ABI's Platinum/Sterling Alloy

     Sorry Jim, I tend to lapse a little with ABI's product since
they promised to send me a sample to try over a year ago, then
never did send it. I understand that the definitions of these
metals have mutually exclusive differences when marking them, but I
can't see the problem in describing them on a card or sheet of
paper as I described. The FTC Guides concern themselves with full
disclosure when marking or stamping a jewelry article and I accept
that they are hazy and incomplete concerning quality marking. But
my main point is that the National Stamping Act requires full
disclosure in not only marking the article itself, but in any
accompanying description. The way I read it, the Act provides a way
to list all constituents of a jewelry article in much the same way
as packaged food items are required to list their ingredients.

Here is the section on Platinum from the FTC Guides in part (a) is
says “to mark or describe” The guides pertain to both marking and
marketing of the work. So a card or other descriptive literature is
regulated and held to the same standards as the stamping of the
work.

In the case of ABI’s sterling alloyed with platinum the question is
can you mention the platinum content because it contains less then
500 parts platinum as described in section 23.7.3. You can obviously
call it sterling but, can you list the platinum content. I do not
believe you can. The only way to get a real opinion on it is to write
the FTC and ask for one. I believe ABI should do that so that they
can advise their customers whether they can mark the work with
platinum percentage or even mention it at all.

  23.7 Misuse of the words "platinum," "iridium," "palladium,"
  "ruthenium," "rhodium," and "osmium." 

  (a) It is unfair or deceptive to use the words "platinum,"
  "iridium," "palladium," "ruthenium," "rhodium," and "osmium,"
  or any abbreviation to mark or describe all or part of an
  industry product if such marking or description misrepresents
  the product=92s true composition. The Platinum Group Metals
  (PGM) are Platinum, Iridium, Palladium, Ruthenium, Rhodium, and
  Osmium. 

  (b) The following are examples of markings or descriptions
  that may be misleading: 

  (1) Use of the word "Platinum" or any abbreviation, without
  qualification, to describe all or part of an industry product
  that is not composed throughout of 950 parts per thousand pure
  Platinum. 

  (2) Use of the word "Platinum" or any abbreviation accompanied
  by a number indicating the parts per thousand of pure Platinum
  contained in the product without mention of the number of parts
  per thousand of other PGM contained in the product, to
  describe all or part of an industry product that is not
  composed throughout of at least 850 parts per thousand pure
  platinum, for example,"600Plat." 

  (3) Use of the word "Platinum" or any abbreviation thereof, to
  mark or describe any product that is not composed throughout
  of at least 500 parts per thousand pure Platinum. 
        We in the US should adopt a similar system to England's.
It would cut out a lot of confusion. Still, the National Stamping
Act and the FTC Guides are all we have right now, and I stand by my
post in that arguing about it here won't be nearly as effective as
commenting on the proposed new FTC rule about marking "karated"
platinum. I realize that ABI's product isn't addressed in it, but
it won't all happen at once. The reason that the FTC is
entertaining comments on "karated" platinum is because the
manufacturers of it have bugged them silly about it. Until ABI does
something similar, it's product will never even enjoy serious
discussion. Judging from their apathetic attitude, that time is not
near. 

I find England’s rules worse than ours but to each his own. You are
right about the Need for ABI to petition the FTC

 The FTC Guides do not require the marking of metal, only that if
you do, you must be accurate and you must add your name or
hallmark. If one works with ABI's material, one need not mark it,
but may list it's contents and description on an accompanying
document. If anyone can prove otherwise (without phrases like
"appears to be" or "it seems to me"), I beg your input as I would
love to better understand the somewhat interpretable legalese of
the Guides and the Act. 

This is not the case. For “proof” just go to the Guides. If you
describe or imply it, the metal content it must be in accordance with
the guides as stated in section 23.0 Scope and application. Here is
section 23.0(c)

  (c) These guides apply to claims and representations about
  industry products included in labeling, advertising,
  promotional materials, and all other forms of marketing,
  whether asserted directly or by implication, through words,
  symbols, emblems, logos, illustrations, depictions, product
  brand names, or through any other means. 

While the Stamping Act itself is very difficult to read the Guides
are meant to be a clearer description of Congress intent. They don’t
always succeed but you do not need a law degree to read them.

Regards
Jim

    The alloy needs a new name that is defined by the producer
rather than the government. Call it "ABIUM" (maybe they could do 
better than that) If the material can be promoted to the public as
a premium material by a new word, what that word means can be
explained and publicized, but the word itself can be the quality
mark,  defined and licenced by ABI. Think how much more of the
alloy ABI would  sell if it were not for this problem. 

No matter how it is marketed it must conform to the FTC Guides and
that is the real issue. Untill ABI resolves with the FTC how to mark
and market the platinum content of their sterling alloy there is a
problem with using it.

Regards
Jim

I have considered using the plat sliver alloy, so I am interested in
what has been contributed to this thread. What I am wondering about
is a little further down the road from the original manufacture of
these items. I’ve seen the ads for Platfina silver jewelry, and
anticipate there will be alot more jewelry from the new silver
alloys, including Argentium Silver. If all of these alloys are marked
925 or sterling, how is the average bench person supposed to know
what is in it, or if special handling is required? Will regular
silver solders work on these things; in ring sizing for example, or
replacing a ring at the top of a pendant? This may be crucial, as in
the case of the argentium silver that crumbled when moved slightly
during soldering, or if too much pressure was applied with binding
wire. It’s not only the customer who buys the pieces, but the jeweler
whose professional expertise is on the line when said customer
requests some simple modification or an ordinary repair goes south.
The the jeweler has an interest in knowing the makeup of the product
as well.

Melissa Veres, Engraver
@M_Veres

I am some what puzzled by the need for special names for either
platinum sterling or germanium sterling. If they are really superior
to more traditional copper sterling alloys, these qualities should
turn up in the manufacturing and distributing processes as assets,
thus making their use a natual outgrowth of technology and a value
to the manufacturer. The idea of a special name seems to smell a
little fishy. The amount of platinum involved is hardly more than a
trace and considering the cost of labor in bringing sterling
products to market. Let’s watch what the large sterling
manufacturers such as Tiffany’s do.

Some years ago, I melted down a five ounce commemorative sterling
medal that I had bought in 1972. There was little or no copper. This
metal did not oxidize. There was no need for the manufacturer (a very
very large manufacturer) to tell anyone that it was anything other
than sterling. It was still 92.5% silver, which was all that
mattered. It was no one elses problem.

Bruce D. Holmgrain
Goldwerx
http://www.goldwerx.com
@Red_Rodder
JA Certified Master Benchjeweler, CAD/CAM Services

About the naming of the Platinum Sterling Alloy, which I have used
and found it an excellent silver alloy for certain applications:

Naming new products is a tricky thing, especially when one is
working in a legal context that is rapidly becoming an anachronism,
due to technical developments.

Jim Binnion points out that the words “Platinum” and “Sterling” have
specific legal meanings. A catchy market name is real helpful for a
new product and “3.5% Pt Silver” probably wouldn’t cut it.
Compounding the problem is that the name is already in use and
changing it would be confusing, though sooner would be better if
that is necessary. I’m sure we could all suggest some a new name.
(I’ll suggest Silver Plus Platinum)

Right now the best thing we can do is start the process to change
the laws regarding the naming of products and regulations of purity
and content. Issues of precious and base metal combinations, new
alloys containing precious metals and the use of electroplated and
other deposited surfaces on gold need to be addressed.

This will take some time and mediating between various points of
view will require some patience by all parties. Ultimately we will
have to keep in mind that we need to provide our customers with a
clear vocabulary for asking questions regarding metal content to they
can focus on questions of the aesthetics, beauty and meaning of a
particular work.

Phillip Baldwin

... What I am wondering about is a little further down the road
from the original manufacture of these items. 

Hello Melissa. That’s a good point you raise. In the case of
Argentium Sterling (AS) they’ve gone a fair ways down that road
already by developing and licensing the use of the “as” hallmark.
It’s the symbol you see at their site, ArgentiumSilver.com, and I
believe arrangements are being made with a US stamp maker for
production of these stamps to be used by licensed makers. I think it
will all be in place once the final licensing structure is announced.

... This may be crucial, as in the case of the argentium silver
that crumbled when moved slightly during soldering .... 

Indeed if that were true you’d be right to be concerned but I think
this is not an accurate representation of the current AS alloys
during soldering. I’ve been told that this was characteristic of a
very early version of the alloy by a discontinued manufacturer but
that’s years gone by now (last produced 4 years ago I believe).

I can assure you that this does not happen with today’s AS. I move,
bind, push and generally mess about with AS during soldering just as
I would with regular sterling ASSUMING you’re not using Hard grade
regular silver solder. That grade of solder takes you too close to
the melt point of AS and the metal is indeed quite soft at that temp.
Frankly that’s too hot for AS.

As has been mentioned many times over the course of our discussions
AS does not show heat the same way regular sterling does so it is
highly advisable to work in reduced light conditions in order to see
better the heat temperatures you are working at. If, under those
reduced light conditions, the AS is dull red then there will be no
problems binding it, moving it, etc during soldering. If it is bright
orange or pink or hotter then you are already overheating it and it
may well be a bit delicate at that point.

That said, at no time have I ever seen a piece of the modern alloy
crumble or shatter under heat no matter what I did to it. That is
old, and AFAIK no longer applicable, news.

Cheers,
Trevor F.
in The City of Light

In the case of ABI's  sterling alloyed with platinum the question is
can you mention the platinum content because it contains less then
500 parts platinum as described in section 23.7.3. You can obviously
call it sterling but, can you list the platinum content. I do not
believe you can. The only way to get a real opinion on it is to write
the FTC and ask for one. I believe ABI should do that so that they
can advise their customers whether they can mark the work with
platinum percentage or even mention it at all.
      23.7 Misuse of the words "platinum," "iridium," "palladium,"
      "ruthenium," "rhodium," and "osmium."
      (a) It is unfair or deceptive to use the words "platinum,"
      "iridium," "palladium," "ruthenium," "rhodium," and "osmium,"
      or any abbreviation to mark or describe all or part of an
      industry product if such marking or description misrepresents
      the product's true composition.

It’s at this point that I see where the Guides allow the
description. The way I read it, if you mark the piece as sterling
and provide a card with the contents, it does not misrepresent the
true composition of the product.

The other subsections deal with other things that “may be
misleading.” Again, the way I read the Guides is that the correct
marking with a description is not at all misleading and well within
the requirements of the Guides. Perhaps I’m reading the Guides
through rose-colored glasses, but I have trouble believing that they
prevent anyone from fully describing the entire composition of a
metal product.

Then again, I can see some jewelry manufacturers abusing the product
in a similar way as some types of gold had been before the Guides
addressed that issue, i.e. “GOLD filled” or GOLD plated. Yes, I can
easily see store signs with PLATINUM in huge letters and “silver” in
itty- bitty, teeny-tiny letters you can barely see without
magnification. But that…well, that would be misleading, and I’m
not talking about doing that. As far as I can tell, describing the
product without being misleading is perfectly acceptable by the
Guides.

James S. Duncan, G.G.
James in SoFl

    No matter how it is marketed it must conform to the FTC Guides
and that is the real issue. Untill ABI resolves with the FTC how to
mark and market the platinum content of their sterling alloy there
is a problem with using it. 

What if ABI advocated stamping their alloy .925 (which is quite
proper) and Abium (or whatever trade name they come up with). And
then, what if they got on the stick and spent some money on consumer
and trade advertising to explain, simply:

“Abium is the trade name for sterling silver alloyed with platinum
(and whatever). Unlike white gold (and/or copper-alloyed sterling
silver), it has the advantages of … yada, yada.”

That’s what they should do, in my opinion, if they want to get
this alloy off the ground. And I can’t see how the FTC could have a
problem with this considering that the pieces would not be stamped as
platinum and the ad copy would be a factual explanation of
components, plus whatever hype ABI wants.

Beth

James,

It is obvious that we have different interpretations of the Guides.
I think that section

  27.3 (3) Use of the word "Platinum" or any abbreviation
  thereof, to mark or describe any product that is not composed
  throughout of at least 500 parts per thousand pure Platinum. 

Says that you cannot use the word Platinum but I am not the FTC or a
lawyer trained in Federal law so my opinion is worth what you paid
for it :slight_smile:

It is because of this that I feel it is ABI’s responsibility to
contact the FTC and clarify the proper marking and description of
their alloy. Is it just “sterling” or “925” or is it permissible to
mark it with its platinum content? Ag925 Pt 35 or whatever.

Jim

Right on Melissa,

Much as I might like the new alloys, an identifying mark for future
reference is important. For my own purposes of identification, I
can add a symbol to the traditional sterling mark, that symbol would
mean nothing to anyone else should future repairs become necessary.

This is rather like the problem with rhodium-plated sterling.
Unless you’re aware and checking for the plating, you can find
yourself in deep doo-doo when you try to solder!

At least the Argentium sterling people have developed a symbol…
however, they need to do two things:

  1. start promotional marketing of the symbol and its meaning
    (strong, tarnish-resistant sterling alloy) to the general public so
    that they will look for and understand the symbol - and -

  2. provide a FREE symbol stamp to purchasers of Argentium sheet and
    wire, with the caveat that all pieces made from Argentium be stamped
    with the symbol, further exposing the public to the symbol.

Those two actions would encourage the public to buy Argentium items;
in turn encouraging jewelry makers to use Argentium in their jewelry
and to stamp it so that people can identify it as Argentium and want
to buy it; etc. (A very nice cycle to initiate if you want to sell
Argentium.)

This is a pretty simple concept, but it seems like a logical thing
to do, and it would help in “branding” of the alloy. Marketers are
big on “branding” to the public!

Judy in Kansas

It seems like what’s needed here is a test case. It defies common
sense for someone to be prosecuted for being deceptive or misleading
if all they’re doing is telling their customer exactly what’s in
their product. As was pointed out, omitting this could
cause problems with repair down the line. I really can’t see a jury
convicting someone under those circumstances; that’s the great merit
of the jury system. If I were ABI, and couldn’t get anywhere by
arguing with the FTC, I’d arrange to pick up the legal expenses for
someone willing to test this absurd regulation in court.

Andrew Werby
www.unitedartworks.com

It is obvious that we have different interpretations of the Guides.
I  think that section
      27.3 (3) Use of the word "Platinum" or any abbreviation
      thereof, to mark or describe any product that is not composed
      throughout of at least 500 parts per thousand pure Platinum.
Says that you cannot use the word Platinum but I am not the FTC or a
lawyer trained in Federal law so my opinion is worth what you paid
for it :-)

Jim, your opinion is worth far more than that and we all know it. I
do thank you for it every time I read one of your posts, even if I
don’t waste bandwidth by sending a note every time. But back to the
thread…

My interpretation relies more on section 27.3 (a) (b) which is
stated just before the paragraph you mention. It reads:

  (b) The following are examples of markings or descriptions that
  may be misleading: 

The subparagraph you mention is just under there, and in it, the FTC
cautions that marking or describing any product that is not composed
throughout of at least 500 ppt pure platinum may be misleading

We all seem to agree that ABI’s material may be stamped “.925” but
the question is about describing its’ platinum content. I still
don’t believe that including a card or piece of paper describing the
metal content (including how much platinum is in it) is in any way
misleading, nor does it fall out of line with what the Guides state.
Moreover, the section you mention does not state you cannot use the
word platinum, only that marking or describing a piece that is not
at least 500ppt throughout “may be misleading.” Marking it “.925”
and describing the rest of the alloyed content isn’t misleading and
should be allowed.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not an advocate of ABI, nor am I
particularly enamored of their alloy. I just think there is a little
more latitude in the Guides on this matter than many believe. I’m
sure the Platinum Guild would disagree, but they have a lot at stake
whereas these new alloys could bring the whitest, and in my own very
humble opinion, the loveliest white metal to the fore once again.
For now, I’ll avoid a lot of the confusion and keep playing around
with Argentium Silver.

James S. Duncan, G.G.
James in SoFl

If I were ABI, and couldn't get anywhere by arguing with the FTC,
I'd arrange to pick up the legal expenses for someone willing to
test this absurd regulation in court.

Does anyone remember reading about the Scope’s Trial? I think that
was a test case that was not supposed to be lost either.

Robin C. McGee
Rcmcgee47@comcast.net

   Naming new products is a tricky thing, especially when one is
working in a legal context that is rapidly becoming an
anachronism, due to technical developments. 

Since they sell somethiing called “diamondique”(sp?) on the tv
shopping shows, why don’t we call the platinum/sterling alloy…
platinumique?

I have an idea- we have a 950 platinum made with silver and other
elements. What if I call it Silver enhanced platinum? Just kidding
Marc, Gary and Chuck!

Its just an easier to cast platinum.

Daniel Ballard
www.pmwest.us
800-999-7528