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Fusing Fine silver bezel to fine silver pendant

I want to include gems in settings on my enamel cloisonne pieces- fine silver bezels on fine silver backing. Problem is- how to attach the bezel. I fire the enamels at up to 1480F. Regular easy to hard solder won’t stand up to that (that is my understanding.) I’ve used eutectic solder for jump rings and ear wires and that seems to hold up in the kiln. Anyone have any other suggestions and is it possible to fuse the bezel to the pendant- that would be the cleanest? If so - has anyone one had success in doing so?

Use tightly fitted bezels and use a minimum amount of hard solder, or better yet, I.T. solder if you can find it. When soldering, keep the heat there a bit to keep the solder melted a bit longer. The solder will slightly dissipate into the silver just enough to reduce the degree to which it will repeat. Even if it tries to melt while firing the enamel, you should find the bezels staying put, since likely, not all of that solder will still melt. If you used I.T. solder, its likely that it won’t melt a second time.

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Hi Peter, regular solder reacts with the enamels, it won’t work in this application- and that is why I use eutectic silver solder that contains no zinc to attach ear wires before enameling- not easy to work with but does the job. I can try a bit of the eutectic to solder the bezels in place- I will give it a try.

I am far from an expert so I’m sure others have thoughts.

In my experience either fusing (fine gold/silver) or using IT solder should solve your challenge.

I think IT solder is not alloyed like others it is very close to mother metal in terms of purity I don’t think it contains zinc but I’m not 100%.

I’m sure someone out there has a recipe for a zincless IT solder?

Halsted claims " The flow temperature of this solder is 1490F. IT Silver Solder contains silver (80%), copper (18%) and zinc (2%)" Seems like a minimal amount of zinc.
This is 10 degrees higher than you are using in the kiln. I have not had a problem with IT even with opalescent and transparent. Not sure of the composition of my IT solder had it for 20+ years.

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Peter, I have seen a few references to I. T. solder. I have researched to find out what is meant. What is I. T. solder, why should it be preferred over others? Where is it available?

From Beth Katz in 2008:

It is not common practice to
use this Intense Temperature as a name for the 80% silver formula for
the solder as “IT” is much easier and faster. The periods after both
letters have been dropped in common usage. The solder itself is
composed of 80% silver and other part (20%) of the formula is made of
other ingredients".

Please note that the “other part” of the solder does contain zinc,
which is why this formula (IT) should not be used when the intent of
your project is to use vitreous enamel over that particular spot to
which IT solder has been flowed. The zinc does not allow the enamel
to adhere properly; there is a chemical reaction which makes the
enamel bubble, chip or flake. This reaction may not happen in the
immediate time frame, but will more than likely happen in the future,
so it is prudent not to use IT for that particular application. IT
solder, can however, be used safely for the attachments of findings
before enameling is to take place and where enamel application will
not directly be touched by the enamel. IT solder melts at 1345 F and
flows at 1490 F.

When enameling over any join that you wish to hide, please elect to
use the Eutectic formula which contains only silver and copper as the
metals. The Eutectic melts and flows at 1435 F.

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For silver solder there is It (Intense temperature), melting point 1490 degrees F., Hard, 1425 degrees F., Medium, 1390 degrees F., Easy, 1325 degrees F., and Easy-flo, 1270 degrees F.
There is also Eutectic solder that does not have a problem with vitreous enamel and melts at 1435 degrees F.
I will modify Peter’s suggestion of using IT solder and try Eutectic Solder for my pieces and then keep the enamel firings on the low end of temperature. I will also try isolating sterling designs and bezels on fine silver sheets that are fused to the main body of the piece- I think both of these techniques will allow me to add soldered elements to my pieces without running into problems with the enamel.