Bezel setting faceted stones

You can read print through some stones more easily than others, no
matter how well its angles have been cut. 

Hi James,

Thank you so much for sharing more info on this. Your sentence above
has me a bit confused. I was told the window effect is occuring
because the facets were not cut at the correct angle. Sounds like you
are saying a stone can window even with the facets cut correctly. Am
I misunderstanding you? Is this not something I should check for as a
sign of a well cut stone, along with proportion and polish?

It does make sense to me that ovals and pears might window more as
the pavillion area is more broad on these stones, and the pavillion
facet angles are not as acute as they would be on a round stone. But
I am obviously no facetor and this is just a theory. I have awe and
respect for those of you who facet.

I have come across many stones that have this problem in varying
degrees, though I did not have the terminology to describe it until
now. I just knew that something was not right. And though I know my
gem purchasing will improve, I will surely have to try to make the
most of some stones that are leaking light. How do I make the most of
them? Very frustrating to have a stone so lovely in every other way
that is showing a window.

My book also talks about extinction in a stone. I am finding this
harder to see as there seem to be dark places in the facets in most
stones as you move them around in the light. Maybe I just need to
view a stone in person that has this strongly and then I’ll get it.

Thanks for all comments on this-
Carrie Nunes
www.metalpetalsworkshop.com

    You can read print through some stones more easily than
others, no matter how well its angles have been cut. 
    Thank you so much for sharing more info on this. Your sentence
above has me a bit confused. I was told the window effect is
occuring because the facets were not cut at the correct angle.
Sounds like you are saying a stone can window even with the facets
cut correctly. Am I misunderstanding you? Is this not something I
should check for as a sign of a well cut stone, along with
proportion and polish? 

Hi Carrie. Yes, you definitely misunderstood me. If you’ll re-read my
post, you’ll see that I was talking about the “see-through effect,”
not windowing. “See-through” is observed by placing the stone, table
down, on print. Windowing and extinction are both seen face-up, and
reading print through the stone has nothing to do with it. Instead of
my saying “Look for the chapter on the “see-through” effect,” I
should have just explained it, and I will. But you’ll also see later
in this post that even with correctly angled facets, windowing and
extinction do still occur to some degree.

First: See-through. See-through is a practice used by gemologists to
lend a clue mostly (but not exclusively) to separate diamond from
its simulants. If you have a round brilliant cut diamond and similar
CZ, place them, table down, side by side on some printed material.
With diamond, you won’t be able to read the print. With CZ, you will
be able to see the print through it slightly. GGG has moderate
see-through, and YAG has strong see-through - you can read just
about anything through it. This has to do more with the material’s
refractive index (RI) and the way it bends light than it does with
how well it is faceted. Of the four gems I mentioned (diamond, CZ,
YAG and GGG), diamond’s RI is highest, GGG’s is lowest. Try some
other gem materials and see how easy or difficult it is to read the
print through them. The lower the gem’s RI, the easier to
“see-through.”

    I have come across many stones that have this problem
(windowing) in varying degrees, though I did not have the
terminology to describe it until now. I just knew that something
was not right. 
    My book also talks about extinction in a stone. I am finding
this harder to see as there seem to be dark places in the facets in
most stones as you move them around in the light. Maybe I just need
to view a stone in person that has this strongly and then I'll get
it. 

Practically all faceted colored gemstones have at least a small
amount of windowing and extinction. The (very) light and dark places
you mentioned are just that; windowing and extinction. The balance
is referred to as light return. If a gem has 25% windowing and 25%
extinction, it follows that it has 50% light return. The percentage
of light return is used to judge the stone’s brilliance. Generally,
any gem with over 75% light return is said to have excellent
brilliance. Texts that address windowing and extinction without the
rest of the equation can be confusing. Photographic examples that
are usually given in textbooks for those phenomena are pretty much
always extreme. Notice I typed (very) light and dark above. Very
light means areas that are lighter than the bodycolor of the stone.
Very dark…well, you get the point. Theoretically it’s possible to
cut a gem of any material with 100% light return, and I’m fairly
certain that if you could, it would be a very uninteresting gem. In
reality though, it is impossible to do so. And thank goodness,
because without a certain amount of windowing and extinction, there
could be no scintillation.

When you hear or read that a stone is windowed, it really means that
there is an unacceptable amount of windowing in it, not that the
entire stone is a window. Ditto for extinction. That is, unless the
stone is cut into a cube. I reckon that’d be a fully windowed stone.

The fact is, windowing can lighten dark materials such as some
garnets, chrome diopside, some sapphires, etc. Without a certain
amount of windowing, these and many other gemstones are simply too
dark to be attractive as a faceted gem. Also, extinction is
manipulated by skilled lapidaries for materials with pale,
unsaturated colors such as some aquamarine, topaz, etc. To find
examples of windowing for your own curiosity, look for gems with
very shallow pavilions. For extinction, check for deeper pavilions.
Other proportions come into play too, as well as the material from
which the gem is cut. Extinction in gem cuts with an aspect ratio
(i.e. 10X6, and more so, a wider ratio like 10X3) such as oval,
marquise, etc., usually show the “bowtie effect.” You’ll recognize
it the moment you see it next. I’ll bet you’ve seen it before, but
just didn’t know what it was, or what to call it. Look for a really
long marquise or oval, you’ll likely see it.

Hope I didn’t confuse you further. If so, I’ll be happy to confuse
you even more :slight_smile:

James in SoFl

Thank you for taking the time to write such a great explanation
James! My book (GIA) did talk about cutters using windowing to
lighten a dark stone and extinction for a pale stone.

If you'll re-read my post, you'll see that I was talking about the
"see-through effect," not windowing. "See-through" is observed by
placing the stone, table down, on print. Windowing and extinction
are both seen face-up, and reading print through the stone has
nothing to do with it. 

When I started this conversation I was referring to being able to
“see through” my colored stone, seeing some of the metal and opening
of the setting underneath the stone. When I said this I was talking
about looking through the table to the culet. GIA does also use this
phrase “see through” in the same way: “When you look down at a gem
from above and see a gap in its bodycolor- an area of weaker color-
that’s a window. Windows are usually caused by light leaking from
the bottom of the stone. By creating a see-through effect, a window
can make a gem’s bodycolor uneven and ruin its apprearance. If a
gem’s bodycolor is very dark, however, a window can lighten it a
little and make the stone more appealing.”

When I checked for reading type, which Brian Adam suggested, it was
also this way with the table up which I see was incorrect. I will
flip them over and experiment with reading type through them upside
down. I am most concerned though about how the stones are viewed with
the table side up.

I can see it will take studying many stones to be able to judge what
is an acceptable amount of windowing. I am gaining a better
understanding of what it is I am seeing. But I still have to deal
with this issue when setting the stones that have varying degrees of
windowing and see-through. It seems even if the facets are distorting
what is underneath the stone, you are still glimpsing something under
there. Do you think bezel settings make this effect appear more
pronounced? The stone of mine that originally started my questions, I
honestly think looked better when there was a solid gold backing
behind it. I think the metal was compensating for the stone leaking
light, and the metal was bouncing some of the light back up through
the stone. When I cut an opening, I could see the lack of reflected
light that was the opening and the difference between it and the
remaining metal backing. When I enlarged the opening, it looked
better because there was no more contrast of opening and backing
metal, there was just opening. But the stone is darker. Still quite
pretty but there is less light reflected back. So in setting a stone
like this, I still don’t know that there is any best solution. I
guess the only solution is choosing a stone with less light leakage.
It just seems such a common problem with colored stones.

Thanks again for your time and for helping me wrap my brain around
these concepts.

Carrie Nunes
www.metalpetalsworkshop.com

    I can see it will take studying many stones to be able to
judge what is an acceptable amount of windowing. I am gaining a
better understanding of what it is I am seeing. But I still have to
deal with this issue when setting the stones that have varying
degrees of windowing and see-through. It seems even if the facets
are distorting what is underneath the stone, you are still
glimpsing something under there. Do you think bezel settings make
this effect appear more pronounced? 

Carrie, before responding to your question, I’d like to tell you for
the record that I received my G.G. from GIA at age 46, after
studying and appreciating gemstones for a large part of my life.
That being said, I would like to encourage you to keep noticing the
things you have been noticing, such as the reality of how gems
appear, as opposed to what the textbooks say. I mention this to you
basically because I have had long arguments in the past here about
this very subject, and the textbooks will disagree with what I am
about to type, and so do many people. And so, I plunge again…

What you will read in the book is that a gemstone cut as perfectly
as possible with regard to its’ critical angle (and other
proportions, as well) will have all light enter through the crown,
bounce around inside, reflecting and refracting many times before
every bit of that light exits back through the crown to the viewer’s
eye with no windowing, and no extinction. For purposes of
illustration, the texts use the wave theory of light, and eschew the
particle theory. For the same purposes, one narrow, BEAM of light is
illustrated. The reality is that we never (except under strict
controlled conditions) observe a gemstone under that condition.
Light hits it from practically every angle, in waves and in
particles, inside of 180 degrees relative to the crown (or girdle),
and from every direction. Some of that light will always enter at an
angle that will leak out of the pavilion. When it does, some will
also be reflected back.

This is particularly evident when there is a color around the
girdle. You’ll eventually learn about cases where diamonds have been
“colored” by marking around their girdles with simple colored
markers. The color reflects through the stone, imparting a false
bodycolor to the stone. In fact, natural green diamonds get their
bodycolor from a thin “skin” of green that is (with very few
exceptions) only on the surface. They are cut specifically to leave
a bit of that “skin” on the girdle (called a natural), which imparts
the green bodycolor by reflecting it throughout the stone. This
evidence alone proves beyond argument that bezel settings assuredly
can make this effect appear more pronounced. You mentioned that you
recognize the fact that it will take studying many stones to judge
what is an acceptable amount of windowing. I agree, and I challenge
you to have fun in doing so.

    The stone of mine that originally started my questions, I
honestly think looked better when there was a solid gold backing
behind it. I think the metal was compensating for the stone
leaking light, and the metal was bouncing some of the light back up
through the stone. When I cut an opening, I could see the lack of
reflected light that was the opening and the difference between it
and the remaining metal backing. When I enlarged the opening, it
looked better because there was no more contrast of opening and
backing metal, there was just opening. But the stone is darker.
Still quite pretty but there is less light reflected back. So in
setting a stone like this, I still don't know that there is any
best solution. I guess the only solution is choosing a stone with
less light leakage. It just seems such a common problem with
colored stones. 

Everything you typed above is valid, and open to discussion. But
what really matters is, you recognized what looked best. Much like
the lapidary who windowed the dark stone, you noticed that the solid
backing looked better. Please don’t feel as though there is not a
“best solution.” In the case of the stone you mention, it appears
you found it with the solid backing. In the future, you will select
stones that not only have better proportions, but better color, tone
and saturation, as well. As you look at more and more stones, you’ll
notice that some just look better - you even said as much here:

“I have come across many stones that have this problem (windowing)
in varying degrees, though I did not have the terminology to
describe it until now. I just knew that something was not right.”

Dear Carrie, please continue to SEE what you’re looking at. If it
“just doesn’t look right,” search for one that does look right. And
continue reading as you have been. By learning from textbooks,
you’ll learn the terminology of what you’re seeing, and what to look
for. But by handling and SEEING, you’ll make better purchases and
more beautiful jewelry. After all, jewelry is best seen (or worn),
not theorized about. And eventually, you’ll just KNOW what type of
setting will yield the best look for your chosen stone.

A tip: Get a pair of quality gem tweezers and hold every stone you
consider selecting with them. Look at the stone with overhead
lighting and a neutral background, such as a sheet of white paper.
In your other hand, take a pencil, pen, chopstick, solder pick,
etc., and move it back and forth behind the culet of the stone. Did
you see it moving behind the stone(windowing), or not? Next, note
the color and tone of the gem, then place it on your hand, face-up,
between two fingers. Let the culet rest in the crease formed between
your fingers. Did the color or tone (lightness or darkness) change?
The percentage of windowing matters less than how much the color and
tone of the stone changes when worn, if you see what I mean.

Don’t get me wrong, I value my GIA training and hold it in high
regard. In fact, I am more proud of it than any other academic
accomplishment, and I’d recommend it to anyone who wants to learn
ten or forty years worth of industry knowledge in a very short time.
But picking what looks good to you will never serve you badly. Some
of what I learned with GIA is simply BS. Theory is a great way to
lend understanding, but reality sometimes blows theory out of the
water.

James S. Duncan, G.G., A.J.P.
A.K.A. James in SoFl

Windowing is a fault; there is no acceptable amount of windowing.

A common fault with colored stones is that they are poorly cut. It
takes more care to cut a stone properly. It seems axiomatic that
stones are best cut by amateurs (in the original sense of that word)
because they take the time to do it properly. They are not
commercially motivated.

If you’re buying commercially it’s going to be a mixed bag.

Windowing is a fault; there is no acceptable amount of windowing. 

Hello Kevin,

No offense, but isn’t that a matter of personal taste? The jewellery
makers of old would be rather disappointed to hear that their stones,
cut without the enlightenment of modern methods and technology, were
“unacceptable”. There’s a lot of their work that I would be tickled
pink to own just as they are. And I promise you that if I could
reproduce their work I’d have a lot of customers more than willing to
take it off my hands.

My point is that yeah, sure there’s a “faultless” way to cut stones
but that’s a modern and, IMHO, arbitrary standard which has,
admittedly, been widely adopted. There’s no doubt that said stones
have their qualities and that’s great. If that works for you party
on! But I have to say that the contemporary habit of speaking as if
windowing is a violation of the 11th Commandment or something is a bit
much.

Personally I’ll buy stones that look good to my eyes and/or my
customers eyes whether they are “acceptable” by modern gemology
standards or not. I’m not selling them as “faultless” stones but the
customers aren’t paying the “faultless” prices either.

As ever, your mileage may vary.

Cheers,
Trevor F.
in The City of Light

Trevor,

We agree but possibly for different reasons. It has already been
pointed out that ‘windowing’ is one way to lighten a dark stone that
otherwise might just look like a lump of coal. One can sometimes
look right through a colored stone but still percieve the color. A
good cutter can also control the windowing to a certain amount,
selecting how much reflection/refraction can be lost without
completely loosing it! This is done by adjusting the pavilion main
angles so that the pavilion is deeper (deeping the color) or
shallower to decrease the depth of color. At some point, depending
on the unique critical angle of the stone being cut, more and more
light is lost and, while the stone looses brilliance and/or
scintallation, the color may be improved. Another factor is the
depth (length) of the break facets. Some scintallation can be
recovered by lengthening the breaks or color can be lightened by
shortening them.

Windowing in a diamond is a no-no but it can serve a purpose in
colored stones.

I used to make $ by purchasing cheap (but otherwise reasonably good
quality ) windowed stones and recutting them. They make perfect
preforms!

Also, I have purposely cut clear quartz below the critical angle to
achieve a prefect window and cut the surrounding stars and breaks at
their proper angles. The result is a stone with very nice
brillance/scintallation around the table but the table will show
whatever color is placed behind it. Nice conversation pieces.

Cheers from Don at The Charles Belle Studio in SOFL where simple
elegance IS fine jewelry! @coralnut2

    Personally I'll buy stones that look good to my eyes and/or my
customers eyes whether they are "acceptable" by modern gemology
standards or not. I'm not selling them as "faultless" stones but
the customers aren't paying the "faultless" prices either. As
ever, your mileage may vary. 

Trevor,

My opinion is that if you sell windowed stones after educating your
customer as to the difference, there is not a problem. However, if
you do not teach the difference, you are selling inferior quality for
no good reason. Price difference might make a difference to a
customer, however my experience is that all my customers who buy
stones from me, choose the well cut stones given the choice. If you
do not know what you are doing, windowed stones can cost the same as
well cut. If you make a bad buy, you gotta do something with them,
and pawning them off on the unsuspecting might be a choice. And I
warn my customers about people who sell windowed stones. Windowed
stones are only attractive until I teach my customers what well cut
stones look like compared to windowed stones. They don’t seem to be
desirable after that.

Mileage may vary, but pride of ownership apparently does not in my
experience.

Richard Hart,
Graduate Gemmologist in
Residence, 1977

Windowing is a technical consideration and I didn’t think of it as a
personal choice. It was just a technical comment. As in other fields
of endeavor it’s good to know the standards;

I wasn’t speaking of stones in general here, as you seem to be, but
faceted stones only.

I, in no way implied, but you seem to have inferred, that it was a
comment on the Judeo/Christian heritige re: “violation of the 11th
Commandment”.

I have bought stones that weren’t technically perfect because there
were other qualities that I admired.

These are my cappucino comments for this morning. I do admire your
choice of habitation.

Kevin Kelly

 Windowed stones are only attractive until I teach my customers
what well cut stones look like compared to windowed stones. 

I have been exploring this topic myself, of late. As a beginning
faceter, I am not great yet at producing well-cut stones, but I am
examining my collection of stones that I have available to set with
fresh eyes. What I have concluded so far is:

  1. Most stones are cut in variations of the brilliant cut, with some
    checkerboard or step cuts thrown in.

  2. More facets does not necessarily produce more brilliance or more
    attractiveness to my eye (though it does to make for more
    scintillation). I.e, more is not necessarily better.

  3. The only stones I have (facetted, that is) that are cut with any
    imagination or style were cut by amateurs.

4)–Here’s the rub-- there doesn’t really seem to be a consistent
relationship between how good a stone looks and what I paid for it.

I would say that rarity (or perceived value) seems to have more to
do with price than beauty. But I am not yet buying really high-end
stones, and that may skew the results of my very informal survey.
The most I have paid for a single stone at this point is probaby
$400. And I’m talking about colored stones, not diamonds.

I have a purple sapphire of about three carats that has an
unfortunate window in the bottom, but everywhere else in the stone,
it practically glows in the dark. If not for the window, I probably
couldn’t have bought it for $100/carat, MOL. And, at the time, I
didn’t see the window. An educated eye sees a different world. A
student of mine asked me yesterday if her channel-set diamond ring
could be enlarged by stretching. Of course, I told her no, but I
also handed her a loupe to look at her ring. She was astonished to
see that her ring was not channel set at all, but set with shared
prongs, down in a groove. Not upset, just quite surprised. But
she’ll look much more closely from now on, I think!

I guess I’m rambling here, so I’ll stop now.

–Noel

    3) The only stones I have (facetted, that is) that are cut
with any imagination or style were cut by amateurs. 

I also find this to be true, except in some extra fine, high-end
stones.

    4)--Here's the rub-- there doesn't really seem to be a
consistent relationship between how good a stone looks and what I
paid for it. I would say that rarity (or perceived value) seems to
have more to do with price than beauty. But I am not yet buying
really high-end stones, and that may skew the results of my very
informal survey. 

Your perception is similar to mine. And you’ll probably find that
the high-end stones you mentioned (presumably by high-end, you mean
color and clarity), were cut to more exacting standards by high-end
professional lapidaries. Commercial grades seem to be priced by
stone lots that are “matched” by similar color with varying cut
quality. Usually, the cut is matched by outline alone (round,
square, etc.) and proportions vary greatly. Occasionally, I’ve found
“matched cut” lots with table facets that are closely matched, but
the rest of the proportions vary widely. These commercial grades do
seem to be priced with little regard as to beauty. They simply look
very similar to the inexperienced.

    I have a purple sapphire of about three carats that has an
unfortunate window in the bottom, but everywhere else in the
stone, it practically glows in the dark. If not for the window, I
probably couldn't have bought it for $100/carat, MOL. And, at the
time, I didn't see the window. An educated eye sees a different
world. 

I’m curious to know if you plan to eventually re-cut this sapphire
yourself? I’m not at all a world-class faceter, and would be nervous
about it, myself. Isn’t continuing education a wonderful thing?

James in SoFl

   I'm curious to know if you plan to eventually re-cut this
sapphire yourself? I'm not at all a world-class faceter, and would
be nervous about it, myself. 

James,

No need to be nervous about recutting such a stone. If the original
cutter did any thing right at all, they probably did a proper
orientation for their original cut. That makes the stone a perfect
preform for recutting. Often when recutting such a stone, the loss
is actually quite minimal. I have a .56 ct natural ruby (absolutely
beautiful stone) what had been badly cut by the native cutter. It
was an oval and they had left a very bad fractured area in the culet
which also had a black inclusion in it. I recut the crown using the
original design but tightening up the facets and improving the
polish, then redid the pavillion in a slightly different design
cutting the fracture and inclusion away. In the end it came to
exactly .50 cts and tripled in value!

It would be an excellent project for a faceter wanting to expand
their horizons! In this case, a couple more degrees on the
pavillion mains would probably do the trick. The stone would become
slightly deeper and loose a bit of girth but the results would be
worth it.

Cheers from Don at The Charles Belle Studio in SOFL where simple
elegance IS fine jewelry! @coralnut2

 I'm curious to know if you plan to eventually re-cut this
sapphire yourself? I'm not at all a world-class faceter, and would
be nervous about it, myself. Isn't continuing education a wonderful
thing? 

I hadn’t considered it, though now I will. I cut some synthetic
sapphire, and with 50,000 grit diamond paste and a ceramic lap, it
polished up just fine. On the other hand, the window is pretty tiny–
just a little dark spot in the center of the stone. Now that you have
me thinking about it, I’ll have to look carefully at the stone to see
whether I can tell how it could be fixed. Trouble maker! Yes,
constant learning is food and drink, but a little knowledge is a
dangerous thing!

–Noel

Hi Orchid,

I have been bezel setting quite a few faceted stones lately, and I’m
having difficulty with getting them to sit perfectly level prior to
setting. It doesn’t seem to matter how evenly the seat is cut or how
perfectly the the bezel fits the stone, they always seem to want to
rock from one side to the other, as in, when i push down on one side
the stone pops up too far on the other side. eventually after a lot
of frustrating attempts i get the stone level in its setting and
start tightening the bezel and usually it ends up being a nicely
level set stone. Is there some trick to this or am i just not
cutting the seat properly? should my bezel be a bit tighter before i
put the stone in? i’ve got a nice round oregon sunstone i’m about to
set in 18k and the darn thing just won’t sit level in it’s new home.
i cut the seat with a round bur, is that perhaps the issue? should i
be using a 45 degree or other type bur?

Orchid is always full of great answers and advice, thanks for all
your help.

Douglas @ Eclipse Designs

Douglas- The burr that you use to seat the stone should always match
the angles of the stone. In this situation a ball burr is not
appropriate.

Have fun and make lots of jewelry.
Jo Haemer
timothywgreen.com

Douglas and all!

This is a long winded answer, trust me!.

I present this very same problem to my stone setting students. I
show them what could happen if they could have the same problem as
you. Here are my solutions to this dilemma!

On every oval-faceted stone there are two angles to deal with. The
end of the oval stone have a deeper angle to deal with. The side
angles have of a shallower angle. When I as a teacher/setter observe
these two delicate problems. I will not use a 45 degree bur, why? The
teeth of the bur are too shallow and too close together. I need a
more aggressive cutting toothed bur, such a High-Speed 90angle bur &
nothing less!

I will only then attempt to cut into the metal at the same angles as
the stone.

I will try to fit the stone into the bezel frame. I must have the
walls of the bezel at the same height as the table of that stone. The
difference is the metal will now be able to be pushed over the facets
of the stone in question. BUT before anything else is done. I will
make darn sure no little underneath fragments of the metal still
preventing the stone from sitting correctly. With my finger

pad allow the stone to move, if it doesn’t move then I will proceed
onward with the setting process. You gotta make darn sure no extra
shards of metal…anywhere!!!

But here is another short-cut for you. Use a little round bur, about
the same size as the thickness of the girdle of that stone. Clear any
extra metal in the corner of the bearing of the metal. I want 100%
ease of the stone in resting ‘against’ the inside of the bezel. I am
also allowing the bearing width and be the same as the stone…Now, no
way could you have any further problems*, I hope.:slight_smile:

Now here comes the tough part, which of the ends or sides do you
start hammering?

I will ask you to start the hammering ON THE SIDES FIRST, this is
like a ‘clamping device’. If you hit the oval-ends, the stone will
turn it’s axis, and get locked into place and you’re totally stuck!!!

…Gerry!

It’s no wonder that you’re frustrated. Setting a stone in a hole
prepared with only a round bur would be difficult, and also risks
stone fracture without a proper seat. After you gouge out the metal
with a round burr, then finish it with a stone setting bur (typically
45 degree). The straight sides help ensure that the seat is level. If
your pavilion is fatter than 45 degrees, you may need to use a hart
bur with the appropriate angle. But a hart bur makes it harder to
keep the seat level.

Good Luck!!
Jamie King

I use a 7mm Hart burr to cut the seats for the stones.

TTFN

Doug,

Here’s a quick and dirty solution: Remove the seat metal from the
long ends so that the gem is resting on the side seats primarily.Just
take care when you are setting the ends not to push too hard. When
you are setting ovals… mark the stone and the bezel so that you are
lining them up the same way every time when you cut your seat in case
the the belly is uneven. The underside of many colored gems are
notoriously uneven. There are other options too.

Jonathan