Competition thoughts

    All you need to do know is sell this idea to the Discovery
Channel - "Southeast Metal Benders" vrs the "Cold Canadian
Connectors" - couldn't be any less interesting than say Choppers or
Monster Garage could it? 

More like The Great Biker Buildoff, only better. And coming from me,
that’s saying a lot! For something like this I’d do something I
never would, otherwise - buy a pay-per-view!

James in SoFl

How about making this project a part of the annual auction. It
could be called “The Box Project”.

The donors would be individuals or dealers, each compiling a package
of materials, enough to complete a project with no specific end
product in mind.

The parameters would be that the items would all be packaged in a
sealed, uniform sized box, possibly labeled as to appropriate skill
level needed to use the materials within.

The boxes would be available to purchase as auction items, or at a
fixed price.

Purchasers would take the boxes home and make their item, then
donate the finished product to the auction the following year for
display and purchase.

Boxes of materials would be solicited each year, making this an
annual (and I think popular) ongoing and creative fundraiser.

Karen Olsen Ramsey

I like the title of “Junk Drawer Wars”! Lets keep this idea going.
It might have a future.

Chuck. “portray a specific concept”. Sounds kinky to me. You can be
in trouble now.

Bill Churlik
@Bill_Churlik
www.earthspeakarts.com

I have a friend who has done some writing for the Discovery Channel,
and I asked him who to contact about our “Iron Jeweler” project. He
contacted the production company he worked for, and received the
following reply, outlining the way we should contact the Discovery
Channel. (I think someone who has some real-world credibility ought
to

be the one to pitch this project- just my opinion.)

Janet Kofoed

From Warren Weidner of Grinning Dog Pictures:

  While my contacts at DCI [Discovery Communications, Inc.] are
  rusty--I would simply suggest your friends call the DCI
  offices in Bethesda, MD. and ask for the name of and extension
  for the V.P. of Programming Production and Development--and
  possibly even an e-mail address [if they'd prefer to contact
  them that way].  Then...what will  [inevitably] happen is the
  DCI V.P. (or their secretary--secretaries are usually the best
  ones to "pump" for this type of info--will suggest  they go
  through the "standard procedure for submitting a program or
  programming concept"--whatever that is these days! And a "kit"
  will then be sent to your friends which details the format to
  which their submission must conform, the neccessary elements
  their pitch must contain, the number of pages it must be, etc.,
  along with the address and contact where it mus t be sent. 
  This is virtually the only way  DCI will accept submissions!
  Now...they can ask the secretary when the next "review and
  selection period" is--when DCI programming execs review and
  consider any new submissions for air on their networks. This
  info--if you can sweet-talk the "gatekeeper/secretary into
  divulging it--will tell you when the best time(s) is/(are) to
  get your  concept in to the networks. 

  Another thing they may want to consider ahead of time is to
  which DCI cable network their pitch is best-targetted (The
  Discovery Channel, The  Learning Channel, Animal Planet,
  Discovery Kids, and any other new ones  they now have which I
  don't know...).  A visit to www.discovery.com might be a good
  place to start--as it will at least give them an overview of
  the many varied channels/networks that fall under the Discovery
  banner--along wi th a brief description (I think) of the
  programming & content focus for each one. 

  The point here is, I guess, that if they're serious about
  going through  these motions they ought to do a considerable
  amount of homework first,  so they have a pretty good idea at
  the start of where they want to begin their attack. Believe
  me...this is the exact same process I go  through each time. 
  No matter how many quality shows with record-breaking ratings
  I've made for them, they always make me jump through the same
  damned hoops over again each time.  For awhile, at least, we'd
  gotten to know the V.P. of Program Production and
  Development--so we could at least "get-in" with a phone call.
  But--that person left awhile back--and went to HG-TV to
  develop their "how-to" line-up of shows--so I have no idea who
  replaced her.

This morning my friend’s contact at Grinning Dog Pictures sent me
this addendum to his e-mail from yesterday, a rather discouraging
note.

Janet Kofoed

  After writing up and sending the previous info for your friends
  I realised one very crucial distinction that I thought may not
  be readily apparent from what I sent you--anyone can submit an
  idea to DCI, but noone EVER receives any payment for it. Ideas
  are a dime a dozen--maybe even a nickle a dozen by now, with
  inflation. And if your friends intend (or hope) to make
  anything for their idea--well, forget it! There are many
  reasons why--but the primary one is no matter how unique, or
  how utterly original, special or valuable you believe your
  idea to be, there are always at least two or three proposals
  submitted that are identical to yours[usually submitted at the
  exact same time, too, oddly enough]. I've seen it happen over
  and over again. And it happens to me, too, when I send-in
  ideas. They'll say, "Nice pitch. We've got a show just like it
  already in production. And--they're not kidding ! When I was
  Executive Series Producer for one of their Global World
  Premiere Science Series I saw an average of three or four
  identical pitches come across my desk for every one that was
  unique--and almost all of those submitted were concepts I had
  already had in-the-works, myself, in the research and write-up
  phase. What sets one pitch apart from another--even if they
  are on the same topic--is the "treatment" of the topic...the
  proposed look and feel of it...how it will play-out on-screen,
  including its visual and audio production style. These are
  what DCI looks for--not just a proposed program or series
  topic! This point is extremely important!

Dear Janet

Nice job on the contact procedure for Discovery Channel: I hope
somebody wil take it up. And BTW and as Discovery Channel is rather
an international Channel, why not try to suggest that the competition
be held simultaneously in a number of countries; - I could think of a
few Danes who would consider participating.

Niels Lovschal

from snowy, winterly Bornholm, Denmark, where the snow is pouring
down and blown into huge drifts and the local authorities stop
fighting the snow at 18.00 hours (Wonder if I can get out tomorrow)