Finding a recipe for Surmai

Gerald_Livings1 2016-01-04 02:22:44 UTC #1

The Victoria and Albert Museum posted the following short video of a setting technique I have never seen done before. I want to learn it! http://www.ganoksin.com/gnkurl/ep824c

The first line is about the material used and I can make it but I am having a hard time finding the correct mixture. How much of each ingredient should I use for the best quality?

This is the first line. "The interior of the jewel is first filled with a mixture of shellac and antimony, known as surmai." .

When I search for Surmai, I get lots of pages about fish. I am pretty sure that would not hold gems very well and the smell would not be a selling point.

So any help would be welcome.

Thanks! Jerry

Gerald A. Livings
Livingston Jewelers

Elliot_Nesterman 2016-01-05 02:06:46 UTC #2

The Victoria and Albert Museum posted the following short video of
a setting technique I have never seen done before. I want to learn
it! http://www.ganoksin.com/gnkurl/ep824c

Keep in mind that the stones must be foil backed to be set in this fashion, so that the shellac mixture does not touch the back of the stone directly. So you'll need a foil recipe and the directions for adhering the foil.

Recipes for colored foils for different stones can be found in Cellini, but I don't know how the Mughal jewelers stuck the foil to their stones.

Elliot Nesterman

Barbara_Ettles 2016-01-05 02:06:52 UTC #3

Gerald - did you find this link?
http://www.ganoksin.com/gnkurl/ep824d

jhaemer52 2016-01-06 03:44:44 UTC #4

Great link. However the article states that the enamel work is applied after the wax and stones. I'm guessing that the enamel would happen first as the temps. required to fire enamel would melt the inlay material and ruin stones.

Jo Haemer
timothywgreen.com

Karenlechner 2016-01-06 03:44:46 UTC #5

I believe one article described each gem cell as completely sealed from theair. I don't think the foil is adhered to the stone, as is the case withrhinestones. A stone smaller than the "cell" is places on a layer offoil that has been set on the bottom of this cell. The back of the stone is flat. The stone is set with 24K gold foil bits and once they are compacted against the wall surrounding the gem, the foil has been welded in place mechanically and the setting is air proofed. Cheers, Karen