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Denatured alcohol


#1

Hi I need some on denatured alcohol! I have been buying
mind at the local drug store, and it’s getting rather expensive. Is
this denatured alcohol the same at the hardware store?

THANKS
JIM


#2

i get mine at the paint store—cheap, and just as good as the fancy
stuff at the drugstore. Alma


#3

Jim,

The difference is that denaturated alcohol is changed in someway in
order to make it not drinkable.Alcohol by itself is finally not
expensive.Thatswhy the gouverment try’s to controle the whole
industry.I have some benefits here in Germany due to my profesion and
I pay 4 dollars for 5 liters of pure alcohol.The point is … I
don’t need it and I’m not allowed to ship any like this. That’s
howmuch I know about this alcohol,but I’m shure that other orchidians
have a better explanation then the one I have here from Europe.for
what’s worth it.

Regards Pedro
Palonso@t-online.de


#4

Denatured alcohol is plain old ethyl alcohol. It’s often sold as
"shellac solvent" and also as “stove fuel” as it is sometimes used in
portable camp stoves and in “fondue” pot heaters. It’s the same as
very high-proof vodka, except they add something to it that will make
you very ill if you drink it. Sniff test a few different brands,
though. Most of them have a pretty annoying odor to them, although
they will work. I get mine from a art supply store, where I pay more
for it, but they have a brand that has no odor at all other than the
very faint odor of alcohol. I have also found it in the paint
department of the local “big-box” chains, like Meijer’s and Wal Marts
and there’s where it’s the cheapest, although sometimes all they have
is the stinkier varieties.


#5

Probably not, Jim. There are many kinds of denatured alcohol,
which started out as ethyl alcohol (ethanol) and then had a
denaturing agent added in order to make it unfit for human
consumption. There are a number of different denaturing agents;
which is used depends on its intended use.

Margaret

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#6

Jim, I bought some denatured alcohol a while back from the
hardware store, and the stuff had such an obnoxious, sweet odor
it made me nauseous. So if you can ‘smell before you buy’, I
would! I get mine by the gal. at the pharmacy. But thinking of
switching to grain alcohol, more expensive, but less harmful
effects. Some jewelers become allergic after years of use.
Oh-dear! Thomas

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#7

Hi Jim,

Don’t know what you’re getting at the drug store, but the gallon
I just bought at the neghborhood ACE was $8.79. It’s ingredients
aRe: ethanol, methanol, methyl isobutyl ketone, ethyl acetate &
water. It’s basic use is as a fuel, shellac solvent, antifreeze,
& anti moisture additive for gasoline.

Denatured alcohol is ‘denatred’ to prevent folks from drinking
it & beating the government out of the tax imposed on the
drinking variety. Last time I looked, 180 proof drinking alcohol
was about $60/gal.

Dave

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#8
   The difference is that denaturated alcohol is changed in
>someway  in order to make it not drinkable.Alcohol by itself
is >finally not expensive. 

Alcoholic beverage was one of the few taxable-revenue generating
items, another being salt, that pre-industrial governments could
rely on. Yet it had too many useful properties for the tax to be
applied for non beverage use. Therefore wood alcohol was added
to “denature” it and make it undrinkable. The results were
dramatic enough - blindness, mental retardation and even death -
that only the very desperate or ignorant would try drinking
denatured alcohol.

Grain alcohol is mainly ethyl alcohol that the body can oxidize
into acetaldehyde (to give the buzz), then into acetic acid then
to the final metabolites carbon dioxide and water.

Wood alcohol contains methyl alcohol and an evil mix of other
organic solvents. The oxidative pathway for ethyl alcohol in a
test tube is formaldehyde, formic acid and finally carbon
dioxide and water. It follows the same pathway in our body but
as soon as it is oxidized into formaldehyde this compound is
lethal to living cells. Damage to the retina (blindness) is the
most obvious symptom. There is damage to other cells too
although cells of most organs may be able to regenerate to
repair the damage to that organ. Where nerve cells are damaged
the damage is permanent. Depending on which nerves cells are
destroyed the drinker will forever suffer the consequences. And
of course if enough formaldehyde had been converted from methyl
alcohol by the body you get one well preserved stiff.

Kelvin Mok @Kelvin_Mok1

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#9

Just thought that I should warn you that some of the denaturing
agents can be quite toxic. For instance, the Methanol mentioned
about can make you BLIND. And – you can absorb it through your
skin
, so you shouldn’t go sticking your hands into it, or
anything like that.

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