etc, etc. So, if you are
genuinely interested in starting up with a Website dedicated to
only Jewelry related books…I would probably come and see what you
might have to offer an old book collector like me. I hope that you
get this baby off the ground in the near future…
Sincerely:
Bryna Tracy
smartdog1@msn.com
Metalogic by Bryna Tracy
http://come.to/Metalogic
One of A Kind Jewellery and Design
Toronto.Canada
Kristie and Kathi, I too am a compulsive around books, everything
I have ever been interested in. I have some I loved so much I
bought two. Perhaps we can arrange a sale, swap, trade. Teresa
Hi Kristi, Please do it. I am also a jewelry book junkie. I have
learned many tricks from old books. Good luck Tom Arnold
Dear Christie and Kathie and Teresa, et al., although I’m a long way
from the U.S. action, I too have amassed quite a collection of
jewellery, heraldry and engraving books over the past forty-odd
years. Some of these are over a hundred years old, inherited from
Dad, Uncle and Grandpoppa. What a resource we must have. How can we
share it? Regards, Rex from Oz.
Wouldn’t it be nice if these books, specially the old, out of
print ones, could be scaned into an electronic format & put in a
cyber library? Don’t know what the legalities of this are.
I believe a number of libraries & museums around the world are
doing this with art work & such. GIA is doing it with some of their
material. They’r e also creating CDs of some of the stuff, but
their prices tend to be a little on the high side.
If those of us with scanners each scanned in 1 or 2 books (items)
the project could get done in short order. Just an idea.
Dave
What a resource we must have. How can we share it?
Book lovers unite. I am sure some will prefer we find another site
to post to. Let us ask for patience first until we find one
another, and then perhaps a kindly soul such as Carol Bova will
open a site for us to congregate on.
Until then perhaps we can each catalogue our own and then compare.
I know I am much to much a late comer to match some, but each time
there is a book table at a club show, I buy, also at times I check
out Thrift stores. I certainly have some duplicates. Oppi Unteracht
(sp) Metal Crafts is one and that is close to a $100. book and a
treasure of I must say.
Comments?
Teresa
Dear David Arens, good idea about scanning our books then
downloading to a specific website or save onto a CD ROM. Perhaps
the older rarer books are no longer subject to copyright? Perhaps
something similar to what the National Geographic have done with
their CD ROM collection could be done with our older, copyright
exempt, books. Regards, Rex from Oz
Regarding Scanning to a CD.
Excellent idea, but please make it cross platform Mac/Pc. I have
been so far unable to convince the L.A. Museum to do so with its
beautiful CD on Minerals. Makes no sense as the Mac has always been
the platform of choice for any form of graphic display. Teresa
Wouldn't it be nice if these books, specially the old, out of print ones, could be scaned into an electronic format & put in a cyber library? Don't know what the legalities of this are.
Dave, I think we need a master list saved into a data base format
open to both Mac and PC operating systems. With this perhaps a
blank template that list members can enter their own books.
We then can create a “want” and “want to sell” or “want to trade”
portion.
I am not sure about copying as the copyright laws must be
respected.
I leave this open to further comment and am saving all responses.
Teresa
One of the most comprehensive list on European jewelry books and
catalogs is from Charon Kransen in NYC, tel. 212-627-5073.
Agee
374 Taylor Road
Stow MA 01775-1615
tel: (978) 897-4188
fax: (978) 897-0090
email: @agee
I think we need a master list saved into a data base format open to both Mac and PC operating systems. With this perhaps a blank template that list members can enter their own books.
Sounds like a plan (at least the beginnings of one) would you be
the coordinator for this effort (PLEASE!)?, I suppose a set of
scanning specifications needs to be established or the
consolidation from many different scanners would be utter chaos.
How about it you computer/scanning gurus, we could use a little
advice & guidance.
Dave
Dear Teresa Masters,
You are so right about the cross platform bit. It’s so easy to
produce CD ROMs which play on both Mac and PC these days. I liked
the little stir about the “platform of choice” too. I certainly
would have bought a Mac if I could have afforded it. As it was, I
bought a PC for half the money but with all the goodies to give me
the results that I wanted.
(Sigh) Now if only they had developed the potential of the
Amiga…
But seriously folks, I’m sure there’s a way to create our Virtual
Library. Regards, Rex from Oz
Rex, David et al… Here is my idea. First we need a web site. I do
not have one yet, but it is available to me (5mg) via my Cable Co.
(for what they charge it is the least they can do).
Create an online template in a cross platform program, perhaps
File Maker Pro, make it so that one can …fill in the blanks and
submit it. Hopefully it will go into a data base (relational) and
can then be sorted in many ways.
Persons wishing to participate can upload their library list.
There then can be separate sections for Lend (a la libraries), Vend
and Swap/Trade.
I have been trying to shelve some I purchased lately. There are
some very old ones there. I definitely have duplicates.
Last week at the Costa Mesa there were books from an Estate. I
bought several.
Let me know what you all think, and yes I can sort of coordinate
it, but I am not a programmer and am not even sure what relational
data base is although I have heard the term for many years.
Rex my first computer from 1980 until 1991 was the Tesas
Instruments 99/4A. I drove to Lubbock Texas Feb 14 to attend a
reunion in the very TI building where they built it. I know what
you mean about Amiga, some here are still using it. Teresa
Theresa, Sounds like a great idea, so are you going to coordinate
it? FileMaker Pro is an excellent choice. It is the easiest to
program, you could figure it out in less than a week. It’s object
oriented so you don’t have to learn a new language to make it work,
and I believe it’s about 200.00 for a competitive upgrade. As far as
people sending in there lists, they could send them using whatever
spreadsheet program they have and you could import them into
FileMaker Pro. Perhaps you could leave a generic template on the
web site that would indicate what kind of data you want and in
which order it should go. If I can be of any help, just ask!
Eddie
Ed Colbeth Metalsmith, Motorcyclist
Taunton, Massachusetts (Soon to be Deer Isle, Maine)
508-823-9704
93 K1100RS "Wanderer III"
ICQ# 6247734
Wouldn’t it be nice if these books, specially the old, out of
print ones, could be scaned into an electronic format & put in a
cyber library? Don’t know what the legalities of this are.
I believe a number of libraries & museums around the world are
doing this with art work & such. GIA is doing it with some of their
material. They’r e also creating CDs of some of the stuff, but
their prices tend to be a little on the high side.
If those of us with scanners each scanned in 1 or 2 books (items)
the project could get done in short order. Just an idea.
Please don’t do this, as this violates copyright laws – including
those titles which are out-of-print. A variety of publishers, and
even libraries (how ironic) are creating digests and compilations
on CD-ROM for profit, only to be sued when they are caught, and
justifiably so. Only those titles in the public domain, and in
which copyright has expired are allowed to be legally reproduced
in a variety of mediums.
There are a variety of antiquarian booksellers online. Why not
check their databases, when searching for a particular OP title.
Here are two: http://www.interloc.com and http://www.powells.com
– Also, Amazon books will do a free search for OPs and obscure
titles. Authors are cheated everyday (and have an even harder
time than jewelers! when fair compensation for work is at
stake!). We all know what its like to deal with unfair
business pracises in our work – let’s not do the same to other
“artists” in the field.
Mona
Hi Dave, as an author, that would be big-time illegal and make one,
and the web site liable for damages among other things. If on the
other hand it is 50 years after the death of the author then it is
possible to do this. Check out ‘Project Gutenberg’ on the net,
thousands of books have been entered and are available on the net
to read and print out. Charles
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Box 1624, Ste M, Calgary, Alberta, T2P 2L7, Canada
Tel: 403-263-3955 Fax: 403-283-9053 Email: @Charles_Lewton-Brain
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